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  1. #1
    Barry L. Bond
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    Greetings!

    My mother and I both have Nokia 5165 TDMA phones, which were
    purchased in 2001, and have been working just fine for us! And, we use
    them primarily for emergency use only, though we want and do use them for
    an occasional "regular" call.

    We are currently using ecallplus.com, and prepaid cellular cards.

    TDMA will no longer be supported by Cingular after March of next
    year.

    Things I'm reading indicate that we should use a phone from the
    carrier. However, the two phones I see ecallplus offering are Siemens and
    NEC.

    We were originally thinking we'd want Nokia, especially if we could
    use our existing cell phone chargers and battery chargers.

    However, looking on the Nokia web site, I see, carrier Cellular, the
    GSM 850/1900 phones.

    This is truly a minor concern, but I'm just curious, because we'll be
    wanting to get new phones as inexpensively (aka cheaply) as possible! :-)

    I was thinking a definite "no" for both, battery and cell phone
    chargers, for a new Nokia phone compared to a six+ year old Nokia phone.

    However, looking on here, it appears that an adapter may be
    available, and we would possibly be able to use our existing cell phone
    chargers with a potential new Nokia phone? (These plug in, via a
    round connector, to the bottom of the phones.)

    But, I'm not expecting batteries or battery chargers to be the same.
    So, would we very likely need new battery chargers, but possibly not new
    cell phone chargers?

    We're in Orlando, FL.

    Thank you!

    Barry
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    Software Engineer, ITT Corporation | (My personal home web page, last
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  2. #2
    J.O. Aho
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    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone andbattery chargers?

    Barry L. Bond wrote:

    > I was thinking a definite "no" for both, battery and cell phone
    > chargers, for a new Nokia phone compared to a six+ year old Nokia phone.


    Batteries are a no.
    The charger depends on, there are two models of chargers, the older with the
    3mm pin and the newer with the 2mm pin and the main difference is just the pin
    size, you can get a "3mm pin to 2mm pin" converter/adapter for a few bucks.


    > However, looking on here, it appears that an adapter may be
    > available, and we would possibly be able to use our existing cell phone
    > chargers with a potential new Nokia phone? (These plug in, via a
    > round connector, to the bottom of the phones.)


    You may need the converter, but that depends on how new the models is, if it's
    one of those released during this year (check nokia.com) then it's with a 2mm
    pin and requires a converter, if it's an older model, then it's more likely
    that the old charger works without the converter.

    But you should get a charger with each phone.



    --

    //Aho



  3. #3
    Barry L. Bond
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    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone andbattery chargers?


    Thank you very much for your fast reply!

    >You may need the converter, but that depends on how new the models is, if it's
    >one of those released during this year (check nokia.com) then it's with a 2mm
    >pin and requires a converter, if it's an older model, then it's more likely
    >that the old charger works without the converter.


    >But you should get a charger with each phone.


    You're right. If batteries are different, we'll be getting new
    battery chargers, anyway (one way or the other) if we want to be able to
    charge batteries other than by the phone charger. And, yes, chargers for
    the phone do come with the phones.

    We likely will just wind up getting phones provided by the provider,
    to be certain they work.

    Thank you very much for your assistance!

    Barry
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    Barry L. Bond | http://home.cfl.rr.com/os9barry/
    Software Engineer, ITT Corporation | (My personal home web page, last
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  4. #4
    Me
    Guest

    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone and battery chargers?

    "Barry L. Bond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > Thank you very much for your fast reply!
    >
    >>You may need the converter, but that depends on how new the models is, if
    >>it's
    >>one of those released during this year (check nokia.com) then it's with a
    >>2mm
    >>pin and requires a converter, if it's an older model, then it's more
    >>likely
    >>that the old charger works without the converter.

    >
    >>But you should get a charger with each phone.

    >
    > You're right. If batteries are different, we'll be getting new
    > battery chargers, anyway (one way or the other) if we want to be able to
    > charge batteries other than by the phone charger. And, yes, chargers for
    > the phone do come with the phones.
    >
    > We likely will just wind up getting phones provided by the provider,
    > to be certain they work.
    >
    > Thank you very much for your assistance!
    >
    > Barry
    >


    I don't get this separate battery charger idea, specifically when you
    mention the phones being mainly for "emergency purposes".

    Modern GSM phones survive several days with a single charge, specifically if
    you really do not use them (play games etc.). Also they use Li-Ion batteries
    which do not need conditioning (by discharging). Put the phone to a charger
    every few days and that should be sufficient. If you want to have a spare
    battery charged, charge it on the phone. Li-Ion batteries have very low
    self-discharge current and the spare battery does not need to be charged
    often.

    There is a separate battery stand available for Nokia batteries but I have
    never seen anybody using one.





  5. #5
    J.O. Aho
    Guest

    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone andbattery chargers?

    Me wrote:

    > There is a separate battery stand available for Nokia batteries but I have
    > never seen anybody using one.


    One reason that I see why people don't anymore use battery chargers are that
    it's more work to change a battery on the new phones than it was in those
    older ones like the 61xx, where the battery is a part of the back hatch.


    --

    //Aho



  6. #6
    Barry L. Bond
    Guest

    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone and battery chargers?


    >I don't get this separate battery charger idea, specifically when you
    >mention the phones being mainly for "emergency purposes".


    Well, while they're for "emergency purposes", we both do use our
    phones at least once a month, according to ecallplus.com requirements.

    (My mother calls her sister, who lives in Cincinnati, OH, because
    it's really not "long distance" via the cell phones, but it is from our
    landline phone.)

    And, my mother uses her vehicle so little, charging her phone in her
    vehicle would seriously take a while! She only goes one place, once a
    week, and she's typically there within ten minutes. And, on the weekend,
    it's used, briefly. We typically go a couple places, on the weekend.

    Now, it would be quite possible for me! I have about a 1 hour and
    ten minute, one way, commute to where I work. So, I am driving my car
    about two and a half hours every work day. :-)

    It may be "habit"... we both like the idea of being able to charge
    our spare phone batteries in the A/C house chargers we have, for our
    current Nokia batteries.

    Barry
    --
    Barry L. Bond | http://home.cfl.rr.com/os9barry/
    Software Engineer, ITT Corporation | (My personal home web page, last
    bbondATcfl.rr.com | updated February 17, 2005)



  7. #7
    Me
    Guest

    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone and battery chargers?

    "Barry L. Bond" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >>I don't get this separate battery charger idea, specifically when you
    >>mention the phones being mainly for "emergency purposes".

    >
    > Well, while they're for "emergency purposes", we both do use our
    > phones at least once a month, according to ecallplus.com requirements.
    >
    > (My mother calls her sister, who lives in Cincinnati, OH, because
    > it's really not "long distance" via the cell phones, but it is from our
    > landline phone.)
    >
    > And, my mother uses her vehicle so little, charging her phone in her
    > vehicle would seriously take a while! She only goes one place, once a
    > week, and she's typically there within ten minutes. And, on the weekend,
    > it's used, briefly. We typically go a couple places, on the weekend.
    >
    > Now, it would be quite possible for me! I have about a 1 hour and
    > ten minute, one way, commute to where I work. So, I am driving my car
    > about two and a half hours every work day. :-)
    >
    > It may be "habit"... we both like the idea of being able to charge
    > our spare phone batteries in the A/C house chargers we have, for our
    > current Nokia batteries.
    >
    > Barry
    > --
    > Barry L. Bond | http://home.cfl.rr.com/os9barry/
    > Software Engineer, ITT Corporation | (My personal home web page, last
    > bbondATcfl.rr.com | updated February 17, 2005)


    I was not clear no my point. Of course one should have an AC charger at
    home. The car charger might not be needed.

    But I thought you wanted to be able to charge a spare battery in a separate
    battery stand, without the phone at all.
    This was common in the early days when the battery hardly lasted for a day,
    even if the phone was not used for calls. The second battery could be
    charged while the phone was used with another battery. Now with modern
    phones it should be quite sufficient even if the battery can only be charged
    when it is installed on the phone.

    A table stand for the phone may be handy too, but this is not what I was
    assuming you were after. Perhaps I misunderstood your interest for a
    standalone battery charger (one that would be independent of the phone).





  8. #8

    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone and battery chargers?

    On 31 Dec 2006 00:45:25 GMT, [email protected] (Barry L. Bond) wrote
    this with the utmost thought:

    >
    >>I don't get this separate battery charger idea, specifically when you
    >>mention the phones being mainly for "emergency purposes".

    >
    > Well, while they're for "emergency purposes", we both do use our
    >phones at least once a month, according to ecallplus.com requirements.
    >
    > (My mother calls her sister, who lives in Cincinnati, OH, because
    >it's really not "long distance" via the cell phones, but it is from our
    >landline phone.)


    > And, my mother uses her vehicle so little, charging her phone in her
    >vehicle would seriously take a while! She only goes one place, once a
    >week, and she's typically there within ten minutes. And, on the weekend,
    >it's used, briefly. We typically go a couple places, on the weekend.
    >
    > Now, it would be quite possible for me! I have about a 1 hour and
    >ten minute, one way, commute to where I work. So, I am driving my car
    >about two and a half hours every work day. :-)
    >
    > It may be "habit"... we both like the idea of being able to charge
    >our spare phone batteries in the A/C house chargers we have, for our
    >current Nokia batteries.


    I'm not in the US so I could fall well foul of my comments here but:

    A 6 year old 'phone that you've become attached to really should be resigned
    to a recycling centre. Mobiles have changed so much in that time that you
    really will appreciate the benefits of a newer model (Battery life, 'phone
    functions, size). I wouldn't even consider finding a 'phone to re-use
    chargers with; just go for a clean break.

    You may have to pay more for your monthly/yearly service but may get more
    call benefits to make using your 'phones less "emergency" and more
    "convenience".

    If you prefer/only want pre-pay then perhaps Tracfone is an option though I
    have absolutley no idea what their service is like in Orlando?

    Check out which providers give good service in the areas you normally
    frequent and then do a price comparison on their service lists. You may
    have to pay a bit more than you originally intended but if the existing
    option is no mobile service, then what's the cheapest/best cost of the next
    option?



  9. #9
    Barry L. Bond
    Guest

    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone and battery chargers?


    Hi again! :-)

    >I was not clear no my point. Of course one should have an AC charger at
    >home. The car charger might not be needed.


    >But I thought you wanted to be able to charge a spare battery in a separate
    >battery stand, without the phone at all.
    >This was common in the early days when the battery hardly lasted for a day,
    >even if the phone was not used for calls. The second battery could be
    >charged while the phone was used with another battery. Now with modern
    >phones it should be quite sufficient even if the battery can only be charged
    >when it is installed on the phone.


    >A table stand for the phone may be handy too, but this is not what I was
    >assuming you were after. Perhaps I misunderstood your interest for a
    >standalone battery charger (one that would be independent of the phone).


    No, we do currently have, and was thinking a stand just for a
    battery, in addition to the fact that the battery on the phone can be
    recharged by plugging the phone into a charger. I believe you are
    thinking correctly, interpreting what we intended.

    Is that "old hat?" :-) Now, with newer phones, you should just plug
    the phone into a charger -- even if it is an A/C, house, charger?

    Hey... looking again, just now, it looks like the coverage area for
    CDMA (on ecallplus.com) is very much larger than the GSM. I was thinking
    GSM would be what we would transition to. However, should I consider
    CDMA?

    Or, will CDMA be phased out, like TDMA is about to be?

    Barry
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    Software Engineer, ITT Corporation | (My personal home web page, last
    bbondATcfl.rr.com | updated February 17, 2005)



  10. #10
    Barry L. Bond
    Guest

    Re: Would a new Nokia phone allow use of 6+ year old cell phone and battery chargers?


    >I'm not in the US so I could fall well foul of my comments here but:


    That's okay! Your comments are welcome! :-)

    >A 6 year old 'phone that you've become attached to really should be resigned
    >to a recycling centre. Mobiles have changed so much in that time that you
    >really will appreciate the benefits of a newer model (Battery life, 'phone
    >functions, size). I wouldn't even consider finding a 'phone to re-use
    >chargers with; just go for a clean break.


    Yes. We've definitely decided that's what we'll be doing.

    >You may have to pay more for your monthly/yearly service but may get more
    >call benefits to make using your 'phones less "emergency" and more
    >"convenience".


    Cell phones are definitely not what my mother would call convenient!
    :-D (She gets dropped every once in a while, the talking "drops in and
    out".) While I understand it, and don't dislike it as much, I do prefer
    my landline phone.

    >If you prefer/only want pre-pay then perhaps Tracfone is an option though I
    >have absolutley no idea what their service is like in Orlando?


    There were some truly emergency only that we decided not to go with,
    because you couldn't place anything but an emergency call on them. We
    both wanted to be able to place a "regular" call on our cell phones, and
    do have need to, just not real frequently. I don't remember whether
    Tracfone was that kind of phone, but I had ruled it out, for some reason.

    >Check out which providers give good service in the areas you normally
    >frequent and then do a price comparison on their service lists. You may
    >have to pay a bit more than you originally intended but if the existing
    >option is no mobile service, then what's the cheapest/best cost of the next
    >option?


    Although I didn't research quite as much now as I did a few years
    ago, ecallplus.com, which was about $6.67 a month, was fine for us. It
    will now be about $9.97 a month. That's okay.

    Thank you for whatever suggestions you render! Getting ideas from
    other people is always a good thing!

    Barry
    --
    Barry L. Bond | http://home.cfl.rr.com/os9barry/
    Software Engineer, ITT Corporation | (My personal home web page, last
    bbondATcfl.rr.com | updated February 17, 2005)



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