iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> re-posted, and very true...
>
> Apple is a Disruptive Company, A modern day Business Volcano.
>
> From the day of it's creation Apple has been a disruptive force in any
> market it touched. The Apple II disrupted the computer industry by
> creating a personal computer the average citizen could use. The Mac was
> extremely disruptive in that it allowed the rest of us to actually be
> productive and creative without having to fully understand how computers
> work.
>
> The iPod disrupted the music industry big time. Now comes the iPhone
> doing the same thing to the cellphone industry.
>
> Every time Apple enters a market they turn well established, profitable
> business models into obsolete mush. And the big players don't like it
> one bit.
>
> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> -

Yeah, They were so disruptive that they almost went belly up. If not for
Bill Gates handing them over 100 million.

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The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a **** for business.
Slick interface, not much else.

It "disrupted' very little - if anything.

Pull your head out fanboy!!


"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> re-posted, and very true...
>
> Apple is a Disruptive Company, A modern day Business Volcano.
>
> From the day of it's creation Apple has been a disruptive force in any
> market it touched. The Apple II disrupted the computer industry by
> creating a personal computer the average citizen could use. The Mac was
> extremely disruptive in that it allowed the rest of us to actually be
> productive and creative without having to fully understand how computers
> work.
>
> The iPod disrupted the music industry big time. Now comes the iPhone
> doing the same thing to the cellphone industry.
>
> Every time Apple enters a market they turn well established, profitable
> business models into obsolete mush. And the big players don't like it
> one bit.
>
> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> -

The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a **** for business.

And, by your comments, I see you certainly aren't in business.
I doubt you've ever used a spreadsheet - or you wouldn't have made
such an asinine comment.

Pull your head out fanboy!


"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>
> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>
> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> Get with the program!

In article <[email protected]>,
George <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oxford wrote:
> > George <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> >>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
> >>>
> >>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
> >>>
> >>> -
> >> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
> >> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
> >> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
> >> display your position and route?
> >
> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
> >
>
> Yes, really.
>
> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
> >
> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
> >
>
> Thats OK, I think the "old" concepts will be around for awhile...
>
>
> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
> >
> > Get with the program!
>
> So you agree that your entertainment only iphone isn't really suitable
> for business use?

I use it for my business. Sold my Treo because this trumped it in every
way. Far easier to use and do business with.

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I certainly did play with it and have used one, nice toy for sure.
(REALLY STUPID not to have an exchangeable battery)

But I am in business and it certainly isn't a business tool.

Pull your head out fanboy!


"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Steve Mackay <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>> >
>> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
>> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>>
>> Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
>> particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
>> phone.
>
> You clearly don't use an iPhone day to day do you? I do and have a
> non-biased report on the actual device.
>
> If you don't have an iPhone, there is no way you can comment on this
> subject.
>
>> It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
>> Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.
>
> Actually, in real world use. The iPhone is like touching all data that
> is connected to the planet, it's pretty cool once you start using it.
> Far better screen resolution than the Nokia, they don't even have
> anything in their future labs remotely close to it. At this point, Nokia
> is a gonner I'm afraid. Can you say Sperry?
>
>> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
>> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
>> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>> >
>> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>> >
>> > Get with the program!
>>
>> I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
>> their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>
>
> The Apple // created the first spreadsheet, that's a fact. Hard to say
> what the first killer app on the iPhone will be, but it's assured nobody
> else will have access to it since they don't have access to quality cell
> phone hardware.
>
> -

In article <[email protected]>,
"Ness_net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a **** for business.
>
> And, by your comments, I see you certainly aren't in business.
> I doubt you've ever used a spreadsheet - or you wouldn't have made
> such an asinine comment.
>
> Pull your head out fanboy!
>
yes a spreadsheet with 1 pt type. You do real efficient "business"
trying to work with that.

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Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just don't
> > have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
> >
>
> You'd better hope not! Apple runs on MOTOROLA PROCESSORS!
>
> Larry

Good Lord Larry! Where have you been over the last 2 years? Apple runs
only on Intel processors for their Macs and the iPhone uses an Apple
branded Samsung ARM as the processor.

Apple hasn't used Motorola processors for what 4-5 years?

But thanks for playing!

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On Sep 4, 4:06 pm, George <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oxford wrote:
> > George <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> >>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> >>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> >>> -
> >> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
> >> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
> >> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
> >> display your position and route?
>
> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>
> Yes, really.
>
> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>
> Thats OK, I think the "old" concepts will be around for awhile...
>
> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> > Get with the program!
>
> So you agree that your entertainment only iphone isn't really suitable
> for business use?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....

http://docs.google.com

KDT <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
>
> http://docs.googl

interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...

Moron can't even post a link....
Yet, you snipe at others about being new...


"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> KDT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
>>
>> http://docs.googl
>
> interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...

At 04 Sep 2007 18:16:27 -0700 Kurt wrote:

> yes a spreadsheet with 1 pt type. You do real efficient "business"
> trying to work with that.


I always find it interesting when someone complains about screen size
and resolution on modern smartphones. Sure it isn't a 1084x768 17"
display, but 320x240 and 640x480 were both desktop standards not too
many years sgo. I find Excel no more difficult to use on my PPC
screen than Lotus 1-2-3 or Multiplan were on my ancient CGA displays
years ago.

A PDA/smartphone is a technological Swiss Army Knife. A very useful
collection of tools in a compact, easy to carry package. Sure, any
one of those tools pales in comparison to it's full-sized/full-
featured equivalent, but that's hardly the point, is it? No one
who's ever used the screwdriver or scissors on a Swiss Army knife
prefered it over using a real screwdriver or a real pair of scissors.
The point is that I essentially have the most important capabilities
of a low-end laptop in a device the size of a deck of cards, and,
more importantly, like the knife, I have it EVERYWHERE, unlike a pair
of scissors, screwdriver, or a laptop!

Unlike a prior poster, I won't claim you can't possibly use your
iPhone for business- but I'll guess that your business uses do not
require much more than e-mail, web access and telephony. If so,
fine. But some of us need more, and need it even when the cell
network is unavailable (docs.google.com? Google Maps? Surrre...)

That's why I find the iPhone so disappointing. It's an impressive
piece of hardware hampered by an extremely foolish (greedy?) business
plan. Third-party developers have done amazing things with the iPod.
If given "official" access to the iPhone, these and other 3rd-party
developers would've likely already turned the iPhone into a real
business-class device that'd give RIM, Symbian and MS a run for their
money. As it stands now, it's an iPod phone with webtablet, (and a
darn spiffy one!) A tremendous waste of excellent equipment.




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"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003

This is 'alt.cellular.verizon', not 'alt.iphone.slobbering.fanboys'

At 04 Sep 2007 20:19:02 -0600 Oxford wrote:

> > Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
> >
> > http://docs.googl
>
> interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...


As does your ability to edit or even view those documents when you
wander out of wi-fi and cellular range...

I wouldn't brag about the iPhone's ability to use web-based services
when it only illustates what on-board services it lacks. It's like
saying an FM radio is superior to an iPod because the radio's "random
playlist" is infinite! ;-)


--

"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003

In article
<[email protected]>,
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just don't
> > > have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
> > >
> >
> > You'd better hope not! Apple runs on MOTOROLA PROCESSORS!
> >
> > Larry
>
> Good Lord Larry! Where have you been over the last 2 years? Apple runs
> only on Intel processors for their Macs and the iPhone uses an Apple
> branded Samsung ARM as the processor.
>
> Apple hasn't used Motorola processors for what 4-5 years?
>
> But thanks for playing!
>
> -

Actually, more like 2 years, as I recall. The last Powerbooks and iBooks
used G4 processors, made by Freestyle (OK, that wasn't Moto, it was spun
off by Moto).

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Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI

David Fritzinger <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Good Lord Larry! Where have you been over the last 2 years? Apple runs
> > only on Intel processors for their Macs and the iPhone uses an Apple
> > branded Samsung ARM as the processor.
> >
> > Apple hasn't used Motorola processors for what 4-5 years?
> >
> > But thanks for playing!
> >
> > -
>
> Actually, more like 2 years, as I recall. The last Powerbooks and iBooks
> used G4 processors, made by Freestyle (OK, that wasn't Moto, it was spun
> off by Moto).

Good point... yeah, I was thinking of the G5's only being made by IBM.
and yes, Freescale/MOT is basically the same thing. I stand corrected.