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  1. #1
    Ric
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    Does anyone have any new info on the upcoming N95 ?





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  2. #2
    youngb
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    Re: N95 ?

    try phonescoop



  3. #3
    Ric
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    Re: N95 ?


    > try phonescoop



    .....been watching.





  4. #4
    B. Peg
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    Re: N95 ?

    > Does anyone have any new info on the upcoming N95 ?

    Is that the GPS one that will not be approved by the FCC in the U.S.?

    Per the fine print beneath the phone on the NokiaUSA website: "The Nokia N95
    Device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal
    Communications Commission ("FCC")."

    I don't know what that implies, but I've been waiting for the N93 and
    Cingular says "No! It won't work on all bands of their network." Some
    800-850mHz band difference although it "supposedly" will work on another
    band, but they said "Might not work where you want it to."

    Rats!

    B~





  5. #5
    Ric
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    Re: N95 ?


    "B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:P%[email protected]
    >> Does anyone have any new info on the upcoming N95 ?

    >
    > Is that the GPS one that will not be approved by the FCC in the U.S.?
    >
    > Per the fine print beneath the phone on the NokiaUSA website: "The Nokia
    > N95 Device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal
    > Communications Commission ("FCC")."
    >
    > I don't know what that implies, but I've been waiting for the N93 and
    > Cingular says "No! It won't work on all bands of their network." Some
    > 800-850mHz band difference although it "supposedly" will work on another
    > band, but they said "Might not work where you want it to."
    >
    > Rats!
    >
    > B~


    If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek out a
    source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP camera...if it was
    flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my needs.





  6. #6
    Me
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    Re: N95 ?

    "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:2%[email protected]
    >
    > "B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:P%[email protected]
    >>> Does anyone have any new info on the upcoming N95 ?

    >>
    >> Is that the GPS one that will not be approved by the FCC in the U.S.?
    >>
    >> Per the fine print beneath the phone on the NokiaUSA website: "The Nokia
    >> N95 Device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the
    >> Federal Communications Commission ("FCC")."
    >>
    >> I don't know what that implies, but I've been waiting for the N93 and
    >> Cingular says "No! It won't work on all bands of their network." Some
    >> 800-850mHz band difference although it "supposedly" will work on another
    >> band, but they said "Might not work where you want it to."
    >>
    >> Rats!
    >>
    >> B~

    >
    > If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek out
    > a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP camera...if it
    > was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my needs.
    >

    N95 would be a quad band GSM EDGE phone and certainly would work fine in any
    of the US GSM networks. N95 also supports 2.1 GHz UMTS which is useless in
    the US.

    GPS would of course work in the US, this Nokia statement is a bit cryptic
    though. Perhaps they mean that the A-GPS positioning has not been approved
    at an appropriate US type approval body for E911 purposes (which would not
    mean it does not fulfil those requirements) or then Cingular does not
    support A-GPS.





  7. #7
    B. Peg
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    Re: N95 ?

    > "Ric" wrote:
    > If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek out
    > a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP camera...if it
    > was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my needs.


    What I don't understand is why Nokia has been making 900 MHz phones when the
    Cingular network is 850 MHz (I think that is how it goes). Ever since their
    N90, they have left out the 850 band on their phones (N93, N95,etc.). Seems
    they aren't being too smart in their U.S. marketing, or are trying to force
    Cingular into the 900 band (like that would happen!). The Cingular sales
    rep said good luck and that was about it. He said they will not carry all
    the Nokia phones (new models?) and only phones that will give the "best"
    service on their network.

    So far, I haven't seen any U.S. carrier selling the newer N-series on their
    sites. You can buy them (unlocked), but you may lose some connectivity
    channels.

    Just too weird!

    B~





  8. #8
    Me
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    Re: N95 ?

    "B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >> "Ric" wrote:
    >> If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek
    >> out a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP camera...if
    >> it was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my needs.

    >
    > What I don't understand is why Nokia has been making 900 MHz phones when
    > the Cingular network is 850 MHz (I think that is how it goes). Ever since
    > their N90, they have left out the 850 band on their phones (N93,
    > N95,etc.). Seems they aren't being too smart in their U.S. marketing, or
    > are trying to force Cingular into the 900 band (like that would happen!).
    > The Cingular sales rep said good luck and that was about it. He said they
    > will not carry all the Nokia phones (new models?) and only phones that
    > will give the "best" service on their network.
    >
    > So far, I haven't seen any U.S. carrier selling the newer N-series on
    > their sites. You can buy them (unlocked), but you may lose some
    > connectivity channels.
    >
    > Just too weird!
    >
    > B~
    >

    The lack of 850 comes from the fact that those phones are intended to Europe
    (and almost the rest of the world, excluding the US, Canada, some
    South-American markets etc.). The N-series capabilities do not get fully
    exploited on operator branded (crippled) models. N-series phones come from
    the multimedia division of Nokia and they sell only a limited amount of
    phones directly to operators, I assume because they don't want to accept all
    the restrictions that operator branding introduces. Nokia certainly has a
    number of 850-capable phones too, this normally means support for 850 and
    1900 or triple band 850/1800/1900 support.

    US-operators are stronger than anyone else controlling their handset
    population. Also the US sales of GSM phones is relatively low in numbers, if
    the market was not politically as important as it is, you wouldn't see even
    this many phone models (or then the prices would go high and you would see
    even more to choose from).

    This claim that "you may lose some connectivity channels" was interesting, I
    cannot figure out what this could mean, can you explain more? Normally it
    would be the opposite, here I mean restricted phone features and network
    services (allowed/supported access points etc.).





  9. #9
    Ric
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    Re: N95 ?


    "Me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >>> "Ric" wrote:
    >>> If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll seek
    >>> out a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP
    >>> camera...if it was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my
    >>> needs.

    >>
    >> What I don't understand is why Nokia has been making 900 MHz phones when
    >> the Cingular network is 850 MHz (I think that is how it goes). Ever
    >> since their N90, they have left out the 850 band on their phones (N93,
    >> N95,etc.). Seems they aren't being too smart in their U.S. marketing, or
    >> are trying to force Cingular into the 900 band (like that would happen!).
    >> The Cingular sales rep said good luck and that was about it. He said
    >> they will not carry all the Nokia phones (new models?) and only phones
    >> that will give the "best" service on their network.
    >>
    >> So far, I haven't seen any U.S. carrier selling the newer N-series on
    >> their sites. You can buy them (unlocked), but you may lose some
    >> connectivity channels.
    >>
    >> Just too weird!
    >>
    >> B~
    >>

    > The lack of 850 comes from the fact that those phones are intended to
    > Europe (and almost the rest of the world, excluding the US, Canada, some
    > South-American markets etc.). The N-series capabilities do not get fully
    > exploited on operator branded (crippled) models. N-series phones come from
    > the multimedia division of Nokia and they sell only a limited amount of
    > phones directly to operators, I assume because they don't want to accept
    > all the restrictions that operator branding introduces. Nokia certainly
    > has a number of 850-capable phones too, this normally means support for
    > 850 and 1900 or triple band 850/1800/1900 support.
    >
    > US-operators are stronger than anyone else controlling their handset
    > population. Also the US sales of GSM phones is relatively low in numbers,
    > if the market was not politically as important as it is, you wouldn't see
    > even this many phone models (or then the prices would go high and you
    > would see even more to choose from).
    >
    > This claim that "you may lose some connectivity channels" was interesting,
    > I cannot figure out what this could mean, can you explain more? Normally
    > it would be the opposite, here I mean restricted phone features and
    > network services (allowed/supported access points etc.).


    I would almost prefer to buy an unbranded, unlocked phone even though it
    would cost a lot more without the provider subsidy. I'm sick and tired of
    phones with crippled capabilities the providers want to prevent you from
    using.
    >
    >






  10. #10
    For example: John Smith
    Guest

    Re: N95 ?

    Why TF did Cingular opt for 850 instead of 900 in the first place ?
    America took up cellphones long after Europe, so why not set up on the same
    900 and 1800 freq.s ?
    There has to be a reason .... doesn't there ?

    B. Peg wrote:
    >> "Ric" wrote:
    >> If there's any way to get it to work with Cingulars network, I'll
    >> seek out a source outside of the States. Integrated GPS and a 5 MP
    >> camera...if it was flip style smartphone, it would be perfect for my
    >> needs.

    >
    > What I don't understand is why Nokia has been making 900 MHz phones
    > when the Cingular network is 850 MHz (I think that is how it goes). Ever
    > since their N90, they have left out the 850 band on their phones
    > (N93, N95,etc.). Seems they aren't being too smart in their U.S.
    > marketing, or are trying to force Cingular into the 900 band (like
    > that would happen!). The Cingular sales rep said good luck and that
    > was about it. He said they will not carry all the Nokia phones (new
    > models?) and only phones that will give the "best" service on their
    > network.
    > So far, I haven't seen any U.S. carrier selling the newer N-series on
    > their sites. You can buy them (unlocked), but you may lose some
    > connectivity channels.
    >
    > Just too weird!
    >
    > B~






  11. #11
    BT News
    Guest

    Re: N95 ?

    For example: John Smith wrote:
    > Why TF did Cingular opt for 850 instead of 900 in the first place ?
    > America took up cellphones long after Europe, so why not set up on the same
    > 900 and 1800 freq.s ?
    > There has to be a reason .... doesn't there ?
    >


    Because the freq used elsewhere are already in use in the US (I believe
    for military purposes)



  12. #12
    Michael Paris
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    Re: N95 ?


    The US didn't take up cellular phones after europe, they took up gsm later
    then europe, much later. Big difference.

    And btw the N75 does support the 850 frequency and is going to be sold by
    Cingular, still won't hold my breath when they do actually get it.





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