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  1. #1
    W874
    Guest
    Hope someone can help with this question.

    My wife was using an older Nokia 5165 phone on Cingular, which had worked well.
    Unfortunately, the phone fell out of her jacket, and got run over by a car.

    So, over to the Cingular store I go, and guess what. They don't use that phone
    anymore, and would really like me to sign a new 2 year agreement, and get into
    a new GSM phone. If I want the 5165 phone, it will set me back $150!

    Now, I'm on a month to month plan, and don't really want to sign up for another
    2 years. And my wife was happy with this phone, which is really built well.....
    the newer Nokia phones seem to be built real chincey.

    So, I went on ebay, and found a new 5165 for under $10. Probably one that
    someone had from a plan like TracPhone, and then returned. I called up Cingular
    to change the ESN number, and it seemed to work ok, but now the phone comes up
    with "US Cingular".

    The lady at Cingular said that while the phone works, it may "confuse" the
    system, and not register correctly. In fact, it may go into roam mode when it
    shouldn't. She suggested not using it.

    Question: Why does it say US Cingular ? Is there a chance of roaming
    incorrectly ? Is there an internal code to set, which will convince this phone
    that it's a Cingular phone ?

    Many thanks in advance for your help.





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  2. #2
    Stanley Reynolds
    Guest

    Re: Replacing a Cingular Phone


    "W874" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Hope someone can help with this question.
    >
    > My wife was using an older Nokia 5165 phone on Cingular, which had worked

    well.
    > Unfortunately, the phone fell out of her jacket, and got run over by a

    car.
    >
    > So, over to the Cingular store I go, and guess what. They don't use that

    phone
    > anymore, and would really like me to sign a new 2 year agreement, and get

    into
    > a new GSM phone. If I want the 5165 phone, it will set me back $150!
    >
    > Now, I'm on a month to month plan, and don't really want to sign up for

    another
    > 2 years. And my wife was happy with this phone, which is really built

    well.....
    > the newer Nokia phones seem to be built real chincey.
    >
    > So, I went on ebay, and found a new 5165 for under $10. Probably one that
    > someone had from a plan like TracPhone, and then returned. I called up

    Cingular
    > to change the ESN number, and it seemed to work ok, but now the phone

    comes up
    > with "US Cingular".
    >
    > The lady at Cingular said that while the phone works, it may "confuse" the
    > system, and not register correctly. In fact, it may go into roam mode when

    it
    > shouldn't. She suggested not using it.
    >
    > Question: Why does it say US Cingular ? Is there a chance of roaming
    > incorrectly ? Is there an internal code to set, which will convince this

    phone
    > that it's a Cingular phone ?
    >
    > Many thanks in advance for your help.
    >
    >


    You need a IRDB update, should be able to get this over the air.
    *3001#12345#
    select NAM 1
    Home system ID (depends on your city)
    Home SOC (this is what you need to change try 3)

    after the SOC is corrected wait over nite for an update
    if you don't get an update list your settings but not your phone number and
    I will try to find the correct ones.
    not sure the 3 is correct for cingular where you are at.

    Stanley





  3. #3
    Stanley Reynolds
    Guest

    Re: Replacing a Cingular Phone

    <snip>
    > > So, I went on ebay, and found a new 5165 for under $10. Probably one

    that
    > > someone had from a plan like TracPhone, and then returned. I called up

    <snip>
    Hope it's not a TracPhone, I think they need all new firmware "full flash".
    If you can change the SOC then unless the band order is is wrong you should
    be ok.





  4. #4
    W874
    Guest

    Re: Replacing a Cingular Phone

    Stanley,

    Thanks for your advice. I went through the procedure, and will see what
    happens. Incidentally, I am in the Detroit area.

    Many thanks !

    Irv



  5. #5
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Replacing a Cingular Phone

    [email protected] (W874) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Stanley,
    >
    > Thanks for your advice. I went through the procedure, and will see what
    > happens. Incidentally, I am in the Detroit area.
    >
    > Many thanks !
    >
    > Irv


    Unlike many cell companies, Cingular is very lax about sending updates
    over the air. I've even had trouble getting Customer Service to do it
    when I've called and requested an over-the-air update.

    Going to a Cingular-owned company store (rather than an independant
    dealer) and asking one of the reps there to initiate the OAP update
    works the best.

    Good luck!

    (PS: are you sure it says "US Cingular" and not "US Cellular"?)



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