Closing account early - question on 'penalty fees'

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:21:40 GMT, "SueNY" <[email protected]> wrote:

>May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
>contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why they
>provided service, remember?

Because $200 per phone is out of line and I'm not going to pay it. Period. I
needed the service at the time.

>It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
>pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.

Cry me a river.

Do you truly believe that by ending my service early and giving Nextel $200,
that makes a difference? That's BS fee because they want my monthly money and
are trying to get it wether or not I keep service.


>
>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from me.
>Good
>> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>>
>> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:31:47 GMT, "SueNY" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > It's $200 per phone and they will not negotiate. Nextel is very firm
>about
>> >that and will not hesitate to go after you if you refuse to pay. If you
>> >somehow think you don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee *****ed out
>in
>> >the contract you signed you're better off waiting the 6 months til your
>> >contract expires.
>> >
>> >SueNY
>> >
>> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> I have 5 phones on my business account and I am closing up shop soon.
>I
>> >still
>> >> have 6 months or so left since my last changes, so I'm sure they'll hit
>me
>> >> with a penalty fee.
>> >>
>> >> Do you know if it's per phone or account? Also, I assume there is some
>> >> flexibility or negotiating that can be done since the end result is I
>> >either
>> >> pay a fee that is "acceptable", or I walk away and pay them nothing and
>> >they
>> >> lose.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone had similar dealings?
>> >
>>
>

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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:19:27 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from me.
>Good
>> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>>
>> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
>
>Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course, that's
>after you have to deal with third party collections.

Not my credit report. A soon to be defunct FID#. 3rd party collections? My
home phone and doorbell will be nice and quiet. No doubt about it.

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:19:27 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from me.
>Good
>> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>>
>> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
>
>Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course, that's
>after you have to deal with third party collections.

Not my credit report. A soon to be defunct FID#. 3rd party collections? My
home phone and doorbell will be nice and quiet. No doubt about it.

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:21:40 GMT, "SueNY" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
> >contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why
they
> >provided service, remember?
>
> Because $200 per phone is out of line and I'm not going to pay it.
Period. I
> needed the service at the time.
>
> >It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
> >pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
>
> Cry me a river.
>
> Do you truly believe that by ending my service early and giving Nextel
$200,
> that makes a difference? That's BS fee because they want my monthly money
and
> are trying to get it wether or not I keep service.
>
>

Well, I can see why you're going out of business- you probably screwed your
customers just like this?

"Contract? What contract? I just signed it because I needed the money at
the time/"

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:21:40 GMT, "SueNY" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
> >contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why
they
> >provided service, remember?
>
> Because $200 per phone is out of line and I'm not going to pay it.
Period. I
> needed the service at the time.
>
> >It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
> >pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
>
> Cry me a river.
>
> Do you truly believe that by ending my service early and giving Nextel
$200,
> that makes a difference? That's BS fee because they want my monthly money
and
> are trying to get it wether or not I keep service.
>
>

Well, I can see why you're going out of business- you probably screwed your
customers just like this?

"Contract? What contract? I just signed it because I needed the money at
the time/"

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:19:27 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from
me.
> >Good
> >> luck collecting. It won't happen.
> >>
> >> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
> >
> >Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course,
that's
> >after you have to deal with third party collections.
>
> Not my credit report. A soon to be defunct FID#. 3rd party collections?
My
> home phone and doorbell will be nice and quiet. No doubt about it.

Go ahead and think that- your name and address are on file along with your
'soon to be defunct' FID#.

Loser.

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:19:27 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from
me.
> >Good
> >> luck collecting. It won't happen.
> >>
> >> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
> >
> >Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course,
that's
> >after you have to deal with third party collections.
>
> Not my credit report. A soon to be defunct FID#. 3rd party collections?
My
> home phone and doorbell will be nice and quiet. No doubt about it.

Go ahead and think that- your name and address are on file along with your
'soon to be defunct' FID#.

Loser.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:21:03 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:21:40 GMT, "SueNY" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
>> >contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why
>they
>> >provided service, remember?
>>
>> Because $200 per phone is out of line and I'm not going to pay it.
>Period. I
>> needed the service at the time.
>>
>> >It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
>> >pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
>>
>> Cry me a river.
>>
>> Do you truly believe that by ending my service early and giving Nextel
>$200,
>> that makes a difference? That's BS fee because they want my monthly money
>and
>> are trying to get it wether or not I keep service.
>>
>>
>
>Well, I can see why you're going out of business- you probably screwed your
>customers just like this?

Nope. Just not worth it anymore. Things are drying up. I suppose I'm the
only one being affected by the current economy?


>"Contract? What contract? I just signed it because I needed the money at
>the time/"

No, I signed it because I needed the phones at the time.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:21:03 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:21:40 GMT, "SueNY" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
>> >contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why
>they
>> >provided service, remember?
>>
>> Because $200 per phone is out of line and I'm not going to pay it.
>Period. I
>> needed the service at the time.
>>
>> >It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
>> >pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
>>
>> Cry me a river.
>>
>> Do you truly believe that by ending my service early and giving Nextel
>$200,
>> that makes a difference? That's BS fee because they want my monthly money
>and
>> are trying to get it wether or not I keep service.
>>
>>
>
>Well, I can see why you're going out of business- you probably screwed your
>customers just like this?

Nope. Just not worth it anymore. Things are drying up. I suppose I'm the
only one being affected by the current economy?


>"Contract? What contract? I just signed it because I needed the money at
>the time/"

No, I signed it because I needed the phones at the time.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:22:39 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:19:27 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from
>me.
>> >Good
>> >> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
>> >
>> >Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course,
>that's
>> >after you have to deal with third party collections.
>>
>> Not my credit report. A soon to be defunct FID#. 3rd party collections?
>My
>> home phone and doorbell will be nice and quiet. No doubt about it.
>
>Go ahead and think that- your name and address are on file along with your
>'soon to be defunct' FID#.

I see you've never had one. My HOME address and HOME phone are NOT associated
with it in any way. Nor is my SS#. Do you even understand the purpose behind
one and the protections it affords ?

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:22:39 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:19:27 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from
>me.
>> >Good
>> >> luck collecting. It won't happen.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
>> >
>> >Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course,
>that's
>> >after you have to deal with third party collections.
>>
>> Not my credit report. A soon to be defunct FID#. 3rd party collections?
>My
>> home phone and doorbell will be nice and quiet. No doubt about it.
>
>Go ahead and think that- your name and address are on file along with your
>'soon to be defunct' FID#.

I see you've never had one. My HOME address and HOME phone are NOT associated
with it in any way. Nor is my SS#. Do you even understand the purpose behind
one and the protections it affords ?

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:22:39 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:19:27 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[email protected]...
> >> >> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from
> >me.
> >> >Good
> >> >> luck collecting. It won't happen.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
> >> >
> >> >Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course,
> >that's
> >> >after you have to deal with third party collections.
> >>
> >> Not my credit report. A soon to be defunct FID#. 3rd party
collections?
> >My
> >> home phone and doorbell will be nice and quiet. No doubt about it.
> >
> >Go ahead and think that- your name and address are on file along with
your
> >'soon to be defunct' FID#.
>
> I see you've never had one. My HOME address and HOME phone are NOT
associated
> with it in any way. Nor is my SS#. Do you even understand the purpose
behind
> one and the protections it affords ?
>

Yep- had one. It affords no protection from creditors by itself- it is
assigned strictly for tax purposes. Continue to be a clueless moron and
keep telling yourself that they won't find you. And here's a little tip-
your name is on it, and probably in your local phone book, too.

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:22:39 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:19:27 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[email protected]...
> >> >> If that's the case, and they refuse to negotiate, they get zero from
> >me.
> >> >Good
> >> >> luck collecting. It won't happen.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sure I can work a deal with them when they hear my terms.
> >> >
> >> >Have fun- it will look real nice on your credit report. Of course,
> >that's
> >> >after you have to deal with third party collections.
> >>
> >> Not my credit report. A soon to be defunct FID#. 3rd party
collections?
> >My
> >> home phone and doorbell will be nice and quiet. No doubt about it.
> >
> >Go ahead and think that- your name and address are on file along with
your
> >'soon to be defunct' FID#.
>
> I see you've never had one. My HOME address and HOME phone are NOT
associated
> with it in any way. Nor is my SS#. Do you even understand the purpose
behind
> one and the protections it affords ?
>

Yep- had one. It affords no protection from creditors by itself- it is
assigned strictly for tax purposes. Continue to be a clueless moron and
keep telling yourself that they won't find you. And here's a little tip-
your name is on it, and probably in your local phone book, too.

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:21:03 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:21:40 GMT, "SueNY" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>
> >> >May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
> >> >contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why
> >they
> >> >provided service, remember?
> >>
> >> Because $200 per phone is out of line and I'm not going to pay it.
> >Period. I
> >> needed the service at the time.
> >>
> >> >It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
> >> >pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
> >>
> >> Cry me a river.
> >>
> >> Do you truly believe that by ending my service early and giving Nextel
> >$200,
> >> that makes a difference? That's BS fee because they want my monthly
money
> >and
> >> are trying to get it wether or not I keep service.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, I can see why you're going out of business- you probably screwed
your
> >customers just like this?
>
> Nope. Just not worth it anymore. Things are drying up. I suppose I'm
the
> only one being affected by the current economy?

The current 'recovering' economy? Yep- its affecting me. And when it was
totally in the crapper, I still found a way to pay off my financial
obligations. I didn't run and hide behind a piece of paper like some cocky
and frightened adolescent. You, on the other hand, are not man enough to
fulfill your obligations- you would be the cocky and frightened adolescent I
just referred to.

>
>
> >"Contract? What contract? I just signed it because I needed the money at
> >the time/"
>
> No, I signed it because I needed the phones at the time.

That wasn't what I was talking about- that is probably the line you started
giving your customers. Good businesses and RESPONSIBLE business owners
don't treat anyone like you're threatening to treat Nextel. And the fact
that you are talking about walking away from your financial obligations in
this case is probably indicative of the way you treated your customers.

"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:21:03 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:21:40 GMT, "SueNY" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >>
> >> >May I ask why you think you aren't obligated to honor the terms of the
> >> >contract you signed with Nextel? You agreed to THEIR terms, thats why
> >they
> >> >provided service, remember?
> >>
> >> Because $200 per phone is out of line and I'm not going to pay it.
> >Period. I
> >> needed the service at the time.
> >>
> >> >It's jerks like you that think you don't have to
> >> >pay your bills that drive up the cost of service for the rest of us.
> >>
> >> Cry me a river.
> >>
> >> Do you truly believe that by ending my service early and giving Nextel
> >$200,
> >> that makes a difference? That's BS fee because they want my monthly
money
> >and
> >> are trying to get it wether or not I keep service.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, I can see why you're going out of business- you probably screwed
your
> >customers just like this?
>
> Nope. Just not worth it anymore. Things are drying up. I suppose I'm
the
> only one being affected by the current economy?

The current 'recovering' economy? Yep- its affecting me. And when it was
totally in the crapper, I still found a way to pay off my financial
obligations. I didn't run and hide behind a piece of paper like some cocky
and frightened adolescent. You, on the other hand, are not man enough to
fulfill your obligations- you would be the cocky and frightened adolescent I
just referred to.

>
>
> >"Contract? What contract? I just signed it because I needed the money at
> >the time/"
>
> No, I signed it because I needed the phones at the time.

That wasn't what I was talking about- that is probably the line you started
giving your customers. Good businesses and RESPONSIBLE business owners
don't treat anyone like you're threatening to treat Nextel. And the fact
that you are talking about walking away from your financial obligations in
this case is probably indicative of the way you treated your customers.