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  1. #1
    wierdtooth
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    Just bought a 1100 in Philippines (70 U.S. dollars--good price?...I
    only need it for very limited use). The manual (in english) hardly
    says anything about initial charging of battery. I read somewhere a
    long time ago that you should NOT use the phone when you first get
    it...you should immediately charge it and use it fully and let it
    discharge...then charge it again. But the guy in the store (who
    seemed pretty smart) said you can start using it right now (and the
    battery currently is about half fully charged, judging from the bars),
    then charge it after it's discharged/drained. So that's what I"m
    doing. It's going to take a LONG time before it's discharged,
    because I hardly use it at all...IN fact I may even leave the country
    before I ever run down the battery.



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  2. #2
    Frater Mus
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    Re: Initial charging of battery with new phone

    On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 at 05:20 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Just bought a 1100 in Philippines (70 U.S. dollars--good price?...I
    > only need it for very limited use). The manual (in english) hardly
    > says anything about initial charging of battery. I read somewhere a
    > long time ago that you should NOT use the phone when you first get
    > it...you should immediately charge it and use it fully and let it
    > discharge...then charge it again. But the guy in the store (who


    That may have been specific to nicad batts. The more common LiIon/LiPo
    and NiMH batts don't suffer from operation or charging on a partial
    charge.

    I am such a geek that I do some of my charging on peak-detecting
    chargers that I use for electric airplane models. Works great.


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  3. #3
    Ivor Jones
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    Re: Initial charging of battery with new phone


    "Frater Mus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 at 05:20 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Just bought a 1100 in Philippines (70 U.S. dollars--good price?...I
    >> only need it for very limited use). The manual (in english) hardly
    >> says anything about initial charging of battery. I read somewhere a
    >> long time ago that you should NOT use the phone when you first get
    >> it...you should immediately charge it and use it fully and let it
    >> discharge...then charge it again. But the guy in the store (who

    >
    > That may have been specific to nicad batts. The more common LiIon/LiPo
    > and NiMH batts don't suffer from operation or charging on a partial
    > charge.


    However, Li-Ion batteries *do* remember the number of charge/discharge
    cycles. So charging when only partially discharged is wasting a charge.
    While I agree you shouldn't run a Li-Ion battery totally flat (the inbuilt
    electronics won't let you anyway) it's probably best to use it until you
    get the low battery warning on the phone and then charge it. Continual
    topping up, such as putting the phone in a car kit and taking it out again
    several times a day on short journeys is *not* good for any battery type,
    except perhaps lead acid..!

    Ivor





  4. #4
    wierdtooth
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    Re: Initial charging of battery with new phone

    Thanks, so everyone seems to agree it's no problem if I just charge it now,
    after having used it for a few days (but its still not nearly discharged)...
    the only minor disadvantage being that the number of cycles is (sort of)
    remembered (which I don't care at all about).??



  5. #5
    wierdtooth
    Guest

    Re: Initial charging of battery with new phone

    Thanks, so everyone seems to agree it's no problem if I just charge it now,
    after having used it for a few days (but its still not nearly discharged)...
    the only minor disadvantage being that the number of cycles is (sort of)
    remembered (which I don't care at all about).??



  6. #6
    Ivor Jones
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    Re: Initial charging of battery with new phone

    wierdtooth wrote:
    > Thanks, so everyone seems to agree it's no problem if I just charge
    > it now, after having used it for a few days (but its still not
    > nearly discharged)... the only minor disadvantage being that the
    > number of cycles is (sort of) remembered (which I don't care at all
    > about).??


    You'll care when you have to buy a new battery well before when you
    otherwise would..! Run it down until you get the low battery warning,
    *then* charge it. Do this every time, ideally have two or more batteries
    and swap for a freshly charged one each time. *Don't* swap the phone in
    and out of a car kit a dozen times a day (or if you do, tape over the
    charge contacts in the cradle..!) and get a desktop charger to charge your
    spare batteries off the phone.

    Ivor





  7. #7
    Al Klein
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    Re: Initial charging of battery with new phone

    On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 23:07:25 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
    <[email protected]> said in alt.cellular.nokia:

    >However, Li-Ion batteries *do* remember the number of charge/discharge
    >cycles.


    Total time, not total number.
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  8. #8
    tuned by RAZO
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    Re: Initial charging of battery with new phone

    Al Klein wrote:
    > On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 23:07:25 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
    > <[email protected]> said in alt.cellular.nokia:
    >
    >
    >>However, Li-Ion batteries *do* remember the number of charge/discharge
    >>cycles.

    >
    >
    > Total time, not total number.
    > ---
    > CellPhonesEtc at optonline dot net


    Total numbers (up to 500-700 charges), which is somewhat relative to
    time, a hardly used battery of five years wouldve had chemical breakdown
    then.



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