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  1. #1
    Bill Gates
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    Major news which could very well ***** the end of Noika, Motorola,
    Samsung, LG and on and on... especially within the very non-competitive
    Cell Market. It looks like the iPhone has scored a massive hit, not only
    in record sales but by the people that own the content.

    "Nobody wants to use an "non-ipod" in their Phones, we all know that,
    but now the leading content company says the same thing is going to
    happen to all other MEDIA types."

    Wow!

    From Time Warner's Chief:

    "You need to look no further than Apple's iPhone to see how fast,
    brilliantly written software presented on a beautifully designed device
    with a spectacular user interface will throw all the accepted notions
    about pricing, billing platforms and brand loyalty right out the window.

    And let me remind you, the genesis of the iPhone is the iPod and iTunes
    - a music device and music service that consumers love."

    Quote from --- CEO Edgar Bronfman, Head of Warner Music

    Wow What a SMART GUY!

    The boss of Warner Music has made a rare public confession that the
    music industry has to take some of the blame for the rise of p2p file
    sharing.

    Speaking at the GSMA Mobile Asia Congress in Macau, Edgar Bronfman told
    mobile operators that they must not make the same mistake that the music
    industry made.

    "We used to fool ourselves,' he said. "We used to think our content was
    perfect just exactly as it was. We expected our business would remain
    blissfully unaffected even as the world of interactivity, constant
    connection and file sharing was exploding. And of course we were wrong.
    How were we wrong? By standing still or moving at a glacial pace, we
    inadvertently went to war with consumers by denying them what they
    wanted and could otherwise find and as a result of course, consumers
    won."

    Mobile operators risk the same, he said. Fewer than 10% of mobile owners
    buy music on their handset, the vast majority of which is ringtones.

    "The sad truth is that most of what consumers are being offered today on
    the mobile platform is boring, banal and basic," he said. "People want a
    more interesting form of mobile music content. They want it to be easy
    to buy with a single click - yes, a single click, not a dozen. And they
    want access to it, quickly and easily, wherever they are. 24/7. Any
    player in the mobile value chain who thinks they can provide less than a
    great experience for consumers and remain competitive is fooling
    themselves."

    Bronfman suggested that mobile companies have much to learn from Apple,
    despite being critical of and iTunes in the past.

    "For years now, Warner Music has been offering a choice to consumers at
    Apple's iTunes store the option to purchase something more than just
    single tracks, which constitute the mainstay of that store's sales," he
    explained. "By packaging a full album into a bundle of music with
    ringtones, videos and other combinations and variation we found products
    that consumers demonstrably valued and were willing to purchase at
    premium prices. And guess what? We've sold tons of them. And with
    Apple's co-operation to make discovering, accessing and purchasing these
    products even more seamless and intuitive, we'll be offering many, many
    more of these products going forward."

    And the iPhone and iPod touch shows that approach can be made to work on
    mobile platforms, he said.

    ----

    So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue. Everyone in the industry
    knows that, but it's good to see the Media companies finally waking up
    to the new reality.

    iPods are WONDERFUL, there is exactly zero chance at this point in time
    that anyone will unseat it for the next 30-40 years. It's set in stone.

    http://snipurl.com/1trbv



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  2. #2
    Jon
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    Bill Gates wrote:
    > Major news which could very well ***** the end of Noika, Motorola,
    > Samsung, LG and on and on... especially within the very non-competitive
    > Cell Market. It looks like the iPhone has scored a massive hit, not only
    > in record sales but by the people that own the content.
    >
    > "Nobody wants to use an "non-ipod" in their Phones, we all know that,
    > but now the leading content company says the same thing is going to
    > happen to all other MEDIA types."
    >
    > Wow!
    >
    > From Time Warner's Chief:
    >
    > "You need to look no further than Apple's iPhone to see how fast,
    > brilliantly written software presented on a beautifully designed device
    > with a spectacular user interface will throw all the accepted notions
    > about pricing, billing platforms and brand loyalty right out the window.
    >
    > And let me remind you, the genesis of the iPhone is the iPod and iTunes
    > - a music device and music service that consumers love."
    >
    > Quote from --- CEO Edgar Bronfman, Head of Warner Music
    >
    > Wow What a SMART GUY!
    >
    > The boss of Warner Music has made a rare public confession that the
    > music industry has to take some of the blame for the rise of p2p file
    > sharing.
    >
    > Speaking at the GSMA Mobile Asia Congress in Macau, Edgar Bronfman told
    > mobile operators that they must not make the same mistake that the music
    > industry made.
    >
    > "We used to fool ourselves,' he said. "We used to think our content was
    > perfect just exactly as it was. We expected our business would remain
    > blissfully unaffected even as the world of interactivity, constant
    > connection and file sharing was exploding. And of course we were wrong.
    > How were we wrong? By standing still or moving at a glacial pace, we
    > inadvertently went to war with consumers by denying them what they
    > wanted and could otherwise find and as a result of course, consumers
    > won."
    >
    > Mobile operators risk the same, he said. Fewer than 10% of mobile owners
    > buy music on their handset, the vast majority of which is ringtones.
    >
    > "The sad truth is that most of what consumers are being offered today on
    > the mobile platform is boring, banal and basic," he said. "People want a
    > more interesting form of mobile music content. They want it to be easy
    > to buy with a single click - yes, a single click, not a dozen. And they
    > want access to it, quickly and easily, wherever they are. 24/7. Any
    > player in the mobile value chain who thinks they can provide less than a
    > great experience for consumers and remain competitive is fooling
    > themselves."
    >
    > Bronfman suggested that mobile companies have much to learn from Apple,
    > despite being critical of and iTunes in the past.
    >
    > "For years now, Warner Music has been offering a choice to consumers at
    > Apple's iTunes store the option to purchase something more than just
    > single tracks, which constitute the mainstay of that store's sales," he
    > explained. "By packaging a full album into a bundle of music with
    > ringtones, videos and other combinations and variation we found products
    > that consumers demonstrably valued and were willing to purchase at
    > premium prices. And guess what? We've sold tons of them. And with
    > Apple's co-operation to make discovering, accessing and purchasing these
    > products even more seamless and intuitive, we'll be offering many, many
    > more of these products going forward."
    >
    > And the iPhone and iPod touch shows that approach can be made to work on
    > mobile platforms, he said.
    >
    > ----
    >
    > So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue. Everyone in the industry
    > knows that, but it's good to see the Media companies finally waking up
    > to the new reality.
    >
    > iPods are WONDERFUL, there is exactly zero chance at this point in time
    > that anyone will unseat it for the next 30-40 years. It's set in stone.
    >
    > http://snipurl.com/1trbv

    Please keep the iphail/ipood discussion out of the Verizon, Nokia, and
    Sprint groups, as we don't want anything to do with that crap.



  3. #3
    Ness Net
    Guest

    $#@% - another Oxford sock puppet crapfest


    "Bill Gates" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]

    Anything that is crap is snipped......

    Oops - that leaves nothing left, sorry.




  4. #4
    DTC
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    Bill Gates wrote:
    > "Nobody wants to use an "non-ipod" in their Phones, we all know that,
    > but now the leading content company says the same thing is going to
    > happen to all other MEDIA types."
    >
    > Wow!


    I agree...WOW...how could anyone make such an all encompassing
    outlandish statement.

    > So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue.


    So you're saying that if you don't have pay into iTunes, you won't get
    your music. Golly, and here I always thought MS was the most closed company.



  5. #5
    ChairMan
    Guest

    Re: $#@% - another Oxford sock puppet crapfest

    In news:[email protected],
    Ness Net <[email protected]>spewed forth:
    > "Bill Gates" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    > Anything that is crap is snipped......
    >
    > Oops - that leaves nothing left, sorry.


    please report him then

    [email protected]





  6. #6
    Bill Gates
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    DTC <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue.

    >
    > So you're saying that if you don't have pay into iTunes, you won't get
    > your music. Golly, and here I always thought MS was the most closed company.


    iTunes is free, much of the content on the iTunes Store is 100% free.

    Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit also
    has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.

    SWEET ----->

    http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/



  7. #7
    IMHO IIRC
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    In news:[email protected],
    Bill Gates <[email protected]> typed:
    > DTC <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>> So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue.

    >>
    >> So you're saying that if you don't have pay into iTunes, you won't get
    >> your music. Golly, and here I always thought MS was the most closed
    >> company.

    >
    > iTunes is free, much of the content on the iTunes Store is 100% free.
    >
    > Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit also
    > has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.
    >
    > SWEET ----->
    >
    > http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/



    Music More than 6 million songs. 99 each.
    Movies New and classic films from $9.99.
    Music Videos More than 11,000, $1.99 each.
    TV Shows 600 shows at $1.99 an episode.
    iPod Games $4.99 each. Countless hours of fun.







  8. #8
    Jon
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    Bill Gates wrote:
    > DTC <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>> So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue.

    >> So you're saying that if you don't have pay into iTunes, you won't get
    >> your music. Golly, and here I always thought MS was the most closed company.

    >
    > iTunes is free, much of the content on the iTunes Store is 100% free.
    >
    > Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit also
    > has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.
    >
    > SWEET ----->
    >
    > http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

    iTunes itself is free, songs cost money, iTunes music has DRM protection
    on it.



  9. #9
    Bill Gates
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    Jon <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit also
    > > has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.
    > >
    > > SWEET ----->
    > >
    > > http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

    > iTunes itself is free, songs cost money, iTunes music has DRM protection
    > on it.


    there are a lot of free songs on there, 10,000's of free podcasts,
    videos, audiobooks, college courses, sports, news, radio, etc....

    only some iTunes songs have DRM required by the record companies, but
    plenty of them no longer do.

    itunes has over 6,000,000 songs, the largest online library in the world.

    2,000,000 of them are free of DRM and of higher quality than other music
    stores and just .99 cents.

    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/17itunes.html

    -



  10. #10
    News
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!



    IMHO IIRC wrote:

    >
    > Music More than 6 million songs. 99 each.
    > Movies New and classic films from $9.99.
    > Music Videos More than 11,000, $1.99 each.
    > TV Shows 600 shows at $1.99 an episode.
    > iPod Games $4.99 each. Countless hours of fun.
    >
    >



    KoolAid All the flavors. Free, every day.



  11. #11
    News
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!



    IMHO IIRC wrote:

    >
    > Music More than 6 million songs. 99 each.
    > Movies New and classic films from $9.99.
    > Music Videos More than 11,000, $1.99 each.
    > TV Shows 600 shows at $1.99 an episode.
    > iPod Games $4.99 each. Countless hours of fun.
    >
    >



    700 MHz KoolAid. All the flavors. Free, every day.



  12. #12
    CozmicDebris
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    Bill Gates <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Jon <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit
    >> > also has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.
    >> >
    >> > SWEET ----->
    >> >
    >> > http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

    >> iTunes itself is free, songs cost money, iTunes music has DRM
    >> protection on it.

    >
    > there are a lot of free songs on there, 10,000's of free podcasts,
    > videos, audiobooks, college courses, sports, news, radio, etc....



    Wow- sounds like free radio to me. But let me guess- SI invented that as
    well?

    >
    > only some iTunes songs have DRM required by the record companies, but
    > plenty of them no longer do.
    >
    > itunes has over 6,000,000 songs, the largest online library in the
    > world.


    iTunes has a relevent library of about 100,000 songs, in line with many
    other online providers.

    >
    > 2,000,000 of them are free of DRM and of higher quality than other
    > music stores and just .99 cents.


    Higher quality how?






  13. #13
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    "IMHO IIRC" <[email protected]> wrote in news:Nzu%i.840$mY1.562
    @newsfe24.lga:

    > Music More than 6 million songs. 99 each.
    > Movies New and classic films from $9.99.
    > Music Videos More than 11,000, $1.99 each.
    > TV Shows 600 shows at $1.99 an episode.
    > iPod Games $4.99 each. Countless hours of fun.

    Music - billions of songs. FREE - alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(genre)
    Movies - thousands. FREE - alt.binaries.movies.divx
    Music Videos - FREE alt.binaries.multimedia.(many places)
    TV Shows - FREE alt.binaries.hdtv or alt.binaries.tv.(genre)
    iPod Games - They must be there, somewhere...(c;

    Don't bull**** me and tell me you don't download. If you don't
    download, it's because you don't know how...(c;

    Larry
    --
    Xterm IS the ultimate video game...(c;



  14. #14
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    Bill Gates <[email protected]> wrote in news:im-
    [email protected]:

    > itunes has over 6,000,000 songs, the largest online library in

    the world.
    >


    Not true. USENET has the largest online library in the world.

    Larry
    --
    Xterm IS the ultimate video game...(c;



  15. #15
    Jon
    Guest

    Re: Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

    Bill Gates wrote:
    > Jon <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>> Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit also
    >>> has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.
    >>>
    >>> SWEET ----->
    >>>
    >>> http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

    >> iTunes itself is free, songs cost money, iTunes music has DRM protection
    >> on it.

    >
    > there are a lot of free songs on there, 10,000's of free podcasts,
    > videos, audiobooks, college courses, sports, news, radio, etc....
    >
    > only some iTunes songs have DRM required by the record companies, but
    > plenty of them no longer do.
    >
    > itunes has over 6,000,000 songs, the largest online library in the world.
    >
    > 2,000,000 of them are free of DRM and of higher quality than other music
    > stores and just .99 cents.
    >
    > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/17itunes.html
    >
    > -

    but why pay .99 cents why you can get them for FREE?



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