Comparison of N8-00 and iphone

Nokia N8-00 has a 3.5-inch display with a resolution of 640 × 360
pixels. Sothe Nokia N8-00 beyond the iPhone a lot (iPhone's screen
resolution is 320 × 480 pixels) in screen display. I have found the
ringtones of N8-00 here http://www.mobicomet.com/
Nokia N8-00 uses the latest Symbian ^ 3 operating system that supports
multi-touch operation, the label point bottom of the screen also proved
its multi-page desktop switch, this mode of operation with the iPhone,
is the same, however, the all icons are not placed on the desktop of
N8-00, instead of using a plug-in to place widgets on the desktop.
Although Symbian ^ 3 is much more beautiful, but we can see in it the
shadow of the fifth edition of Symbian S60.




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zhangkeyi001 wrote:
> Nokia N8-00 has a 3.5-inch display with a resolution of 640 × 360
> pixels. Sothe Nokia N8-00 beyond the iPhone a lot (iPhone's screen
> resolution is 320 × 480 pixels) in screen display. I have found the
> ringtones of N8-00 here http://www.mobicomet.com/
> Nokia N8-00 uses the latest Symbian ^ 3 operating system that supports
> multi-touch operation, the label point bottom of the screen also proved
> its multi-page desktop switch, this mode of operation with the iPhone,
> is the same, however, the all icons are not placed on the desktop of
> N8-00, instead of using a plug-in to place widgets on the desktop.
> Although Symbian ^ 3 is much more beautiful, but we can see in it the
> shadow of the fifth edition of Symbian S60.



I'd suggest you wait till the phone is actually released. The software
and features are still a matter of speculation, and there's no telling
what all the final version will have or omit.

5th Edition has been renamed as Symbian^1, so yes, Symbian^3 is a more
evolved version.


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"Rex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> zhangkeyi001 wrote:
>> Nokia N8-00 has a 3.5-inch display with a resolution of 640 × 360
>> pixels. Sothe Nokia N8-00 beyond the iPhone a lot (iPhone's screen
>> resolution is 320 × 480 pixels) in screen display. I have found the
>> ringtones of N8-00 here http://www.mobicomet.com/
>> Nokia N8-00 uses the latest Symbian ^ 3 operating system that supports
>> multi-touch operation, the label point bottom of the screen also proved
>> its multi-page desktop switch, this mode of operation with the iPhone,
>> is the same, however, the all icons are not placed on the desktop of
>> N8-00, instead of using a plug-in to place widgets on the desktop.
>> Although Symbian ^ 3 is much more beautiful, but we can see in it the
>> shadow of the fifth edition of Symbian S60.
>
>
>
> I'd suggest you wait till the phone is actually released. The software and
> features are still a matter of speculation, and there's no telling what
> all the final version will have or omit.
>
> 5th Edition has been renamed as Symbian^1, so yes, Symbian^3 is a more
> evolved version.
>
>
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Nokia have long since released the specification of the phone. Airside* it
is essentially the N97 / N79 but lower power. the changed features are: -

Screen - as above OLED instead of lower res LCD.
Battery - not an easy swap, but lower power operation giving endurance.
Connectivity - HDMI interface added (+USB A maybe)
Optics - 12MP camera
Memory - 32Mb on board + 32Mb SD
Price - probably about half that of the iPhone4

There are videos of pre-production phones in use and some of the software
features, like a mouse cursor.

What it won't have is the PITA Apple locking and other rip off tactics
(apart from DCMS on the HDMI interface) that mean that the first thing a
crapple purchaser wants to do with their new phone is jail-break it.

What does appear to have slipped off is the release date from next week to
October :-((









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FM 88-108 Rx, Tx
GSM 900 Rx, Tx
GPS Rx
GSM 1800 Rx, Tx
GSM 1900 Rx, Tx
UMTS 2100 Rx, Tx
Wi-Fi 2400 Rx, Tx
Bluetooth " Rx, Tx

R. Mark Clayton wrote:

> What does appear to have slipped off is the release date from next week to
> October :-((

Nokia should learn a thing or two from Apple- first one being NOT to
announce all details of their phones 6 months in advance, and just let
the hype build up.
The N8's image also suffered because of a Russian blogger who got his
hands on an unauthorized pre production handset, and wrote a scathing
review of it.
Imagine if they had just announced that they were launching a new device
with 12mp camera, xenon flash and HD video- and said nothing more till
the actual release.
Instead we have people already comparing it to the iPhone 4, or pointing
out that it has a slower processor than the Samsung Galaxy S, among
other things.


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"Rex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>
>> What does appear to have slipped off is the release date from next week
>> to
>> October :-((
>
> Nokia should learn a thing or two from Apple- first one being NOT to
> announce all details of their phones 6 months in advance, and just let the
> hype build up.

This is what they did with the original iPhone and it was ****, well short
of the spec of similar Nokia with no 3G, Wi-fi or expansion.

Apple are pass masters at selling vapour-ware.

> The N8's image also suffered because of a Russian blogger who got his
> hands on an unauthorized pre production handset, and wrote a scathing
> review of it.
> Imagine if they had just announced that they were launching a new device
> with 12mp camera, xenon flash and HD video- and said nothing more till the
> actual release.
> Instead we have people already comparing it to the iPhone 4, or pointing
> out that it has a slower processor than the Samsung Galaxy S, among other
> things.
>

OTOH I am pretty sure Nokia will release this once they have sorted out the
wrinkles, unlike Motorola and the MPX back in 2004: -
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/reviews/smart...-mpx-39164765/
http://www.mobileburn.com/media/moto...a-128-0189.jpg
which never actually made it to market...

R. Mark Clayton wrote:

> Apple are pass masters at selling vapour-ware.
>

With Apple, they use only a subset of features, but they do implement
them so well that it works for the 99% technologically challenged masses
who claim that it's oh so difficult to use a Nokia or any other
smartphone. They've shown that to the average joe, UI trumps everything
else. Simple example - Nokia has had 3G video calling for at least 5
years on its phones, but this was a network dependent feature and they
never tried to promote it. Now people think Apple invented video calling
with their Facetime - because they hyped it to the heavens (never mind
that it only works between iPhone 4s on wifi only for now).

Similarly, the erstwhile LifeBlog on Nokia can be used to post to any of
the popular blogging platforms, and it's been around since 2006, but
who's going to hunt up the settings required to configure each blog?
My N73 in 2006 came with a pamphlet that boasted the ability to upload
photos directly to Flickr. My N82 2 years later had the same capability
- but the settings for Flickr were not present and I had to add them
manually.
Much later, the iPhone gets this capability and the American tech press
go gaga over it.

Just having an impressive feature list isn't enough to woo the public-
Nokia HAS to show how they benefit people in their daily lives, and
improve their marketing.



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"Rex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>
>> Apple are pass masters at selling vapour-ware.
>>
>
> With Apple, they use only a subset of features, but they do implement them
> so well that it works for the 99% technologically challenged masses who
> claim that it's oh so difficult to use a Nokia or any other smartphone.
> They've shown that to the average joe, UI trumps everything else.

Yes Apple keep it simple [and expensive] for users.


> Simple example - Nokia has had 3G video calling for at least 5 years on
> its phones, but this was a network dependent feature and they never tried
> to promote it.

Odd worked N79 on O2 to N8? on 3 first time - can't say I have much use for
it though.

> Now people think Apple invented video calling with their Facetime -
> because they hyped it to the heavens (never mind that it only works
> between iPhone 4s on wifi only for now).
>
> Similarly, the erstwhile LifeBlog on Nokia can be used to post to any of
> the popular blogging platforms, and it's been around since 2006, but who's
> going to hunt up the settings required to configure each blog?
> My N73 in 2006 came with a pamphlet that boasted the ability to upload
> photos directly to Flickr. My N82 2 years later had the same capability -
> but the settings for Flickr were not present and I had to add them
> manually.
> Much later, the iPhone gets this capability and the American tech press go
> gaga over it.
>
> Just having an impressive feature list isn't enough to woo the public-
> Nokia HAS to show how they benefit people in their daily lives, and
> improve their marketing.

Well they probably need to improve their marketing, but they certainly need
to improve their usability. My N79 should have supported VOIP using SIP,
but rumour had it that it was slugged out of the phone to suit network
providers - even on SIM free phones bought in Nokia's shop. A couple of
upgrades later and an awful lot of configuration later (and I am fairly
techie) and it eventually works - indeed it even works when it is not
supposed to over 3G.


>

R. Mark Clayton wrote:

> Yes Apple keep it simple [and expensive] for users.

Yes, some people seem to like paying a premium for their ignorance or
unwillingness to learn a UI, Symbian is not rocket science.


> Well they probably need to improve their marketing, but they certainly need
> to improve their usability. My N79 should have supported VOIP using SIP,
> but rumour had it that it was slugged out of the phone to suit network
> providers - even on SIM free phones bought in Nokia's shop. A couple of
> upgrades later and an awful lot of configuration later (and I am fairly
> techie) and it eventually works - indeed it even works when it is not
> supposed to over 3G.

Somehow, the N95 and N82 seem to be the last really popular Nokia
models. Both were built tough and people still swear by them. After the
N97 fiasco, Nokia really need the N8 to succeed.


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"Rex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>
>> Yes Apple keep it simple [and expensive] for users.
>
> Yes, some people seem to like paying a premium for their ignorance or
> unwillingness to learn a UI, Symbian is not rocket science.
>
No, but just try and set up SIP!
>
>> Well they probably need to improve their marketing, but they certainly
>> need
>> to improve their usability. My N79 should have supported VOIP using SIP,
>> but rumour had it that it was slugged out of the phone to suit network
>> providers - even on SIM free phones bought in Nokia's shop. A couple of
>> upgrades later and an awful lot of configuration later (and I am fairly
>> techie) and it eventually works - indeed it even works when it is not
>> supposed to over 3G.
>
> Somehow, the N95 and N82 seem to be the last really popular Nokia models.
> Both were built tough and people still swear by them. After the N97
> fiasco, Nokia really need the N8 to succeed.
>
The multi-media key fell off my N79 after nine days and was "not covered by
the warranty Sir", despite buying it from a Nokia shop.

It needs to be pretty bullet proof.
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> "Rex"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Apple keep it simple [and expensive] for users.
>>
>> Yes, some people seem to like paying a premium for their ignorance or
>> unwillingness to learn a UI, Symbian is not rocket science.
>>
> No, but just try and set up SIP!

I did once..forgot the provider's name. They supplied SIP settings for
my N82, and after it was there i could theoretically use the internet
call feature (theoretically because i didn't sign up for a paid account)

>>
>>> Well they probably need to improve their marketing, but they certainly
>>> need
>>> to improve their usability. My N79 should have supported VOIP using SIP,
>>> but rumour had it that it was slugged out of the phone to suit network
>>> providers - even on SIM free phones bought in Nokia's shop. A couple of
>>> upgrades later and an awful lot of configuration later (and I am fairly
>>> techie) and it eventually works - indeed it even works when it is not
>>> supposed to over 3G.
>>
>> Somehow, the N95 and N82 seem to be the last really popular Nokia models.
>> Both were built tough and people still swear by them. After the N97
>> fiasco, Nokia really need the N8 to succeed.
>>
> The multi-media key fell off my N79 after nine days and was "not covered by
> the warranty Sir", despite buying it from a Nokia shop.
>
> It needs to be pretty bullet proof.

I think they dropped the ball on quality after N95/N82. Started
releasing buggy phones with creaky hardware, culminating in the N97.


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