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  1. #1
    R. Mark Clayton
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    When I look on Nokia's web site
    http://www.nokia.co.uk/services-and-...maps/downloads
    it does not list my phone (N79) as one capable of running navigation, but
    when I recently [had to] upgrade to v3 in order to get maps for France and
    Spain it replaced the existing software in the phone and "appears" to have
    installed the full navigation suite complete with "drive to" and "walk to"
    navigation with voice instructions etc.

    Anyway that I can be certain what has happened?

    TIA

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  2. #2
    fellowscot
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    Re: Navigation on N Series


    "R. Mark Clayton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > When I look on Nokia's web site
    > http://www.nokia.co.uk/services-and-...maps/downloads
    > it does not list my phone (N79) as one capable of running navigation, but
    > when I recently [had to] upgrade to v3 in order to get maps for France and
    > Spain it replaced the existing software in the phone and "appears" to have
    > installed the full navigation suite complete with "drive to" and "walk to"
    > navigation with voice instructions etc.
    >
    > Anyway that I can be certain what has happened?
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > --
    >
    > R. Mark Clayton
    >
    > [email protected]
    > remove nospa for email
    >
    > PS reports v3.01 in "about"


    Hi

    I take it the firmware on your phone has been upgraded and so have your ovi
    maps + navigation.

    Nokia has provided new nokias thats being shipped out with full navigation.

    If your lucky to have a phone that can be upgraded ( the firmware ) and
    support full navigation then thats a bonus. Plus free voice guide downloads
    in most languages and maps....

    I dont know how loong you have used the gps on your nokia but it supports
    A-GPS and standalone gps. A-GPS uses your phones operator to recieve a
    much better position fix rather than just using a satalite signal. If you
    have a good data plan than that will make it much cheaper. You can also
    wi-fi signal too. I dont know how good france and spain are with wi-fi but
    its possible.. If you use wi-fi then signal drops. your nokia will tell you
    taht the signals lost then switch to your operators signal but of course if
    your overseas then data roaming come into effect then higher charges are
    applied.

    Or you can use the stand alone gps with only usings a satalie signal then
    you do need good line of sight for a position fix.....

    Hope this has helped you in some way





  3. #3
    Invisible Man
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    Re: Navigation on N Series

    On 28/12/2010 13:40, fellowscot wrote:
    > "R. Mark Clayton"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> When I look on Nokia's web site
    >> http://www.nokia.co.uk/services-and-...maps/downloads
    >> it does not list my phone (N79) as one capable of running navigation, but
    >> when I recently [had to] upgrade to v3 in order to get maps for France and
    >> Spain it replaced the existing software in the phone and "appears" to have
    >> installed the full navigation suite complete with "drive to" and "walk to"
    >> navigation with voice instructions etc.
    >>
    >> Anyway that I can be certain what has happened?
    >>
    >> TIA
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> R. Mark Clayton
    >>
    >> [email protected]
    >> remove nospa for email
    >>
    >> PS reports v3.01 in "about"

    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I take it the firmware on your phone has been upgraded and so have your ovi
    > maps + navigation.
    >
    > Nokia has provided new nokias thats being shipped out with full navigation.
    >
    > If your lucky to have a phone that can be upgraded ( the firmware ) and
    > support full navigation then thats a bonus. Plus free voice guide downloads
    > in most languages and maps....
    >
    > I dont know how loong you have used the gps on your nokia but it supports
    > A-GPS and standalone gps. A-GPS uses your phones operator to recieve a
    > much better position fix rather than just using a satalite signal. If you
    > have a good data plan than that will make it much cheaper. You can also
    > wi-fi signal too. I dont know how good france and spain are with wi-fi but
    > its possible.. If you use wi-fi then signal drops. your nokia will tell you
    > taht the signals lost then switch to your operators signal but of course if
    > your overseas then data roaming come into effect then higher charges are
    > applied.
    >
    > Or you can use the stand alone gps with only usings a satalie signal then
    > you do need good line of sight for a position fix.....
    >
    > Hope this has helped you in some way
    >
    >

    The N86 isn't listed for some things but once I managed to de-brand and
    update it the turn by turn instructions work well for drive 2 but only
    seem to use roads for walk 2. I am fed up with Vodafone being evasive
    about upgrades they have no intention of releasing and horrendous
    problems with Nokia software on my Windows 7 64 bit PC. New phone and
    contract next month :-)



  4. #4
    fellowscot
    Guest

    Re: Navigation on N Series


    "Invisible Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On 28/12/2010 13:40, fellowscot wrote:
    >> "R. Mark Clayton"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >>> When I look on Nokia's web site
    >>> http://www.nokia.co.uk/services-and-...maps/downloads
    >>> it does not list my phone (N79) as one capable of running navigation,
    >>> but
    >>> when I recently [had to] upgrade to v3 in order to get maps for France
    >>> and
    >>> Spain it replaced the existing software in the phone and "appears" to
    >>> have
    >>> installed the full navigation suite complete with "drive to" and "walk
    >>> to"
    >>> navigation with voice instructions etc.
    >>>
    >>> Anyway that I can be certain what has happened?
    >>>
    >>> TIA
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> R. Mark Clayton
    >>>
    >>> [email protected]
    >>> remove nospa for email
    >>>
    >>> PS reports v3.01 in "about"

    >>
    >> Hi
    >>
    >> I take it the firmware on your phone has been upgraded and so have your
    >> ovi
    >> maps + navigation.
    >>
    >> Nokia has provided new nokias thats being shipped out with full
    >> navigation.
    >>
    >> If your lucky to have a phone that can be upgraded ( the firmware ) and
    >> support full navigation then thats a bonus. Plus free voice guide
    >> downloads
    >> in most languages and maps....
    >>
    >> I dont know how loong you have used the gps on your nokia but it supports
    >> A-GPS and standalone gps. A-GPS uses your phones operator to recieve a
    >> much better position fix rather than just using a satalite signal. If
    >> you
    >> have a good data plan than that will make it much cheaper. You can also
    >> wi-fi signal too. I dont know how good france and spain are with wi-fi
    >> but
    >> its possible.. If you use wi-fi then signal drops. your nokia will tell
    >> you
    >> taht the signals lost then switch to your operators signal but of course
    >> if
    >> your overseas then data roaming come into effect then higher charges are
    >> applied.
    >>
    >> Or you can use the stand alone gps with only usings a satalie signal then
    >> you do need good line of sight for a position fix.....
    >>
    >> Hope this has helped you in some way
    >>
    >>

    > The N86 isn't listed for some things but once I managed to de-brand and
    > update it the turn by turn instructions work well for drive 2 but only
    > seem to use roads for walk 2. I am fed up with Vodafone being evasive
    > about upgrades they have no intention of releasing and horrendous problems
    > with Nokia software on my Windows 7 64 bit PC. New phone and contract next
    > month :-)


    Hello

    i remember my n86 from orange.. Once i got my phone, i debranded it and
    installed a new language pack onto it.

    Only problem with that is, the FM transmitter option is no longer in my
    menu. From what am told, the country i was using it has banned fm
    transmission from mobile phones.

    Bonus for me was Orange gaving me the unlock code (?0) after just having
    the phone for little over 5 weeks.. Now i see on the website it now states
    you have to wait 3 months.

    apart from that and new added language.. phone works great





  5. #5
    R. Mark Clayton
    Guest

    Re: Navigation on N Series


    "fellowscot" <[email protected] remove hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "R. Mark Clayton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> When I look on Nokia's web site
    >> http://www.nokia.co.uk/services-and-...maps/downloads
    >> it does not list my phone (N79) as one capable of running navigation, but
    >> when I recently [had to] upgrade to v3 in order to get maps for France
    >> and Spain it replaced the existing software in the phone and "appears" to
    >> have installed the full navigation suite complete with "drive to" and
    >> "walk to" navigation with voice instructions etc.
    >>
    >> Anyway that I can be certain what has happened?
    >>
    >> TIA
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> R. Mark Clayton
    >>
    >> [email protected]
    >> remove nospa for email
    >>
    >> PS reports v3.01 in "about"

    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I take it the firmware on your phone has been upgraded and so have your
    > ovi maps + navigation.


    Yes I recently upgrade the Nav' soft/firmware and it seems to have upgraded
    to beyond the level it says is possible on the web-site (i.e. the N79 is not
    lists as a phone that can have "free" navigation, even though functionally
    it is the same as the N97 (which can).

    >
    > Nokia has provided new nokias thats being shipped out with full
    > navigation.

    Correct.
    >
    > If your lucky to have a phone that can be upgraded ( the firmware ) and
    > support full navigation then thats a bonus. Plus free voice guide
    > downloads in most languages and maps....


    Indeed and I get voice guide.

    >
    > I dont know how loong you have used the gps on your nokia but it supports
    > A-GPS and standalone gps. A-GPS uses your phones operator to recieve a
    > much better position fix rather than just using a satalite signal.


    No it allows an intermediate fix pending GPS resolution and allows much
    faster first fix from a cold or warm start (15-20s typically on Nokia - many
    minutes on my Blackberry)

    > If you have a good data plan than that will make it much cheaper.


    That is the really BIG advantage of the Nokia over Blackberry - the maps are
    in the phone, so no need to be in coverage and no need for data charges
    (e.g. when abroad). In the UK I am on unlimited data and sometimes use
    Google Maps instead.

    > You can also wi-fi signal too. I dont know how good france and spain are
    > with wi-fi but its possible.. If you use wi-fi then signal drops. your
    > nokia will tell you taht the signals lost then switch to your operators
    > signal but of course if your overseas then data roaming come into effect
    > then higher charges are applied.
    >
    > Or you can use the stand alone gps with only usings a satalie signal then
    > you do need good line of sight for a position fix.....


    It seems not to be that fussy. I did a comparison with my BMW. Sat on the
    central console it easily matched the car for accuracy, despite the fact
    that the car has an external antenna and also uses the ABS sensors to work
    out how far and which way the car is going (OTOH it was built to work off
    c/a signal only).

    >
    > Hope this has helped you in some way
    >






  6. #6
    R. Mark Clayton
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    Re: Navigation on N Series


    "Invisible Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On 28/12/2010 13:40, fellowscot wrote:

    SNIP
    >>

    > The N86 isn't listed for some things but once I managed to de-brand and
    > update it the turn by turn instructions work well for drive 2 but only
    > seem to use roads for walk 2.


    There is an option in "walk to" for straight line or roads only. Be careful
    in urban areas or it will have you walking through people's houses and
    gardens.


    > I am fed up with Vodafone being evasive about upgrades they have no
    > intention of releasing and horrendous problems with Nokia software on my
    > Windows 7 64 bit PC. New phone and contract next month :-)


    Well just upgrade using the Ovi suite and a USB cable...





  7. #7
    Invisible Man
    Guest

    Re: Navigation on N Series

    On 03/01/2011 10:43, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
    > "Invisible Man"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> On 28/12/2010 13:40, fellowscot wrote:

    > SNIP
    >>>

    >> The N86 isn't listed for some things but once I managed to de-brand and
    >> update it the turn by turn instructions work well for drive 2 but only
    >> seem to use roads for walk 2.

    >
    > There is an option in "walk to" for straight line or roads only. Be careful
    > in urban areas or it will have you walking through people's houses and
    > gardens.
    >

    It appears to have no knowledge of footpaths, paths across parks etc.
    >
    >> I am fed up with Vodafone being evasive about upgrades they have no
    >> intention of releasing and horrendous problems with Nokia software on my
    >> Windows 7 64 bit PC. New phone and contract next month :-)

    >
    > Well just upgrade using the Ovi suite and a USB cable...
    >
    >

    Bricked one N86 because PC and phone kept losing connection (USB cable)
    while reinstalling phone software. Nokia did replace it without argument.

    Vodafone kept telling everyone that they did not release upgrades for
    Vodafone branded phones until they had been tested. This went on and on
    until they finally were forced to admit they were not supporting or
    would allow release of updates for the Vodafone branded N86.



  8. #8
    R. Mark Clayton
    Guest

    Re: Navigation on N Series


    "Invisible Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On 03/01/2011 10:43, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
    >> "Invisible Man"<[email protected]> wrote in message

    SNIP
    >>
    >>> I am fed up with Vodafone being evasive about upgrades they have no
    >>> intention of releasing and horrendous problems with Nokia software on my
    >>> Windows 7 64 bit PC. New phone and contract next month :-)

    >>
    >> Well just upgrade using the Ovi suite and a USB cable...
    >>
    >>

    > Bricked one N86 because PC and phone kept losing connection (USB cable)
    > while reinstalling phone software. Nokia did replace it without argument.
    >
    > Vodafone kept telling everyone that they did not release upgrades for
    > Vodafone branded phones until they had been tested. This went on and on
    > until they finally were forced to admit they were not supporting or would
    > allow release of updates for the Vodafone branded N86.


    Guess why I bought my N79 in a sealed box from the Nokia shop?





  9. #9
    Invisible Man
    Guest

    Re: Navigation on N Series

    On 05/01/2011 14:16, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
    > "Invisible Man"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> On 03/01/2011 10:43, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
    >>> "Invisible Man"<[email protected]> wrote in message

    > SNIP
    >>>
    >>>> I am fed up with Vodafone being evasive about upgrades they have no
    >>>> intention of releasing and horrendous problems with Nokia software on my
    >>>> Windows 7 64 bit PC. New phone and contract next month :-)
    >>>
    >>> Well just upgrade using the Ovi suite and a USB cable...
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Bricked one N86 because PC and phone kept losing connection (USB cable)
    >> while reinstalling phone software. Nokia did replace it without argument.
    >>
    >> Vodafone kept telling everyone that they did not release upgrades for
    >> Vodafone branded phones until they had been tested. This went on and on
    >> until they finally were forced to admit they were not supporting or would
    >> allow release of updates for the Vodafone branded N86.

    >
    > Guess why I bought my N79 in a sealed box from the Nokia shop?
    >
    >

    Don't try connecting it to a windose 7 64 bit PC



  10. #10
    R. Mark Clayton
    Guest

    Re: Navigation on N Series


    "Invisible Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On 05/01/2011 14:16, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
    >> "Invisible Man"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >>> On 03/01/2011 10:43, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
    >>>> "Invisible Man"<[email protected]> wrote in message

    >> SNIP
    >>>>
    >>>>> I am fed up with Vodafone being evasive about upgrades they have no
    >>>>> intention of releasing and horrendous problems with Nokia software on
    >>>>> my
    >>>>> Windows 7 64 bit PC. New phone and contract next month :-)
    >>>>
    >>>> Well just upgrade using the Ovi suite and a USB cable...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> Bricked one N86 because PC and phone kept losing connection (USB cable)
    >>> while reinstalling phone software. Nokia did replace it without
    >>> argument.
    >>>
    >>> Vodafone kept telling everyone that they did not release upgrades for
    >>> Vodafone branded phones until they had been tested. This went on and on
    >>> until they finally were forced to admit they were not supporting or
    >>> would
    >>> allow release of updates for the Vodafone branded N86.

    >>
    >> Guess why I bought my N79 in a sealed box from the Nokia shop?
    >>
    >>

    > Don't try connecting it to a windose 7 64 bit PC


    Works fine on my "old" XP one.





  11. #11
    Shalma
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    Re: Navigation on N Series


    Its informative mobile update




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