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  1. #1
    Jolly Joker
    Guest
    Hi to everybody!
    Where can I buy a dual SIM connector (a hopefully general one,
    mandatorily "NO CUT")?
    Thanks!
    A.




    See More: Dual SIM connector




  2. #2

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    On 15 Aug, 16:44, Jolly Joker <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Hi to everybody!
    > Where can I buy a dual SIM connector (a hopefully general one,
    > mandatorily "NO CUT")?
    > Thanks!
    > A.


    there are hundreds on ebay, usually from hong kong




  3. #3
    Martin²
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    >there are hundreds on ebay, usually from hong kong

    and they don't work !





  4. #4
    Gaz
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    Hi
    Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim cards,
    but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    Mine works perfectly.
    BB





  5. #5
    Chris Blunt
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Hi
    > Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim cards,
    >but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    >Mine works perfectly.


    Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?

    I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?

    Chris



  6. #6
    BORG
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:21:16 +0800, Chris Blunt wrote:

    > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Hi
    >> Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim cards,
    >>but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    >>Mine works perfectly.

    >
    > Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?
    >
    > I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    > When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    > it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    > have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?
    >
    > Chris


    Yes



  7. #7
    Michael J
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector


    "Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Hi
    >> Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim cards,
    >>but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    >>Mine works perfectly.

    >
    > Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?


    Yes. It's called USIM.

    > I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    > When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    > it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    > have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?


    Yes, all the 3G ones

    >
    > Chris






  8. #8
    Benedict Addis
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector


    "Michael J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]com...
    >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Hi
    >>> Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim
    >>> cards,
    >>>but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    >>>Mine works perfectly.

    >>
    >> Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?

    >
    > Yes. It's called USIM.
    >
    >> I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    >> When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    >> it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    >> have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?

    >
    > Yes, all the 3G ones


    Only on 3, Orange and o2, who require a special SIM card called a USIM to
    access 3G services. Voda allow access to 3G services from a normal SIM card.

    Benedict.





  9. #9
    mrripcurl
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    On Aug 17, 10:03 pm, "Benedict Addis" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Michael J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > "Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]
    > >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    > >> wrote:

    >
    > >>>Hi
    > >>> Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim
    > >>> cards,
    > >>>but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    > >>>Mine works perfectly.

    >
    > >> Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?

    >
    > > Yes. It's called USIM.

    >
    > >> I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    > >> When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    > >> it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    > >> have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?

    >
    > > Yes, all the 3G ones

    >
    > Only on 3, Orange and o2, who require a special SIM card called a USIM to
    > access 3G services. Voda allow access to 3G services from a normal SIM card.
    >

    Voda's SIM needs to be less than about two years old to handle 3G. If
    you are on Voda check their Support. The forgotten the number it has
    to be higher is 89610300000734 and last time I spoke to them it
    pretty much encompassed most of their new cards since they introduced
    2.5G from memory. Sounds like yours may not handle 3G. Should be able
    to swap and upgrade for free as most telcos will count on you using 3G
    services like video calling for which they can charge you more.




  10. #10
    Chris Blunt
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:28:52 GMT, "Michael J" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Hi
    >>> Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim cards,
    >>>but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    >>>Mine works perfectly.

    >>
    >> Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?

    >
    >Yes. It's called USIM.
    >
    >> I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    >> When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    >> it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    >> have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?

    >
    >Yes, all the 3G ones


    Can you say specifically which ones? I haven't found anything I can't
    do with my old SIM card yet. High-speed data, video calls etc all work
    fine. What am I missing out on?

    Chris



  11. #11
    Jolly Joker
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector



    Chris Blunt wrote:
    >>>I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    >>>When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    >>>it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    >>>have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?

    >>
    >>Yes, all the 3G ones

    >
    >
    > Can you say specifically which ones? I haven't found anything I can't
    > do with my old SIM card yet. High-speed data, video calls etc all work
    > fine. What am I missing out on?
    >
    > Chris

    That sounds interesting... Did you have to cut the SIM? Where have you
    bought it?




  12. #12
    bet no one
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector



    --

    "Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:28:52 GMT, "Michael J" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]
    >>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Hi
    >>>> Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim
    >>>> cards,
    >>>>but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    >>>>Mine works perfectly.
    >>>
    >>> Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?

    >>
    >>Yes. It's called USIM.
    >>
    >>> I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    >>> When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    >>> it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    >>> have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?

    >>
    >>Yes, all the 3G ones

    >
    > Can you say specifically which ones? I haven't found anything I can't
    > do with my old SIM card yet. High-speed data, video calls etc all work
    > fine. What am I missing out on?
    >
    > Chris


    Chris,

    The confusion here comes from the different ways each network uses the SIM
    or USIM.

    From a design point of view the USIM is just a SIM with the first byte in
    every message changed so that future designs may allow a USIM card to be on
    the same card as a loyalty card. I think that this is unlikely ever to
    happen.

    There have also been minor enhancements to the files on the USIM that allow
    more functionality on it compared to the SIM. The most noticable of these
    is a set of files that allow a complex phone book to be on the SIM (has
    number groups, email addresses multiple numbers for the same contact). The
    downside of this is that most SIM phonebook management programs do not work
    with a USIM. (You are unlikely to be missing out on this functionality as
    most phones have their own comprehensive phonebook).

    The services you mention are network services (not SIM services) so work
    equally well with a SIM or a USIM - but only if your network allows this.

    As other posters have said 3, Orange and O2 arbitarily block the use of 3G
    services for customers using a SIM while Vodafone and T-Mobile allow all 3G
    services for customers using a SIM.

    It is possible to have a SIM card that is both a SIM and a USIM. Networks
    like Vodafone issue these cards to be compatible with the widest range of
    handsets posible. This also means that most SIM phone book tools still work
    too.
    An earlier poster suggested that 3G services were only allowed on later
    Vodafone SIMs. This is not strictly true. This is an issue with Voltage
    compatibility. Early SIMs were issued when the standards only allowed for a
    5 Volt SIM interface. 5 or so years ago 3 Volt SIM interface was added.
    New handsets only support the 3 Volt interface so the old 5 Volt cards will
    not work in these handsets.

    There will be a significant change in SIM and USIM cards in about 2 years
    time as the standards bodies have just agreed to make them USB compatible
    and are in the process of agreeing simmilar contactless interfaces to the
    ones used by London Underground and banks.

    Hope this helps,
    Bet





  13. #13
    Chris Blunt
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:05:21 GMT, "bet no one"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >
    >--
    >
    >"Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:28:52 GMT, "Michael J" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>"Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]
    >>>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Hi
    >>>>> Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim
    >>>>> cards,
    >>>>>but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    >>>>>Mine works perfectly.
    >>>>
    >>>> Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?
    >>>
    >>>Yes. It's called USIM.
    >>>
    >>>> I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    >>>> When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    >>>> it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    >>>> have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?
    >>>
    >>>Yes, all the 3G ones

    >>
    >> Can you say specifically which ones? I haven't found anything I can't
    >> do with my old SIM card yet. High-speed data, video calls etc all work
    >> fine. What am I missing out on?
    >>
    >> Chris

    >
    >Chris,
    >
    >The confusion here comes from the different ways each network uses the SIM
    >or USIM.
    >
    >From a design point of view the USIM is just a SIM with the first byte in
    >every message changed so that future designs may allow a USIM card to be on
    >the same card as a loyalty card. I think that this is unlikely ever to
    >happen.
    >
    >There have also been minor enhancements to the files on the USIM that allow
    >more functionality on it compared to the SIM. The most noticable of these
    >is a set of files that allow a complex phone book to be on the SIM (has
    >number groups, email addresses multiple numbers for the same contact). The
    >downside of this is that most SIM phonebook management programs do not work
    >with a USIM. (You are unlikely to be missing out on this functionality as
    >most phones have their own comprehensive phonebook).
    >
    >The services you mention are network services (not SIM services) so work
    >equally well with a SIM or a USIM - but only if your network allows this.
    >
    >As other posters have said 3, Orange and O2 arbitarily block the use of 3G
    >services for customers using a SIM while Vodafone and T-Mobile allow all 3G
    >services for customers using a SIM.
    >
    >It is possible to have a SIM card that is both a SIM and a USIM. Networks
    >like Vodafone issue these cards to be compatible with the widest range of
    >handsets posible. This also means that most SIM phone book tools still work
    >too.
    >An earlier poster suggested that 3G services were only allowed on later
    >Vodafone SIMs. This is not strictly true. This is an issue with Voltage
    >compatibility. Early SIMs were issued when the standards only allowed for a
    >5 Volt SIM interface. 5 or so years ago 3 Volt SIM interface was added.
    >New handsets only support the 3 Volt interface so the old 5 Volt cards will
    >not work in these handsets.
    >
    >There will be a significant change in SIM and USIM cards in about 2 years
    >time as the standards bodies have just agreed to make them USB compatible
    >and are in the process of agreeing simmilar contactless interfaces to the
    >ones used by London Underground and banks.
    >
    >Hope this helps,



    Thanks for the detailed explanation.

    Chris



  14. #14
    Chris Blunt
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector

    On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:48:56 GMT, Jolly Joker <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >
    >Chris Blunt wrote:
    >>>>I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    >>>>When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    >>>>it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    >>>>have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?
    >>>
    >>>Yes, all the 3G ones

    >>
    >>
    >> Can you say specifically which ones? I haven't found anything I can't
    >> do with my old SIM card yet. High-speed data, video calls etc all work
    >> fine. What am I missing out on?
    >>
    >> Chris

    >That sounds interesting... Did you have to cut the SIM? Where have you
    >bought it?


    Its a normal postpaid SIM card issued by Globe Telecom in the
    Philippines. I'm not sure what you mean about cutting the SIM.

    Chris



  15. #15
    Michael J
    Guest

    Re: Dual SIM connector


    "Benedict Addis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Michael J" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >>
    >> "Chris Blunt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:50:24 +1000, "Gaz" <[email protected]>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Hi
    >>>> Yes they are on E-bay but be aware they don't work with 3G sim
    >>>> cards,
    >>>>but they will work with a 3G phone with 2G cards in it.
    >>>>Mine works perfectly.
    >>>
    >>> Is there such a thing as a 3G SIM card?

    >>
    >> Yes. It's called USIM.
    >>
    >>> I've been using the same SIM card for many years in various 2G phones.
    >>> When I recently bought a 3G phone I just put my existing SIM in it and
    >>> it works fine. Are there some functions I'm missing because I don't
    >>> have a 3G SIM card, whatever that is?

    >>
    >> Yes, all the 3G ones

    >
    > Only on 3, Orange and o2, who require a special SIM card called a USIM to
    > access 3G services. Voda allow access to 3G services from a normal SIM
    > card.


    Which means "all" their "normal" SIM cards are USIMs





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