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  1. #1
    GMS
    Guest
    Hi all,

    Just reached the end of a 12 month contract with T-mobile through Phones 4 U
    (uk).
    I have a Nokia 3650 which I'm quite happy with, but I was offered a new
    handset to get me to stay.

    I took them up on this and took a Samsung x600 to pass on to my girlfriend.
    She has a virgin PAYG and I'm thinking of unlocking the x600 so she can use
    it but I'm a little unsure of what I'm doing.

    I looked at a load of online unlocking services which look OK on the surface
    but I was wondering if any of you had any advice, recommendations or words
    of warning that I can think about before going ahead.

    The only concern that I can really identify is that the handset may still
    belong to the network. Is this a real concern?

    Thanks for any thoughts,

    ste





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  2. #2
    Cyrus Afzali
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:24:27 GMT, "GMS" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Hi all,
    >
    >Just reached the end of a 12 month contract with T-mobile through Phones 4 U
    >(uk).
    >I have a Nokia 3650 which I'm quite happy with, but I was offered a new
    >handset to get me to stay.
    >
    >I took them up on this and took a Samsung x600 to pass on to my girlfriend.
    >She has a virgin PAYG and I'm thinking of unlocking the x600 so she can use
    >it but I'm a little unsure of what I'm doing.


    You mean using it on your plan? If so, you'd have to convert to some
    shared minutes or "family" plan. Otherwise, she'd have to get a plan
    on her own.
    >
    >I looked at a load of online unlocking services which look OK on the surface
    >but I was wondering if any of you had any advice, recommendations or words
    >of warning that I can think about before going ahead.


    You say you got the phone through a UK provider, but was your TM
    contract with T-Mobile USA or one of its overseas units? I don't know
    what the policy is of the units outside the U.S., but TM USA will give
    you the unlock code once you've been a customer for about 90 days, as
    long as your account is in good standing. Once you have that, you can
    unlock it yourself and save any fee.
    >
    >The only concern that I can really identify is that the handset may still
    >belong to the network. Is this a real concern?


    Not if it's properly unlocked.
    >
    >Thanks for any thoughts,
    >
    >ste
    >





  3. #3
    GMS
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice


    "Cyrus Afzali" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:24:27 GMT, "GMS" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Hi all,
    > >
    > >Just reached the end of a 12 month contract with T-mobile through Phones

    4 U
    > >(uk).
    > >I have a Nokia 3650 which I'm quite happy with, but I was offered a new
    > >handset to get me to stay.
    > >
    > >I took them up on this and took a Samsung x600 to pass on to my

    girlfriend.
    > >She has a virgin PAYG and I'm thinking of unlocking the x600 so she can

    use
    > >it but I'm a little unsure of what I'm doing.

    >
    > You mean using it on your plan? If so, you'd have to convert to some
    > shared minutes or "family" plan. Otherwise, she'd have to get a plan
    > on her own.
    > >
    > >I looked at a load of online unlocking services which look OK on the

    surface
    > >but I was wondering if any of you had any advice, recommendations or

    words
    > >of warning that I can think about before going ahead.

    >
    > You say you got the phone through a UK provider, but was your TM
    > contract with T-Mobile USA or one of its overseas units? I don't know
    > what the policy is of the units outside the U.S., but TM USA will give
    > you the unlock code once you've been a customer for about 90 days, as
    > long as your account is in good standing. Once you have that, you can
    > unlock it yourself and save any fee.
    > >
    > >The only concern that I can really identify is that the handset may still
    > >belong to the network. Is this a real concern?

    >
    > Not if it's properly unlocked.
    > >
    > >Thanks for any thoughts,
    > >
    > >ste



    Sorry - should have been clearer. I'm in the UK and my contract and
    everything are with T-mobile UK.
    I'm just interested in getting my girl's Virgin pay as you go sim and
    sticking it in the Samsung that's currently locked to T-mobile.

    When you say "Not if it's properly unlocked", can you clarify what you mean
    by that?

    Cheers





  4. #4
    Cyrus Afzali
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:40:29 GMT, "GMS" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Cyrus Afzali" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]


    >> You say you got the phone through a UK provider, but was your TM
    >> contract with T-Mobile USA or one of its overseas units? I don't know
    >> what the policy is of the units outside the U.S., but TM USA will give
    >> you the unlock code once you've been a customer for about 90 days, as
    >> long as your account is in good standing. Once you have that, you can
    >> unlock it yourself and save any fee.
    >> >
    >> >The only concern that I can really identify is that the handset may still
    >> >belong to the network. Is this a real concern?

    >>
    >> Not if it's properly unlocked.
    >> >
    >> >Thanks for any thoughts,
    >> >
    >> >ste

    >
    >
    >Sorry - should have been clearer. I'm in the UK and my contract and
    >everything are with T-mobile UK.
    >I'm just interested in getting my girl's Virgin pay as you go sim and
    >sticking it in the Samsung that's currently locked to T-mobile.
    >
    >When you say "Not if it's properly unlocked", can you clarify what you mean
    >by that?


    A GSM phone can be unlocked by getting the proper code algorithm
    that's based on your phone's serial number (more properly known as an
    IMEI). T-Mobile USA will easily give you that code and instructions to
    unlock your phone once you've been a customer for a while. I can't
    confirm that they'll do that easily worldwide. But regardless, you can
    usually get it done for a relatively small fee at local shops.

    If a phone is not locked, it won't accept a "foreign" SIM -- in other
    words, a SIM that's provided by a separate carrier from the one
    supplying the phone.

    Getting a phone to work with a prepaid SIM shouldn't be any problem in
    an unlocked phone. The main reason people want phones unlocked in the
    first place is so they can use them in a different country to avoid
    paying outrageously expensive international roaming fees.



  5. #5
    Jim MacKenzie
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice


    "GMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > The only concern that I can really identify is that the handset may still
    > belong to the network. Is this a real concern?


    No. You paid for the phone, either directly in cash or as a part of your
    monthly service fees. The phone belongs to you, so you are free to unlock
    it (or not) as you wish. However, before you pay someone to unlock it,
    phone T-Mobile and ask if they can give you the unlock code for your old
    phone. They might.

    Jim





  6. #6
    Newbie
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice

    From what I hear, T-Mobile will help you unlock it after mere 14 days.
    Ask them before you spend any time or money.



  7. #7
    Joseph
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice

    On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 19:35:36 GMT, Cyrus Afzali <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >If a phone is not locked, it won't accept a "foreign" SIM -- in other
    >words, a SIM that's provided by a separate carrier from the one
    >supplying the phone.


    I believe you have that slightly off. If a phone *is* locked it won't
    accept a foreign SIM not if a phone is not locked.

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  8. #8
    GMS
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice

    "Newbie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:090820041639056533%[email protected]
    > From what I hear, T-Mobile will help you unlock it after mere 14 days.
    > Ask them before you spend any time or money.


    great stuff - thanks all.





  9. #9
    Rob Shepherd
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice

    Jim MacKenzie wrote:
    > "GMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>The only concern that I can really identify is that the handset may still
    >>belong to the network. Is this a real concern?

    >
    >
    > No. You paid for the phone, either directly in cash or as a part of your
    > monthly service fees. The phone belongs to you, so you are free to unlock
    > it (or not) as you wish. However, before you pay someone to unlock it,
    > phone T-Mobile and ask if they can give you the unlock code for your old
    > phone. They might.
    >
    > Jim
    >
    >


    He dosn't want to give his OLD phone to his g'friend, he want's to continue to use his OLD
    phone with the renewed contract and give the New samsung (Which is supposed to be used
    with the renewed contract) to his girlfriend.

    As far as T-Mobile are concerned the Old phone is his to do whatever and the new phoone is
    registed to him with his number as part of his renewed contract.

    T-Mobile might be reluctant to let you give away and unlock a brand new handset because
    you are supposed to use it with the renewed contract.(that's how they can afford to give
    away a new phone with a new or renewed contract); by subsidy.

    There are tighter security systems these days to combat Phone theft and SIM iD numbers are
    supposed to be tied to an IMEI number so networks can keeps track of whats going on.

    You can get away with it as long as you don't get your phone stolen or lost or anything.
    You are effectivly giving up your rights to any insurance deal or customer service you
    require in the event of you or your g'friend losing your phones or theft of your phones.

    If you were doing this the right way round then everything is perfectly in order. ie.

    T-Mobile unlocks the Nokia so Virgin can Legally register it their network. You continue
    using your plan and contract with the samsung.

    Rob



  10. #10
    glynn goddard
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice

    On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:31:39 GMT, "GMS" <[email protected]> wrote:in a shakey
    hand

    >"Newbie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:090820041639056533%[email protected]
    >> From what I hear, T-Mobile will help you unlock it after mere 14 days.
    >> Ask them before you spend any time or money.

    >
    >great stuff - thanks all.


    Before you spend a penny on unlocking, try swapping SIMs. Virgin run on
    T-mob's network and I can attest that putting a Virgin SIM in locked T-Mob
    handsets have worked with no problems. I'm on T-Mob and Virgin in the UK.

    ttfn.





  11. #11
    MahaRaj
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice


    "GMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Hi all,
    >
    > Just reached the end of a 12 month contract with T-mobile through Phones 4

    U
    > (uk).
    > I have a Nokia 3650 which I'm quite happy with, but I was offered a new
    > handset to get me to stay.
    >
    > I took them up on this and took a Samsung x600 to pass on to my

    girlfriend.
    > She has a virgin PAYG and I'm thinking of unlocking the x600 so she can

    use
    > it but I'm a little unsure of what I'm doing.
    >
    > I looked at a load of online unlocking services which look OK on the

    surface
    > but I was wondering if any of you had any advice, recommendations or words
    > of warning that I can think about before going ahead.
    >
    > The only concern that I can really identify is that the handset may still
    > belong to the network. Is this a real concern?
    >
    > Thanks for any thoughts,
    >
    > ste
    >

    You can unlock it FREE here,

    http://www.cellphonehacks.com/viewtopic.php?t=13672

    MahaRaj





  12. #12
    MahaRaj
    Guest

    Re: unlocking advice


    "MahaRaj" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "GMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > Just reached the end of a 12 month contract with T-mobile through Phones

    4
    > U
    > > (uk).
    > > I have a Nokia 3650 which I'm quite happy with, but I was offered a new
    > > handset to get me to stay.
    > >
    > > I took them up on this and took a Samsung x600 to pass on to my

    > girlfriend.
    > > She has a virgin PAYG and I'm thinking of unlocking the x600 so she can

    > use
    > > it but I'm a little unsure of what I'm doing.
    > >
    > > I looked at a load of online unlocking services which look OK on the

    > surface
    > > but I was wondering if any of you had any advice, recommendations or

    words
    > > of warning that I can think about before going ahead.
    > >
    > > The only concern that I can really identify is that the handset may

    still
    > > belong to the network. Is this a real concern?
    > >
    > > Thanks for any thoughts,
    > >
    > > ste
    > >

    > You can unlock it FREE here,
    >
    > http://www.cellphonehacks.com/viewtopic.php?t=13672
    >
    > MahaRaj



    post your IMEI no and I will send you unlock codes FREE.








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