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  1. #1
    Ajanta
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    I need a gsm phone for use in UK and India. (Last time I had a Nokia
    6610 which served well but I no longer have it.)

    I simply need a phone for voice and text messaging. Camera, web, email
    are not required. It will not be used in the US.

    Please suggest the "best value" models I can look for used.

    I understand that my phone should be "triband" but not quite sure which
    three bands are needed. Please point me towards those numbers so I can
    scrutinize the ebay ads.

    Thanks.



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  2. #2
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    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    Thus spaketh Ajanta:
    > I need a gsm phone for use in UK and India. (Last time I had a Nokia
    > 6610 which served well but I no longer have it.)
    >
    > I simply need a phone for voice and text messaging. Camera, web, email
    > are not required. It will not be used in the US.
    >
    > Please suggest the "best value" models I can look for used.
    >
    > I understand that my phone should be "triband" but not quite sure
    > which three bands are needed. Please point me towards those numbers
    > so I can scrutinize the ebay ads.
    >
    > Thanks.



    In the UK we use 900 and 1800 band, in India they also use 900 and 1800 band.
    You will need to decide which home band would be best for you, though you
    could get a quad-band phone and not have to worry.

    If you were to pick up a phone in the UK you can buy a dual-band 900/1800
    phone with a Pay As You Go SIM from US$26. Tri-band from US$35






  3. #3
    Geoffrey S. Mendelson
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    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    In article <091120050056179677%[email protected]>, Ajanta wrote:

    > I simply need a phone for voice and text messaging. Camera, web, email
    > are not required. It will not be used in the US.


    Then any 900/1800 dual band phone will work well. Make sure that it is
    UNLOCKED. Normally phones are sold with an SP (service provider) lock
    on them so that you can only use a SIM with an account on the service
    provider that sold you the phone.

    This is because you rarely pay the full price for a phone, some of it
    it subsidised by the expectation that you will use it and make money
    for the service provider. They lock it so that you can't buy a phone
    cheaply from one SP and then use it with another that has better prices,
    but lower subsidies.

    Motorola phones are almost impossible to unlock without expensive
    hardware and software, Nokia ones are very easy, but you have to
    know the SP they were locked to.

    Be careful buying used tri-band phones, some tri-band models sold in
    the U.S. were actually single band phones, with the non-U.S. bands
    (900/1800) disabled by the factory. They often show up on eBay.

    The main thing depends upon how many calls you plan to make while you
    are traveling. If you only want the phone for family to reach you in
    an emergency, then you should contact your local service provider and
    see what they can do for you. Be carefull, calls to your phone will be
    very expensive and a person calling you from next door will have
    to call you in the U.S. and then you will pay the cost of forwarding
    the call to you.

    However if you plan to make or receive many calls, then you should buy an
    unlocked phone with a pay-as-you-go SIM (either seperately or together)
    and use it with it's local number. Note that INCOMING calls are paid for
    by the caller, not you.

    If you are visiting family, friends, or a business associate you can
    have them get you a SIM before you arrive so that you can give out your
    number before you leave. If you are not particular about the service
    provider you use, the same people may have an old phone in a drawer
    that will do. It will probably need a new battery.

    It's important to note that money paid in advance for pay-as-you-go
    phones is forfitted if you don't use it after a certain amount of time.
    This depends upon the service provider. Some require you to use it,
    some require you to add new check the terms of service before buying.


    As for making calls back to the U.S. if you are bringing a laptop
    and have a VoIP account, such as Vonage, you can bring your account with
    you and as long as you can find a broadband internet connection, you
    are connected.

    You might also want to look at SkypeOut, but be warned they have also
    have a "no use SkypeOut, you loose your money" policy. It used
    to be without warning, which cost me almost $9, but after I complained
    they started sending out warning emails (but no refund).

    Geoff.

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  4. #4
    Ajanta
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    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[email protected]> wrote:

    : Then any 900/1800 dual band phone will work well.

    "World phones" I see on ebay also have an 800 or 850 band; is one of
    those preferrable to the other?

    : Be careful buying used tri-band phones, some tri-band models sold in
    : the U.S. were actually single band phones, with the non-U.S. bands
    : (900/1800) disabled by the factory. They often show up on eBay.

    Darn, must be among those I have been looking at. Maybe best to get a
    phone that is not branded by a provider?

    : The main thing depends upon how many calls you plan to make while
    : you are traveling...

    Basically to keep in touch and emergencies etc. Call would be local,
    not to US. I plan to get a sim card---borrow or buy---as soon as I
    arrive in a country.

    What is thebest choice in the nokia line (voice and text only, no web
    or email needed)?



  5. #5
    www.pocket.me.uk
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    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    "Ajanta" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:091120050857421422%[email protected]
    > Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > : Then any 900/1800 dual band phone will work well.
    >
    > "World phones" I see on ebay also have an 800 or 850 band; is one of
    > those preferrable to the other?
    >
    > : Be careful buying used tri-band phones, some tri-band models sold in
    > : the U.S. were actually single band phones, with the non-U.S. bands
    > : (900/1800) disabled by the factory. They often show up on eBay.
    >
    > Darn, must be among those I have been looking at. Maybe best to get a
    > phone that is not branded by a provider?
    >
    > : The main thing depends upon how many calls you plan to make while
    > : you are traveling...
    >
    > Basically to keep in touch and emergencies etc. Call would be local,
    > not to US. I plan to get a sim card---borrow or buy---as soon as I
    > arrive in a country.
    >
    > What is thebest choice in the nokia line (voice and text only, no web
    > or email needed)?




    The Nokia 1100 (dual-band GSM 900/1800) which cost you around 19.99 brand
    new. Unlocked it so you can use any UK and Indian sim card. The Nokia 1100
    can be unlocked for free from http://www.trycktill.com/eng/unlock_swe.asp
    Use a O2 sim card with it in the UK thay offer best intl text rate of 10p
    text to any where in the world from the UK. Get a O2 Sim from
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5790747835



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    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    "Ajanta" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:091120050056179677%[email protected]
    >I need a gsm phone for use in UK and India. (Last time I had a Nokia
    > 6610 which served well but I no longer have it.)
    >
    > I simply need a phone for voice and text messaging. Camera, web, email
    > are not required. It will not be used in the US.
    >
    > Please suggest the "best value" models I can look for used.
    >
    > I understand that my phone should be "triband" but not quite sure which
    > three bands are needed. Please point me towards those numbers so I can
    > scrutinize the ebay ads.
    >
    > Thanks.



    The Nokia 1100 (dual-band GSM 900/1800) which cost you around 19.99 brand
    new. Unlocked it so you can use any UK and Indian sim card. The Nokia 1100
    can be unlocked for free from http://www.trycktill.com/eng/unlock_swe.asp
    Use a O2 sim card with it in the UK thay offer best intl text rate of 10p
    text to any where in the world from the UK. Get a O2 Sim from
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5790747835




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    www.simcard.me.uk Local Pre Pay Sim Cards. Mobile Phones - Satellite Phones
    www.experimentalist.co.uk/forum/index.php Nokia
    6630,6680,7710,N91,N90,N70,E60,E61,E70 Unlocking, Free Sim Cards INFO.





  7. #7
    Geoffrey S. Mendelson
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    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    In article <091120050857421422%[email protected]>, Ajanta wrote:

    > "World phones" I see on ebay also have an 800 or 850 band; is one of
    > those preferrable to the other?


    There are 4 commonly used GSM bands:

    850 mHz: This is the old 800 mHz cellular band used in many places
    for analog, TDMA (DAMPS) digital and about 3 years ago
    AT&T wireless services converted their DAMPS network
    to GSM, since they had 800 mHz licenses that covered the
    entire U.S., they were able to get 800 mHz GSM phones made
    just for them. However GSM notation is different, so the
    same frequencies are called GSM 850.

    900 mHz This is the original European 900mHz GSM band. Almost every
    country outside of North America that has GSM has coverage
    in 900 mHz. Brazil and one eastern European country does not.

    1800 mHz This is the expansion band for GSM 1800. The carriers here
    were usually the later ones and cheaper than the 900 mHz,
    but not always true. Some 900 mHz carriers operate here
    too in crowded areas. Two countries operater GSM 1800 and
    not 900.

    1900 mHz This is the U.S. PCS (personal communication services)
    cellular expansion band. Some operators are GSM, are
    DAMPS. GSM coverage in this band is about 85% of the U.S.
    population, but far less of the area.

    > Darn, must be among those I have been looking at. Maybe best to get a
    > phone that is not branded by a provider?


    Yes. There are plenty of places that cell them new at reasonable prices.
    HOWEVER I would not buy a "world phone" if your native cellular phone is
    not GSM. It will just frustrate you and add aditional expense.


    > What is thebest choice in the nokia line (voice and text only, no web
    > or email needed)?


    I'm not up on the current models, but my best choice would be a used
    5110. They were sold almost everywhere and new batteries and chargers
    are easy to get. They are 900 mHz only, there are also 1800 mHz, 1900 mHz,
    DAMPS versions. If you know the service provider they are locked to, you
    can unlock them with a web browser.

    If you ask around in the UK or India, or anywhere else for that matter,
    you will probably find many old ones no longer in use.

    Whatever you get make sure to get a 230 volt charger and plug adaptors.

    Another nice phone is the Motorola C-380. My wife has one and it works
    well, although it does have all sorts of extras. It is tri-band
    900/1800/1900. I've seen them advertised new for $110 mail order
    in the U.S.

    If you get a UK charger, Boots, (the UK equivalent of Rite-Aide) has
    a very nice set of nesting adaptor plugs. it looks rather phalic, but does
    a good job.

    Geoff.

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    IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
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  8. #8
    Peter
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    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:57:41 GMT, Ajanta <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >: Then any 900/1800 dual band phone will work well.
    >
    >"World phones" I see on ebay also have an 800 or 850 band; is one of
    >those preferrable to the other?
    >
    >: Be careful buying used tri-band phones, some tri-band models sold in
    >: the U.S. were actually single band phones, with the non-U.S. bands
    >: (900/1800) disabled by the factory. They often show up on eBay.
    >
    >Darn, must be among those I have been looking at. Maybe best to get a
    >phone that is not branded by a provider?
    >
    >: The main thing depends upon how many calls you plan to make while
    >: you are traveling...
    >
    >Basically to keep in touch and emergencies etc. Call would be local,
    >not to US. I plan to get a sim card---borrow or buy---as soon as I
    >arrive in a country.
    >
    >What is thebest choice in the nokia line (voice and text only, no web
    >or email needed)?


    You can buy a brand new PAYG Nokia 1100 for between 20 - 30 quid. Easy
    enough to unlock, cheap enough to not worry about when you lose it.
    AIUI, it is dual band and also has a torch - possibly handy in the
    less salubrious parts of the UK and India.




  9. #9
    Ajanta
    Guest

    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:

    : >What is thebest choice in the nokia line (voice and text only, no web
    : >or email needed)?
    :
    : Nokia 3210, 3310, 3410 or 3510.

    None seem available at ebay.



  10. #10
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    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    "Ajanta" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:091120052330201267%[email protected]
    > Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > : >What is thebest choice in the nokia line (voice and text only, no web
    > : >or email needed)?
    > :
    > : Nokia 3210, 3310, 3410 or 3510.
    >
    > None seem available at ebay.



    Nokia 3220 unlocked triband will work in the UK and India Also the USA.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6431688982


    Or i can sell you a UK triband motorola locked to UK T-mobile for 29.99
    free airmail postage to the USA. As this phone is locked it will only work
    on the UK T-mobile network unless u can get it unlocked then work in India
    and USA.


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  11. #11
    Ajanta
    Guest

    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:

    : >: Nokia 3210, 3310, 3410 or 3510.
    : >
    : >None seem available at ebay.
    :
    : You must have a faulty browser. I tried each of the above using the
    : search "unlocked Nokia XXXX" and found some for each on eBay.

    I finally managed understand what the problem is. I was searching for
    US postings, where I am. Most of these models are listed from UK.



  12. #12
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    Ajanta wrote:
    > I need a gsm phone for use in UK and India. (Last time I had a Nokia
    > 6610 which served well but I no longer have it.)
    >
    > I simply need a phone for voice and text messaging. Camera, web, email
    > are not required. It will not be used in the US.
    >
    > Please suggest the "best value" models I can look for used.
    >
    > I understand that my phone should be "triband" but not quite sure which
    > three bands are needed. Please point me towards those numbers so I can
    > scrutinize the ebay ads.
    >
    > Thanks.


    See "http://sentimentalgift.com/mott2gsm90mh.html"

    You are probably better off with a new unlocked phone. Just replacing
    the battery in a used phone will be an expense, and you won't be sure
    that the phone is really unlocked.



  13. #13

    Re: Need recommendation for a travel phone (UK, India)

    I'm listing three Europe phones on eBay 13NOV 19:30PST.

    The auction numbers will be

    5829875620 Siemens A57
    5829862567 Nokia 5110
    5829885598 Siemens S46

    All auctions start at $9.99

    Tom




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