Vodafone TERRIFIED of iPhone - Seeks Restraining Order!

DTC <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ummm...the suit is about business practices.

yes, but only under the thin guise of... ****! --- the iPhone is selling
far better than we expected. It's eating our business alive, let's sue!

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Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:linuxlovesosx-
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> DTC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ummm...the suit is about business practices.
>
> yes, but only under the thin guise of... ****! --- the iPhone is selling
> far better than we expected. It's eating our business alive, let's sue!
>

Funny- I don't see mention of that ANYWHERE but out of your disabled brain.

Oxford wrote:
> DTC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ummm...the suit is about business practices.
>
> yes, but only under the thin guise of... ****! --- the iPhone is selling
> far better than we expected. It's eating our business alive, let's sue!
Its cause of the hype.

Next year it will be a long forgotten memory, like AppleTV

Jon wrote:
> AppleTV

Is THAT still around??

"DTC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jon wrote:
>> AppleTV
>
> Is THAT still around??

There are pallets of dusty Apple TV's for like $99 dollars at Costco. LOL

MuahMan wrote:
>
> "DTC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Jon wrote:
>>> AppleTV
>>
>> Is THAT still around??
>
> There are pallets of dusty Apple TV's for like $99 dollars at Costco. LOL
Yep, AppleTV was epic failure by Apple.

"Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> MuahMan wrote:
>>
>> "DTC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Jon wrote:
>>>> AppleTV
>>>
>>> Is THAT still around??
>>
>> There are pallets of dusty Apple TV's for like $99 dollars at Costco. LOL
> Yep, AppleTV was epic failure by Apple.

It simply can't be. Oxtard said it was poised to take over the world and put
all the Cable companies out of business by 2010.

In article
<[email protected]>,
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gosh people! just get an iPhone and get on with life... no other Cell
> Carrier is going to be able to compete against Apple in the handset
> market, Apple is just too experienced in building high quality small
> devices...
You're an idiot.
Apple is not more experienced than all companies at building small
devices, nor are they best in every way.
Cell _carriers_ are not competing against Apple, you fool. The carriers
are competing against other carriers, and Apple makes a handset.

> WE ALL know that. Learn a better way, don't try and fight the old guard.
Apple is not the 'old guard' you moron.
But either way, the sentiment is STUPID. It is always important to
fight the old guard when the old guard is serving you badly or corrupt.

> Move up in the world!
Buying an iPhone does not move you up in the world.
Fighting the 'old guard' does not move you up in the world.
Being a consumer of a popular device does not move you up in the world.


And, note this --

dumping hugely inappropriate messages all over every group you care to
infect, full of lies and misleading facts, full of broad claims and
stupidity, certainly does NOT move Oxford up in the world!

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Old School Vodafone is so upset with the massive popularity of the
> iPhone in Germany they have gone to court to try and block their own
> downfall!
>
> Wow!
>
> We all knew this would happen sooner or later, but Germany's poorly
> managed Vodafone unit has gone to court to stop Cell Phone advancements
> in the the country of Germany. They can't stand the iPhone's pressure,
> so are seeking court relief before they go under.
>
> This will be good for everyone!
>

Here is the REAL facts...

Vodafone did not ask the court to stop T-Mobile from selling the iPhone,
Gordon said.
Vodafone would like to see a court eventually mandate that T-Mobile sell an
unlocked
version of the iPhone for the same or less as today's locked version, he
said.

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...one_sales.html

I don't think I've ever seen someone (Oxford) more consistently full of
****.

"Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here is the REAL facts...
>
> Vodafone did not ask the court to stop T-Mobile from selling the iPhone,
> Gordon said.
> Vodafone would like to see a court eventually mandate that T-Mobile sell an
> unlocked
> version of the iPhone for the same or less as today's locked version, he
> said.
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...otests_tmobile
> _iphone_sales.html
>
> I don't think I've ever seen someone (Oxford) more consistently full of
> ****.

Yes, but from a LEGAL perspective Vodafone is TERRIFIED of losing
customers to the iPhone, so they are trying to open up holes so they can
obtain revenue from the iPhone without committing to the future.

No handset maker can now compete in the Cell Market against the iPhone,
that's a pure fact. Apple has too many patents on the future, so
everyone must either bow down to Apple or go out of business.

These are the facts... cell carriers and handset makers must face.

Do a great deal with Apple to carry the iPhone, or disappear.

Those are the only 2 choices for the next several decades.

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In article
<[email protected]>,
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> No handset maker can now compete in the Cell Market against the iPhone,
> that's a pure fact.

Nonsense.

Different people use cell phones for different purposes; quite a lot of
people use them simply as phones. For that purpose something
considerably smaller, lighter cheaper and simpler makes a lot more sense
than the iPhone.

Some people use them to connect to the internet. Whatever you may think
is going to happen, at present open WiFi networks are not available in
most places, at least in my experience. Under those circumstances, a 3G
phone provides a better connection, especially for tethering, than the
iPhone.

I could go on. The iPhone is a very pretty piece of technology, and for
some users probably the best phone available, but not for all, probably
not for most.

> Apple has too many patents on the future, so
> everyone must either bow down to Apple or go out of business.

This is the sort of comment--a statement apparently made because it lets
you feel good about posturing rather than because there is any reason to
think it is true--that gives me some sympathy with the posters who spend
their time exchanging insults with you instead of actually posting about
something interesting.

--
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Author of _Harald_, a fantasy without magic.
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Oxford wrote:

> Those are the only 2 choices for the next several decades.

Fish or cut bait, Oxie-moron.

When did you naked short the wireless telcos and handset makers?

David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:

> I could go on. The iPhone is a very pretty piece of technology, and for
> some users probably the best phone available, but not for all, probably
> not for most.
>
> > Apple has too many patents on the future, so
> > everyone must either bow down to Apple or go out of business.
>
> This is the sort of comment--a statement apparently made because it lets
> you feel good about posturing rather than because there is any reason to
> think it is true--that gives me some sympathy with the posters who spend
> their time exchanging insults with you instead of actually posting about
> something interesting.

great, but you are missing the point that the current iPhone is just the
slightest tip of the product iceberg.

Apple has 20-30 designs on their 3D imager right now and is fine tuning
them as we speak to match the larger Cell Market. You'll see 8 to 12 new
models of iPhones within 36 months.

That's just how Apple operates... always bettering themselves since
there is no outside competition.

So, don't focus on the great first iPhone and say it's the last.

Simply look at the Monochrome 5GB iPod sold at $399 in 2001, then look
at the iPod Nano 8GB sold today in Walmarts across the world.

http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/

Apple has only opened up 7 outlets for the iPhone, and it's been a
massive success. 90x times more popular than the original iPod!

The iPod now sells at upwards of 47,000 locations...

The iPhone will follow the same successful path.

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"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, but from a LEGAL perspective Vodafone is TERRIFIED of losing
> customers to the iPhone, so they are trying to open up holes so they can
> obtain revenue from the iPhone without committing to the future.
>
> No handset maker can now compete in the Cell Market against the iPhone,
> that's a pure fact. Apple has too many patents on the future, so
> everyone must either bow down to Apple or go out of business.
>
> These are the facts... cell carriers and handset makers must face.
>
> Do a great deal with Apple to carry the iPhone, or disappear.
>
> Those are the only 2 choices for the next several decades.
>
> -
>

Nope, sorry. Not even a moderately good attempt at spin.

Wrong on ALL counts. Sorry fanatic fanboy.

Since Oxford's pathetic spin is ALL complete CRAP - no point
in my refuting it line by line.

Just more of the same, lame fiction.

"David Friedman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No handset maker can now compete in the Cell Market against the iPhone,
>> that's a pure fact.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> Different people use cell phones for different purposes; quite a lot of
> people use them simply as phones. For that purpose something
> considerably smaller, lighter cheaper and simpler makes a lot more sense
> than the iPhone.
>
> Some people use them to connect to the internet. Whatever you may think
> is going to happen, at present open WiFi networks are not available in
> most places, at least in my experience. Under those circumstances, a 3G
> phone provides a better connection, especially for tethering, than the
> iPhone.
>
> I could go on. The iPhone is a very pretty piece of technology, and for
> some users probably the best phone available, but not for all, probably
> not for most.
>
>> Apple has too many patents on the future, so
>> everyone must either bow down to Apple or go out of business.
>
> This is the sort of comment--a statement apparently made because it lets
> you feel good about posturing rather than because there is any reason to
> think it is true--that gives me some sympathy with the posters who spend
> their time exchanging insults with you instead of actually posting about
> something interesting.
>
>

It's the "posturing" that is what garners the responses.
The arrogant, **I** know it all, everyone else doesn't piss poor attitude.

(That and the complete disregard for any facts whatsoever)