NEXTEL vs Verizon PTT

Ok, all I saw was it was a personal webpage. I suppose the TechTV
lawyers will call him if they find him.....



On 26 Nov 2003 19:22:54 -0800, [email protected] (MarkF) wrote:

>Here is the url for TechTV. It is interesting to read that:
>"Sprint PCS has also just launched its new service, but it declined to
>participate in our comparison" as stated in the url below.
>
>http://www.techtv.com/freshgear/prod...577091,00.html
>
>So I guess they figured that if their network/PTT performance didn't
>live up to the other 2 then they would be dead last in the comparison.
>
>As a follow up to Larry's question, no Larry it's not my site.
>Someone on HowardForums posted the link. I don't know if they
>recorded it and is hosting it, but it's not me.
>
>73's
>Mark

Larry W4CSC

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> Sprint is 100% 1900MHz PCS
> Using Qualcom's CDMA digital transmission protocol.
> 1 frequency (band), 1 protocol CDMA

I thought Sprint ran on two frequencies.....Hmmmm.....I guess I was
wrong--Sprint runs under 100% 1900MHz PCS......

> Sprint is 100% 1900MHz PCS
> Using Qualcom's CDMA digital transmission protocol.
> 1 frequency (band), 1 protocol CDMA

I thought Sprint ran on two frequencies.....Hmmmm.....I guess I was
wrong--Sprint runs under 100% 1900MHz PCS......

Which proves that you have to test out the service before even placing
it in the market. IMO Verizon's PTT might be a failed product due to
the rush nature of the service....

Steven J Sobol wrote:

> In alt.cellular.verizon John Eckart <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the informative link, MarkF. That was a very interesting video clip, which should shut some people up. I say "some" because some people are too dumb to keep their mouths shut.
>>
>>"MarkF" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Tech TV does the test and can be seen here:
>>>
>>>http://members.cox.net/cecole/PTT.wmv
>>>
>>>Take a look and you judge the performance difference.
>
>
> At the end of the clip, it says they also tried SPCS and SPCS is as fast as
> Nextel.
>
> Sounds like Verizon's rush to release PTT hurt them.
>

Which proves that you have to test out the service before even placing
it in the market. IMO Verizon's PTT might be a failed product due to
the rush nature of the service....

Steven J Sobol wrote:

> In alt.cellular.verizon John Eckart <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the informative link, MarkF. That was a very interesting video clip, which should shut some people up. I say "some" because some people are too dumb to keep their mouths shut.
>>
>>"MarkF" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Tech TV does the test and can be seen here:
>>>
>>>http://members.cox.net/cecole/PTT.wmv
>>>
>>>Take a look and you judge the performance difference.
>
>
> At the end of the clip, it says they also tried SPCS and SPCS is as fast as
> Nextel.
>
> Sounds like Verizon's rush to release PTT hurt them.
>

> Sprint and Verizon use *the same* protocol. CDMA (for the PTT services,
> CDMA 1xRTT). Verizon uses 800 in most markets, 1900MHz in a few. SPCS is
> all 1900MHz. But it's all CDMA. You can't use PTT on either Sprint or Verizon
> if your phone is using an analog signal, so that's irrelevant (and on Sprint,
> if you're analog, you're roaming and probably not able to use PTT anyhow).

You're kidding. I thought that PCS and CDMA are different protocols,
different transmission methods, algorithms, and cell phone schematics.
LG's Cell Phone Website dictates that their phones for use with
Verizon's network says "For use with Verizon Wireless 800MHz AMPS,
800MHz CDMA, and 1900MHz PCS networks".

So both PCS and CDMA use the same transmission methods, algorithms, and
Cell Phone Schematics? Or is it because Verizon's phones and Sprint's
phones uses different cellular telephone schematics?

> Sprint and Verizon use *the same* protocol. CDMA (for the PTT services,
> CDMA 1xRTT). Verizon uses 800 in most markets, 1900MHz in a few. SPCS is
> all 1900MHz. But it's all CDMA. You can't use PTT on either Sprint or Verizon
> if your phone is using an analog signal, so that's irrelevant (and on Sprint,
> if you're analog, you're roaming and probably not able to use PTT anyhow).

You're kidding. I thought that PCS and CDMA are different protocols,
different transmission methods, algorithms, and cell phone schematics.
LG's Cell Phone Website dictates that their phones for use with
Verizon's network says "For use with Verizon Wireless 800MHz AMPS,
800MHz CDMA, and 1900MHz PCS networks".

So both PCS and CDMA use the same transmission methods, algorithms, and
Cell Phone Schematics? Or is it because Verizon's phones and Sprint's
phones uses different cellular telephone schematics?

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:34:37 GMT, Mark Kim <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Sprint and Verizon use *the same* protocol. CDMA (for the PTT services,
>> CDMA 1xRTT). Verizon uses 800 in most markets, 1900MHz in a few. SPCS is
>> all 1900MHz. But it's all CDMA. You can't use PTT on either Sprint or Verizon
>> if your phone is using an analog signal, so that's irrelevant (and on Sprint,
>> if you're analog, you're roaming and probably not able to use PTT anyhow).
>
>You're kidding. I thought that PCS and CDMA are different protocols,
>different transmission methods, algorithms, and cell phone schematics.
>LG's Cell Phone Website dictates that their phones for use with
>Verizon's network says "For use with Verizon Wireless 800MHz AMPS,
>800MHz CDMA, and 1900MHz PCS networks".
>
>So both PCS and CDMA use the same transmission methods, algorithms, and
>Cell Phone Schematics? Or is it because Verizon's phones and Sprint's
>phones uses different cellular telephone schematics?

PCS means 1900 MHz - just the frequency range. It implies nothing
about the modulation method, etc.

GSM is also offered in the PCS band.

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:34:37 GMT, Mark Kim <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Sprint and Verizon use *the same* protocol. CDMA (for the PTT services,
>> CDMA 1xRTT). Verizon uses 800 in most markets, 1900MHz in a few. SPCS is
>> all 1900MHz. But it's all CDMA. You can't use PTT on either Sprint or Verizon
>> if your phone is using an analog signal, so that's irrelevant (and on Sprint,
>> if you're analog, you're roaming and probably not able to use PTT anyhow).
>
>You're kidding. I thought that PCS and CDMA are different protocols,
>different transmission methods, algorithms, and cell phone schematics.
>LG's Cell Phone Website dictates that their phones for use with
>Verizon's network says "For use with Verizon Wireless 800MHz AMPS,
>800MHz CDMA, and 1900MHz PCS networks".
>
>So both PCS and CDMA use the same transmission methods, algorithms, and
>Cell Phone Schematics? Or is it because Verizon's phones and Sprint's
>phones uses different cellular telephone schematics?

PCS means 1900 MHz - just the frequency range. It implies nothing
about the modulation method, etc.

GSM is also offered in the PCS band.

In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Mark Kim <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sprint and Verizon use *the same* protocol. CDMA (for the PTT services,
>> CDMA 1xRTT). Verizon uses 800 in most markets, 1900MHz in a few. SPCS is
>> all 1900MHz. But it's all CDMA. You can't use PTT on either Sprint or Verizon
>> if your phone is using an analog signal, so that's irrelevant (and on Sprint,
>> if you're analog, you're roaming and probably not able to use PTT anyhow).
>
> You're kidding. I thought that PCS and CDMA are different protocols,

PCS is a marketing term, in my opinion, but the FCC uses it too. But it
just refers to the *frequency.* (1900 MHz)

AT&T has marketed their phones as Digital PCS for years and they use TDMA
(and now GSM), completely different cellular protocols, but they are mostly
1900 MHz so the designation fits. Sprint is all 1900.

> So both PCS and CDMA use the same transmission methods, algorithms, and
> Cell Phone Schematics? Or is it because Verizon's phones and Sprint's
> phones uses different cellular telephone schematics?

No. Stop thinking of PCS as a separate protocol. The PCS frequency is used
by GSM, CDMA and TDMA carriers.

Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, and a few smaller carriers all use CDMA.

PCS refers *only* to the fact that a phone is using 1900 MHz. It could be
running on any of the digital protocols at that frequency.

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In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Mark Kim <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sprint and Verizon use *the same* protocol. CDMA (for the PTT services,
>> CDMA 1xRTT). Verizon uses 800 in most markets, 1900MHz in a few. SPCS is
>> all 1900MHz. But it's all CDMA. You can't use PTT on either Sprint or Verizon
>> if your phone is using an analog signal, so that's irrelevant (and on Sprint,
>> if you're analog, you're roaming and probably not able to use PTT anyhow).
>
> You're kidding. I thought that PCS and CDMA are different protocols,

PCS is a marketing term, in my opinion, but the FCC uses it too. But it
just refers to the *frequency.* (1900 MHz)

AT&T has marketed their phones as Digital PCS for years and they use TDMA
(and now GSM), completely different cellular protocols, but they are mostly
1900 MHz so the designation fits. Sprint is all 1900.

> So both PCS and CDMA use the same transmission methods, algorithms, and
> Cell Phone Schematics? Or is it because Verizon's phones and Sprint's
> phones uses different cellular telephone schematics?

No. Stop thinking of PCS as a separate protocol. The PCS frequency is used
by GSM, CDMA and TDMA carriers.

Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, and a few smaller carriers all use CDMA.

PCS refers *only* to the fact that a phone is using 1900 MHz. It could be
running on any of the digital protocols at that frequency.

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In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Mark Kim <[email protected]> wrote:
> Which proves that you have to test out the service before even placing
> it in the market. IMO Verizon's PTT might be a failed product due to
> the rush nature of the service....

Exactly. Sprint took more time, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had the
better service.

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In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Mark Kim <[email protected]> wrote:
> Which proves that you have to test out the service before even placing
> it in the market. IMO Verizon's PTT might be a failed product due to
> the rush nature of the service....

Exactly. Sprint took more time, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had the
better service.

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> Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, and a few smaller carriers all use CDMA.

Don't forget that US Cellular uses CDMA as well. So PCS is actually
just a 1900MHz Frequency Subsidiary of a particular protocol?

> Verizon, Sprint, Alltel, and a few smaller carriers all use CDMA.

Don't forget that US Cellular uses CDMA as well. So PCS is actually
just a 1900MHz Frequency Subsidiary of a particular protocol?