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    Re: Nokia Axes CDMA..chop chops

    BT News wrote:

    > With regard to your "world is moving to CDMA" ... Hmmm maybe you should
    > be looking to the real world rather than just USA.

    I am. In the U.S., CDMA dominates both voice and data, but in the ROW,
    all of the high speed data is CDMA.

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    Michael D. Sullivan

    Re: Nokia Axes CDMA..chop chops

    (Sorry to cross-post; I've set followups to alt.cellular.verizon.)

    On 8/13/2006 4:02 PM, Sco wrote:
    > Qualcomm shutdown CDMA base station development many years ago. For unknown
    > reason, Qualcomm could not build a successful CDMA base station. It has been
    > a bad sign for CDMA of Qualcomm in the future. It just can't go on with
    > CDMA. I believe that AT&T will kill CDMA of Qualcomm once for all.

    Qualcomm got out of the base station and handset business entirely; not
    because they couldn't build a successful CDMA base station but because
    those were and are commodity businesses at which they couldn't achieve
    the high profit margins that Qualcomm achieves from its chipmaking and
    patent licensing businesses.

    I don't understand what you mean when you say Qualcomm "just can't go on
    with CDMA." CDMA = Qualcomm = CDMA. Qualcomm owns the patents and
    makes/licenses the chips. It has no other business of significance (I
    doubt Eudora is a huge profit center), and its CDMA line of business
    makes money each time a cellphone or base station is sold that uses
    standard CDMA, 1xRTT, 1xEVDO, W-CDMA (aka UMTS), or W-CDMA with HSDPA.
    That's a very sizeable (i.e., huge) proportion of all the phones being
    sold and base stations being deployed in North/South America, Europe,
    Asia, and Australia. Probably Africa, too. (Pity that Antarctica isn't
    a big market...) Now and for the next decade, at least. And I suspect
    that Qualcomm has its tentacles into at least some of the technologies
    being developed for fixed broadband.

    And as to AT&T killing off Qualcomm once and for all, fuhgeddaboutit.
    AT&T hasn't been an equipment manufacturer for ages -- it sold its
    equipment to Lucent. (Seen any Lucent handsets?) AT&T also spun off
    its wireless operations, which were TDMA, to AT&T Wireless. AT&T
    Wireless then developed its PCS networks using GSM and introduced
    W-CDMA, which is reliant on Qualcomm patents. AT&T Wireless then merged
    with Cingular, which also used TDMA and GSM, and the merged company
    proceeded to (a) transition from TDMA to GSM and (b) roll out W-CDMA and
    HSDPA 3G service, which again uses Qualcomm patents. Then one of
    Cingular's parents, SBC, bought out AT&T and took its name, and SBC is
    in the process of buying Cingular's other parent, BellSouth; after the
    merger of AT&T and BellSouth is complete, Cingular will be AT&T's
    wireless arm, and it is fully committed to Qualcomm-licensed W-CDMA and

    Michael D. Sullivan
    Bethesda, MD (USA)
    (To reply, change example.invalid to com in the address.)

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