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- 09-05-2007, 01:21 PM #61TinmanGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
"Tinman" wrote:
>
> I am hoping they release a 16 GB model for $499. If so I'd buy it and give
> my 8 GB to my wife. Actually, I might still buy another 8 GB if I can get
> it cheaper than $399 (refurb).
Or I might get a left-over 4 GB model for the wife. Seems like they are
being blown out at $299, or less (the 4 GB iPhone has been discontinued).
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- 09-05-2007, 01:43 PM #62TinmanGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:18:24 -0700, "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I am hoping they release a 16 GB model for $499. If so I'd buy it and give
>>my 8 GB to my wife. Actually, I might still buy another 8 GB if I can get
>>it
>>cheaper than $399 (refurb).
>
>
> The 4 Gig model is discontinued. Apparently some Apple stores have
> better than $399 prices on any remaining stock.
They better do better than $399! The price of remaining 4 GB iPhones is
already $299 at the online Apple Store.
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- 09-05-2007, 02:03 PM #63Todd AllcockGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
At 05 Sep 2007 13:12:05 -0600 Oxford wrote:
> The 8GB iPhone at $399... *****s the END of many a cell handset
maker...
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
Am I forced to be the naysayer again?
Could it just possibly be that the only way they could sell the
million phones they promised to sell by Sept. 30 was to gut the price?
Yeah, I know, it's all part of the "Apple Masterplan..."
I appreciate the loyalty we've seen thrown around here, but in't
anyone angry that the $500-600 phone they bought less than two months
ago just dropped $200?
Does Apple/AT&T offer a thirty-day price protection? Many of you
might want to take advantage of it.
I know Apple is soooo different from all of those bourgeois
technology companies, but generally a price drop so quickly after a
product introduction is because of less than expected sales, or
"dumping" prior to a new model introduction (Personally, I suspect
the latter- Apple will likely introduce a 3G model shortly- there's
no way they can try and fob off an EDGE handset in Europe. Heck,
much of Europe leap-frogged right past EDGE into 3G, meaning the
first-gen iPhone will connect at a whopping 40k across much of
Europe!)
The pricing's getting closer- I'll take one to play with at $199!
Maybe the "masterplan" will allow that price point in another 60
days! ;-)
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or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003
- 09-05-2007, 02:24 PM #64KurtGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
In article <[email protected]>, "Tinman" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Tinman" wrote:
> >
> > I am hoping they release a 16 GB model for $499. If so I'd buy it and give
> > my 8 GB to my wife. Actually, I might still buy another 8 GB if I can get
> > it cheaper than $399 (refurb).
>
> Or I might get a left-over 4 GB model for the wife. Seems like they are
> being blown out at $299, or less (the 4 GB iPhone has been discontinued).
I chose a 4 gig over an 8 because I already have an 80 gig iPod. Don't
need all the added memory, even for photos.
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- 09-05-2007, 02:59 PM #65SMSGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 05 Sep 2007 13:12:05 -0600 Oxford wrote:
>
>
>> The 8GB iPhone at $399... *****s the END of many a cell handset
> maker...
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
>
> Am I forced to be the naysayer again?
>
> Could it just possibly be that the only way they could sell the
> million phones they promised to sell by Sept. 30 was to gut the price?
<snip>
According to a news story in the San Jose Mercury, iPhone sales have not
been meeting expectations. There's a lot of margin in that $600 price,
and still plenty of margin in the $400 price. As you stated, the
impending launch of a 3G model may also be a reason for the huge price
drop, but jeez, after only two months?!
In any case, Apple did what they had to do, and making the early
adopters pay dearly for getting the device ahead of the masses is a
popular marketing technique, but once supply is plentiful it doesn't
work anymore if you want to take market penetration to the next level.
At $400 it's very tempting. I'd not sign up with AT&T anyway, but with
T-Mobile on their prepaid plan, so the lack of 3G isn't a big deal at
that price. Free Wi-Fi is pretty pervasive around the San Francisco Bay
Area, and paying occasionally for Wi-Fi in other areas is not a big deal.
- 09-05-2007, 03:18 PM #66LarryGuest
Re: iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
[email protected]:
> Mine has 8GB of storage
Woo woo! 8GB! It's like having a ZIPdrive!
I was talking about storage where PROGRAMS and DRIVERS and OPERATING
stuff goes....not a few MP3 files.
Here's a test so you'll know:
Can it store 25 full length DivX widescreen movies and play them from
software YOU downloaded and installed from a website?
No? It's a toy.
No need to go on. Which DivX player did you install on your iPhone?
Can I install VLC from videolan.org? It plays everything with no BS.
Larry
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- 09-05-2007, 03:21 PM #67LarryGuest
Re: iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July
Steve Mackay <[email protected]> wrote in news:46dec4e1$0$11033
[email protected]:
> What is an iPhone without a web 2.0 server? It's a touch screen ipod
> with a mediocre phone attached to it. Without hacking it, you can't add
> any new functionality to it without being tethered to the web.
>
......which was the whole point in its manufacture in the first place....
SERVER-controlled, revenue generator.....
Larry
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- 09-05-2007, 03:24 PM #68SMSGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
George Graves wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:24:11 -0700, Kurt wrote
> (in article <[email protected]>):
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, "Tinman" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Tinman" wrote:
>>>> I am hoping they release a 16 GB model for $499. If so I'd buy it and give
>>>> my 8 GB to my wife. Actually, I might still buy another 8 GB if I can get
>>>> it cheaper than $399 (refurb).
>>> Or I might get a left-over 4 GB model for the wife. Seems like they are
>>> being blown out at $299, or less (the 4 GB iPhone has been discontinued).
>> I chose a 4 gig over an 8 because I already have an 80 gig iPod. Don't
>> need all the added memory, even for photos.
>>
>>
>
> If they'd only included a memory card slot....
8GB is really sufficient unless they were looking at GPS functionality
where a lot of memory is needed for maps. 4GB is a little low
considering the lack of an SD, mini-SD, or Micro-SD slot.
- 09-05-2007, 03:32 PM #69LarryGuest
Re: iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July
Steve Mackay <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>> Face it Steve, you got stuck with a sucky Nokia phone and are JEALOUS
>> of iPhone users. You'll get one in time, don't fret!
>
> If I wanted an iPhone, I'd have one. It's too fragile, can't change
> the battery myself, no GPS, No expense tracking, etc...
>
>
Turning off the flamewar for a second.....
I'm curious as to its MobiTV quality. I'm on Alltel EVDO with 45
channels of MobiTV ($20/mo with unlimited data which also feeds the
browser access $5.99/mo) I love the TV access with my little Moto E815
on Alltel. Hell, it even works in the South Carolina boondocks with full
EVDO!
I stopped to see the iPhone after all the hype and watching some
Californians camp out all night in line for a look at something they
couldn't own. My compliments to the advertising staff at Apple for a job
very well done, like the iPod, a mediocre music player. You're doing it
right!
The "line" at our ATT store lasted about an hour, so they told me, but I
showed up at 10AM and noone was looking at the 3 demo units, and, of
course, nothing was for sale with the "holdbacks" trying, in vain it
seems, to hold the price to full retail. The ATT guy was very nice but
refused, for some reason, to load MobiTV on a demo unit so I could see it
play on the big screen. He, curiously, also had no movies or even
trailers to show me, just the webpage any phone will render, even mine.
Have any of you seen MobiTV from ATT on the iPhone? Does it play under
OSX? I think ATT only lets you watch 6 channels and charges like hell
for it, much more than $20/month I'm paying with unlimited data for it.
I'd like a pocket TV/phone with that sized screen, instead of the tiny
screen I'm watching, now....THAT part would be most interesting with a
big MobiTV package and no restrictions.
Larry
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- 09-05-2007, 03:36 PM #70LarryGuest
Re: iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July
"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> With all of the
> modding I have done my iPhone is still 10x more stable than my Palm OS
> Treo--and any WinMob device I've owned too.
>
"modding"....What hacking are you doing? WM5 really sucks, I fully
agree. I had a Dell x51v that crashed 8-10 times a day, even when it was
doing nothing! I returned it for refund. It was awful. I DO still
carry my old Palm OS PDA I have to charge twice a month, whether it needs
it or not. I think the two clock programs making the audio chime/etc.,
use up the battery when it's "off", which it never is.
I've never seen anything as stable as a Palm OS PDA (not phone) that's
never crashed in 7 years. That's pretty stable....(c;
Larry
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- 09-05-2007, 04:39 PM #71Tim AdamsGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
In article <[email protected]>,
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> Todd Allcock wrote:
> > At 05 Sep 2007 13:12:05 -0600 Oxford wrote:
> >
> >
> >> The 8GB iPhone at $399... *****s the END of many a cell handset
> > maker...
> >> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >
> >
> > Am I forced to be the naysayer again?
> >
> > Could it just possibly be that the only way they could sell the
> > million phones they promised to sell by Sept. 30 was to gut the price?
>
> <snip>
>
> According to a news story in the San Jose Mercury, iPhone sales have not
> been meeting expectations.
That just doesn't make any sense, since (IIRC) Apple had announced plans to sell
1 million iPhones by the end of the year and they announced today that they
expect to reach that goal this month.
> There's a lot of margin in that $600 price,
> and still plenty of margin in the $400 price. As you stated, the
> impending launch of a 3G model may also be a reason for the huge price
> drop, but jeez, after only two months?!
>
> In any case, Apple did what they had to do, and making the early
> adopters pay dearly for getting the device ahead of the masses is a
> popular marketing technique, but once supply is plentiful it doesn't
> work anymore if you want to take market penetration to the next level.
>
> At $400 it's very tempting. I'd not sign up with AT&T anyway, but with
> T-Mobile on their prepaid plan, so the lack of 3G isn't a big deal at
> that price. Free Wi-Fi is pretty pervasive around the San Francisco Bay
> Area, and paying occasionally for Wi-Fi in other areas is not a big deal.
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- 09-05-2007, 05:07 PM #72SMSGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
Tim Adams wrote:
> That just doesn't make any sense, since (IIRC) Apple had announced plans to sell
> 1 million iPhones by the end of the year and they announced today that they
> expect to reach that goal this month.
Lots of companies intentionally set their sales target goals at levels
that they know they can easily reach, while privately planning and
hoping to far exceed those goals. It's an especially big problem when
you gear up production to levels that your pricing model doesn't
support. With the iPhone Apple played it safe, setting the initial price
at a high level with plenty of wiggle room to cut prices to boost volumes.
I think why you see so many angry early adopters is because no one
expected the prices to fall so dramatically after only two months. If it
was six months and $100, then it's easier to rationalize it, but clearly
drastic steps were needed and that's what happened.
- 09-05-2007, 05:43 PM #73Gene JonesGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> Once again, we're looking at a REVENUE machine for Apple and ATT, not a
> convenient device for the users. If it had a memory card slot, you'd
> want to put your pictures/music/ringtones/videos...all that stuff we're
> going to SELL you...on the memory card out of your PC and into the
> iPhone...bypassing the money machine!
>
> That isn't gonna happen. This is a CELLPHONE, read that HOBBLED. The
> hobbling is built right in...so you MUST use the "service", not your PC-
> to-iPhone-direct-without-paying-us-ransom.
>
> It's really too bad it doesn't have PORTS and STORAGE and ACCESS outside
> the cellphone company's money machine. It's a nice unit, but it's
> HOBBLED, as usual for a cellphone device.
Larry, your ignorance on how the iPhone works is showing again.
If you look at the bottom of any iPhone or iPod, you'll see a port, it
connects to terabytes of data, and syncs to it too! No need for a 1990's
memory slot when you have FULL access to large data storage devices like
on your Mac or PC.
All for FREE... no Cell Company is even involved... Kinda cool!
Someday you'll get an iPhone and see what everyone is so excited about.
You have far more storage ability with an iPhone or iPod than you to
with a typical smartphone, all for free! Damn COOL!
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- 09-05-2007, 05:44 PM #74Gene JonesGuest
Re: 8 GB iPhone now $399!
George Graves <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I chose a 4 gig over an 8 because I already have an 80 gig iPod. Don't
> > need all the added memory, even for photos.
> >
> >
>
> If they'd only included a memory card slot....
or a Floppy Drive! how stupid!
- 09-05-2007, 06:12 PM #75Mark ThompsonGuest
Re: iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> > What is an iPhone without a web 2.0 server? It's a touch screen ipod
> > with a mediocre phone attached to it. Without hacking it, you can't add
> > any new functionality to it without being tethered to the web.
> >
>
> .....which was the whole point in its manufacture in the first place....
>
> SERVER-controlled, revenue generator.....
ah, but the iPhone gives unlimited data for a single price Larry, Apple
is very against "revenue" generation schemes.
are you talking about something other than the iPhone? it appears so.
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