help with an old one

i bought a 5130 as working but on orange. i unlocked it so that i can use
voda. it accepts sim card ok but wont register to the network - i get no
signal.
i hooked it up to wintesla and it told me that the reciever was set on the
wrong channel (how could it have worked before then ????? ) so i put that
right but still not registering to network.
net monitor shows that it is in contact with 5 or 6 cells and the signal
strength is well within the limits so it cannot be a faulty reciever.

anybody got any ideas whats wrong/ how to fix it ?

TIA

Chris

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"Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>i bought a 5130 as working but on orange. i unlocked it so that i can use
> voda. it accepts sim card ok but wont register to the network - i get no
> signal.
> i hooked it up to wintesla and it told me that the reciever was set on the
> wrong channel (how could it have worked before then ????? ) so i put that
> right but still not registering to network.
> net monitor shows that it is in contact with 5 or 6 cells and the signal
> strength is well within the limits so it cannot be a faulty reciever.
>
> anybody got any ideas whats wrong/ how to fix it ?

There's nothing wrong with it. The 5130 is a single band GSM 1800 handset
and as Voda works on GSM 900, it's never going to work.

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"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >i bought a 5130 as working but on orange. i unlocked it so that i can use
> > voda. it accepts sim card ok but wont register to the network - i get no
> > signal.
> > i hooked it up to wintesla and it told me that the reciever was set on
the
> > wrong channel (how could it have worked before then ????? ) so i put
that
> > right but still not registering to network.
> > net monitor shows that it is in contact with 5 or 6 cells and the signal
> > strength is well within the limits so it cannot be a faulty reciever.
> >
> > anybody got any ideas whats wrong/ how to fix it ?
>
> There's nothing wrong with it. The 5130 is a single band GSM 1800 handset
> and as Voda works on GSM 900, it's never going to work.
>


really ? i presumed the 5130 was just a newer version of the 5110. i owned
a few 5110's that worked on voda

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:35:06 +0100, "Chris 159"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news[email protected]...
>>
>> "Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >i bought a 5130 as working but on orange. i unlocked it so that i can use
>> > voda. it accepts sim card ok but wont register to the network - i get no
>> > signal.
>> > i hooked it up to wintesla and it told me that the reciever was set on
>the
>> > wrong channel (how could it have worked before then ????? ) so i put
>that
>> > right but still not registering to network.
>> > net monitor shows that it is in contact with 5 or 6 cells and the signal
>> > strength is well within the limits so it cannot be a faulty reciever.
>> >
>> > anybody got any ideas whats wrong/ how to fix it ?
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with it. The 5130 is a single band GSM 1800 handset
>> and as Voda works on GSM 900, it's never going to work.
>>
>
>
>really ? i presumed the 5130 was just a newer version of the 5110. i owned
>a few 5110's that worked on voda
>
>

the 5130 works only on gsm 1800 which is orange, t-mobile, virgin. the
5110 on the other hand is GSM 900 which is o2 & voda.

"eggster2k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:35:06 +0100, "Chris 159"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >i bought a 5130 as working but on orange. i unlocked it so that i can
use
> >> > voda. it accepts sim card ok but wont register to the network - i get
no
> >> > signal.
> >> > i hooked it up to wintesla and it told me that the reciever was set
on
> >the
> >> > wrong channel (how could it have worked before then ????? ) so i put
> >that
> >> > right but still not registering to network.
> >> > net monitor shows that it is in contact with 5 or 6 cells and the
signal
> >> > strength is well within the limits so it cannot be a faulty reciever.
> >> >
> >> > anybody got any ideas whats wrong/ how to fix it ?
> >>
> >> There's nothing wrong with it. The 5130 is a single band GSM 1800
handset
> >> and as Voda works on GSM 900, it's never going to work.
> >>
> >
> >
> >really ? i presumed the 5130 was just a newer version of the 5110. i
owned
> >a few 5110's that worked on voda
> >
> >
>
> the 5130 works only on gsm 1800 which is orange, t-mobile, virgin. the
> 5110 on the other hand is GSM 900 which is o2 & voda.
>

ok. i'm not questioning anybodys intelligence here - just trying to work out
whats what :-)
in the past i have owned either 2 or 3 orange nk402's (presumed 5110 but
dont know for sure) and have unlocked them and used voda sims without a
problem.
would i be right in thinking then that there used to be a 5110 nk402 on
orange ? i s'pose there must have been if i had them working on voda before.
i bought this 5130 presuming it would be a 5110 and would work ok :-(

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:04:30 +0100, "Chris 159"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>i bought a 5130 as working but on orange. i unlocked it so that i can use
>voda. it accepts sim card ok but wont register to the network - i get no
>signal.
>i hooked it up to wintesla and it told me that the reciever was set on the
>wrong channel (how could it have worked before then ????? ) so i put that
>right but still not registering to network.
>net monitor shows that it is in contact with 5 or 6 cells and the signal
>strength is well within the limits so it cannot be a faulty reciever.

Isn't the 5130 a single band 1800 Mhz phone? If you're in an area
where Voda is only 900 Mhz it wouldn't work would it?

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:35:06 +0100, "Chris 159"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news[email protected]...
>>
>> "Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >i bought a 5130 as working but on orange. i unlocked it so that i can use
>> > voda. it accepts sim card ok but wont register to the network - i get no
>> > signal.
>> > i hooked it up to wintesla and it told me that the reciever was set on
>the
>> > wrong channel (how could it have worked before then ????? ) so i put
>that
>> > right but still not registering to network.
>> > net monitor shows that it is in contact with 5 or 6 cells and the signal
>> > strength is well within the limits so it cannot be a faulty reciever.
>> >
>> > anybody got any ideas whats wrong/ how to fix it ?
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with it. The 5130 is a single band GSM 1800 handset
>> and as Voda works on GSM 900, it's never going to work.
>>
>
>
>really ? i presumed the 5130 was just a newer version of the 5110. i owned
>a few 5110's that worked on voda

5110 is single band GSM 900. 5130 is single band GSM 1800. The 51XX
series was probably the last or one of the last to use single bands.
Most phones after that combined both 900 and 1800. Usually the
"improved" or modified versions have an i affixed to them e.g. 6310i
or 3510i.
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"Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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[snip]

i'm not questioning anybodys intelligence here - just trying to work out
> whats what :-)
> in the past i have owned either 2 or 3 orange nk402's (presumed 5110 but
> dont know for sure) and have unlocked them and used voda sims without a
> problem.

It's possible that you may have been in an area where Voda have some 1800
MHz microcells, but you were lucky, they're only used to fill in areas of
poor coverage.

> would i be right in thinking then that there used to be a 5110 nk402 on
> orange ? i s'pose there must have been if i had them working on voda
> before.
> i bought this 5130 presuming it would be a 5110 and would work ok :-(

No, the nk402 on Orange was a rebadged 5130 not a 5110.

Let me explain. There are two phones, the 5110 and the 5130. They both
look identical but one works on 900 MHz (5110) and the other works on 1800
MHz (5130).

Voda and O2 (previously Cellnet) work on 900 MHz so a SIM from either of
these will work in a 5110. Orange and T-Mobile (formerly 1-2-1) work on
1800 MHz so they work with the 5130 (badged nk402 on Orange) but *not* the
other way round. As I said Voda (and maybe O2, not sure) have some 1800
microcells used to fill in blackspots, but you can't rely on them for full
coverage.

Ok..?

Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> [snip]
>
> i'm not questioning anybodys intelligence here - just trying to work out
> > whats what :-)
> > in the past i have owned either 2 or 3 orange nk402's (presumed 5110 but
> > dont know for sure) and have unlocked them and used voda sims without a
> > problem.
>



> It's possible that you may have been in an area where Voda have some 1800
> MHz microcells, but you were lucky, they're only used to fill in areas of
> poor coverage.
>
As I said Voda (and maybe O2, not sure) have some 1800
> microcells used to fill in blackspots, but you can't rely on them for full
> coverage.
>


thats what i needed explaining. ta :-)

"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > i'm not questioning anybodys intelligence here - just trying to work out
> >> whats what :-)
> >> in the past i have owned either 2 or 3 orange nk402's (presumed 5110
but
> >> dont know for sure) and have unlocked them and used voda sims without a
> >> problem.
> >
> > It's possible that you may have been in an area where Voda have some
1800
> > MHz microcells, but you were lucky, they're only used to fill in areas
of
> > poor coverage.
> >
> >> would i be right in thinking then that there used to be a 5110 nk402 on
> >> orange ? i s'pose there must have been if i had them working on voda
> >> before.
> >> i bought this 5130 presuming it would be a 5110 and would work ok :-(
> >
> > No, the nk402 on Orange was a rebadged 5130 not a 5110.
> >
> > Let me explain. There are two phones, the 5110 and the 5130. They both
> > look identical but one works on 900 MHz (5110) and the other works on
1800
> > MHz (5130).
>
> Don't forget there was also a 5146 that was also single band GSM 1800 (I
> think Nokia just enjoyed confusing people).
>


i guess so - theres no mention of a 5130 on their site :-/

"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message

[snip]

> Don't forget there was also a 5146 that was also single band GSM 1800 (I
> think Nokia just enjoyed confusing people).

You're absolutely right, in fact thinking back I believe that the 5146 was
the one Orange badged as the 402, not the 5130 as I said before.

Ivor

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:10:12 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<[email protected]> wrote:

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>"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>[snip]
>
>> Don't forget there was also a 5146 that was also single band GSM 1800 (I
>> think Nokia just enjoyed confusing people).
>
>You're absolutely right, in fact thinking back I believe that the 5146 was
>the one Orange badged as the 402, not the 5130 as I said before.
>
>Ivor
>

a 5146 was one2one, but if you unlock it, it will become a 5130
(gsm1800)

an nk402 was orange, but again if you unlock it, it will become a 5130
(gsm1800)


this is what i've always thought to be correct, someone correct me if
i'm wrong!

"eggster2k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:10:12 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> >> Don't forget there was also a 5146 that was also single band GSM 1800
(I
> >> think Nokia just enjoyed confusing people).
> >
> >You're absolutely right, in fact thinking back I believe that the 5146
was
> >the one Orange badged as the 402, not the 5130 as I said before.
> >
> >Ivor
> >
>
> a 5146 was one2one, but if you unlock it, it will become a 5130
> (gsm1800)
>
> an nk402 was orange, but again if you unlock it, it will become a 5130
> (gsm1800)
>
>
> this is what i've always thought to be correct, someone correct me if
> i'm wrong!

my nk402 is a 5130 wether it be locked or unlocked. thats what the sticker
under the battery says

"Chris 159" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "eggster2k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:10:12 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Richard Colton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >
>> >[snip]
>> >
>> >> Don't forget there was also a 5146 that was also single band GSM 1800
> (I
>> >> think Nokia just enjoyed confusing people).
>> >
>> >You're absolutely right, in fact thinking back I believe that the 5146
> was
>> >the one Orange badged as the 402, not the 5130 as I said before.
>> >
>> >Ivor
>> >
>>
>> a 5146 was one2one, but if you unlock it, it will become a 5130
>> (gsm1800)
>>
>> an nk402 was orange, but again if you unlock it, it will become a 5130
>> (gsm1800)
>>
>>
>> this is what i've always thought to be correct, someone correct me if
>> i'm wrong!
>
> my nk402 is a 5130 wether it be locked or unlocked. thats what the sticker
> under the battery says

That sounds about right. Orange went through a phase of renaming handsets
(Nokia Orange, 5.1, 402, 702 etc. or appending an e on to the end), but I
think the 5130 was the Orange version and 5146 the One2One version.

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