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  1. #1
    PDA Man
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    Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!

    Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied recent
    merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move would
    create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.

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  2. #2
    Bill Roland
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    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    merger/aquisition.


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    > Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    > news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    > year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    > merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    > Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied

    recent
    > merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    > are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move

    would
    > create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
    >
    > SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
    >

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  3. #3
    Bill Roland
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    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    merger/aquisition.


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    > Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    > news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    > year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    > merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    > Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied

    recent
    > merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    > are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move

    would
    > create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
    >
    > SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
    >

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    Roopinder Randhawa
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    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    National companies
    Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    degrading service levels.
    But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    combined.


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    > Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    > news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    > year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    > merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    > Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied

    recent
    > merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    > are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move

    would
    > create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
    >
    > SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
    >

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  5. #5
    Roopinder Randhawa
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    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    National companies
    Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    degrading service levels.
    But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    combined.


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Is it TMOBILE? Is it ATTWS? This is gonna be FUN!!
    >
    > Cingular Wireless has gotten approval from its parent companies SBC
    > Communications and BellSouth to acquire another leading U.S. carrier. The
    > news means Cingular could acquire one of its rivals by as early as next
    > year. It has also sparked the latest round of "guess which carriers will
    > merge". Insiders are betting that Cingular will make a bid for either AT&T
    > Wireless or T-Mobile. T-Mobile's parent, Deutsche Telekom, has denied

    recent
    > merger rumors, saying it is dedicated to its U.S. operation. Most insiders
    > are currently betting on a Cingular/AT&T Wireless merger. Such a move

    would
    > create a North American GSM carrier with more than 40 million subscribers.
    >
    > SOURCE : Businessweek Online (Subscription
    >

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  6. #6
    Steven M. Scharf
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    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004


    "Bill Roland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    > merger/aquisition.


    The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
    least two competitors.

    If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
    out of its misery,
    if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
    number portability.





  7. #7
    Steven M. Scharf
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004


    "Bill Roland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    > merger/aquisition.


    The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
    least two competitors.

    If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
    out of its misery,
    if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
    number portability.





  8. #8
    Aboutdakota
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004



    Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
    > Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    > National companies
    > Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    > degrading service levels.
    > But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    > combined.


    I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
    sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
    Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
    have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
    a CDMA phone from Verizon.

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  9. #9
    Aboutdakota
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004



    Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
    > Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    > National companies
    > Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    > degrading service levels.
    > But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    > combined.


    I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
    sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
    Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
    have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
    a CDMA phone from Verizon.

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  10. #10
    Aboutdakota
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004



    Steven M. Scharf wrote:
    > "Bill Roland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    >>merger/aquisition.

    >
    >
    > The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
    > least two competitors.
    >
    > If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
    > out of its misery,
    > if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
    > number portability.


    Actually, the Verizon/Sprint would be more complicated than one would
    think. Verizon Communications would want to remain in control, but in
    the event of a Verizon Wireless/Sprint PCS merger, if Vodafone acquired
    Sprint PCS to contribute to the venture, it would now have control of
    Verizon Wireless. If that happened, it would probably become Vodafone,
    and a switch to from CDMA2000 1x EV-DO to W-CDMA would probably happen.
    Plus, I think a huge overlay of GSM would happen.

    Now, for a Cingular/ATTWS merger, it might not be as complicated. There
    doesn't seem to be the tensions between SBC and BellSouth that there are
    between Verizon Communications and Vodafone. I'm not sure how Cingular
    would divvy up assets, whether between SBC and BellSouth, or whether
    AT&T would come as a third player in the Cingular venture...

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  11. #11
    Aboutdakota
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004



    Steven M. Scharf wrote:
    > "Bill Roland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>I just can't see the Fed's allowing an AT&T Wireless/Cingular
    >>merger/aquisition.

    >
    >
    > The feds will do whatever big business wants, as long as there are still at
    > least two competitors.
    >
    > If Cingular acquired AT&T it would clear the way for Verizon to put Sprint
    > out of its misery,
    > if it chose to. AT&T and Sprint are predicted to be the biggest losers from
    > number portability.


    Actually, the Verizon/Sprint would be more complicated than one would
    think. Verizon Communications would want to remain in control, but in
    the event of a Verizon Wireless/Sprint PCS merger, if Vodafone acquired
    Sprint PCS to contribute to the venture, it would now have control of
    Verizon Wireless. If that happened, it would probably become Vodafone,
    and a switch to from CDMA2000 1x EV-DO to W-CDMA would probably happen.
    Plus, I think a huge overlay of GSM would happen.

    Now, for a Cingular/ATTWS merger, it might not be as complicated. There
    doesn't seem to be the tensions between SBC and BellSouth that there are
    between Verizon Communications and Vodafone. I'm not sure how Cingular
    would divvy up assets, whether between SBC and BellSouth, or whether
    AT&T would come as a third player in the Cingular venture...

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  12. #12
    Terry Knab
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    Re: NEWS: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004


    > I live in a Western Wireless market, and I have heard rumours that
    > Cingular was interested in Western Wireless, but that Verizon Wireless
    > took legal action against it because of spectrum. Western Wireless
    > would make a good addition to any of the larger carriers.
    >
    > The feds might allow an AT&T Wireless / Cingular merger. With rumours
    > that AT&T wants to change its name, and AT&T degrading services, it just
    > might be possible. Plus, AT&T operates in many of the same markets that


    Actually, WW and Cingular would be a good marriage. There's no problem with
    bandwith because WW and Cingular do NOT compete in most markets. There are
    13 states in which Cingular has no coverage at all. WW was the company who
    started VoiceStream (yes, they started it)

    In those 13 states, WW has a HUGE footprint and could easily be a great
    target for Cingular (although the population is primarily rural), but would
    give them access to their own network and not paying WW for roaming (And WW
    is running 3 standards now, that's gotta eat a lot of unused bandwidth)






  13. #13
    Terry Knab
    Guest

    Re: NEWS: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004


    > I live in a Western Wireless market, and I have heard rumours that
    > Cingular was interested in Western Wireless, but that Verizon Wireless
    > took legal action against it because of spectrum. Western Wireless
    > would make a good addition to any of the larger carriers.
    >
    > The feds might allow an AT&T Wireless / Cingular merger. With rumours
    > that AT&T wants to change its name, and AT&T degrading services, it just
    > might be possible. Plus, AT&T operates in many of the same markets that


    Actually, WW and Cingular would be a good marriage. There's no problem with
    bandwith because WW and Cingular do NOT compete in most markets. There are
    13 states in which Cingular has no coverage at all. WW was the company who
    started VoiceStream (yes, they started it)

    In those 13 states, WW has a HUGE footprint and could easily be a great
    target for Cingular (although the population is primarily rural), but would
    give them access to their own network and not paying WW for roaming (And WW
    is running 3 standards now, that's gotta eat a lot of unused bandwidth)






  14. #14
    Richard Ness
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    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    You line in an area that is an exception....

    In most areas of the country it is the EXACT opposite.
    Example: out west Cingular SUCKS really badly.
    VZW kicks their ass, hands down. NO contest.


    "Aboutdakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
    > > Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    > > National companies
    > > Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    > > degrading service levels.
    > > But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    > > combined.

    >
    > I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
    > sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
    > Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
    > have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
    > a CDMA phone from Verizon.
    >
    > AD
    >






  15. #15
    Richard Ness
    Guest

    Re: Cingular Gets Approval for Acquisition Deal as Soon As 2004

    You line in an area that is an exception....

    In most areas of the country it is the EXACT opposite.
    Example: out west Cingular SUCKS really badly.
    VZW kicks their ass, hands down. NO contest.


    "Aboutdakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > Roopinder Randhawa wrote:
    > > Most possibly it wil be AT&T as TDMA and GSM are only offered by both these
    > > National companies
    > > Moreover T-Mobile is well funded gtom otherplaces and AT&T is laying off and
    > > degrading service levels.
    > > But Cingular sucks and so does AT&T so I see a bigger suck with them
    > > combined.

    >
    > I've had great luck with Cingular. If you want to see service that
    > sucks, visit the native network of Verizon Wireless in North and South
    > Dakota. Or visit the network of Western Wireless. Or Sprint PCS. I
    > have a GAIT phone from Cingular, and it gets service in more places than
    > a CDMA phone from Verizon.
    >
    > AD
    >






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