Nokia 3650 Data Connectivity

Thanks for your reply, Dan. I too agree that these wireless technologies
should supplant the "older", albeit more reliable cable technologies. I
cannot fathom how this Bluetooth technology made it too market, given it's
unreliability, and difficulty of usage. As for the MMC bit, I too feel it
may be cumbersome to remove the MMC card from my phone every time I want to
transfer some data, but I am running out of options at this point. The
driver software I installed for my bluetooth dongle (I am still running
Windows 98, more on that later), nearly rendered my machine useless, and
remnants of it still exist today that I cannot get rid of. I think the
ultimate solution however, is to upgrade my OS. I guess XP is the way to
go.

AJ

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> [email protected] (AJ M.) wrote:
> > This phone is nice for the most part. But if you aren't anything more
that
> > a casual user, there is no way to make use of the camera and camcorder
> > features of this phone. I have tried Bluetooth, and that was a
nightmare
> > from the start. I got it to work once, transferring a couple pics from
my
> > phone to my PC.
>
> Getting my 3650, a Belkin F8T003, and my MacOS X laptop to work was a
> bit of a struggle at first (it wasn't clear that the password-like code
> had to be numeric, until I tried entering an alphanumeric code on the
> phone side and it only let me enter numbers but once it got started
> working, it kept working ever since.
>
> But... I have never tried it with a PC.
>
> > I have since ordered a MMC Card reader, has anyone gone this way in
> > an attempt to read the data off the phone?
>
> I have taken my MMC card out *once* when there was some problem with
> some of the data... and the phone got pretty confused by all that. I
> don't think taking the phone and putting it back together any more than
> I have to is a good idea.
>
> > Are there any data cables that actually work on our phone
>
> Kinda doubtful, but I can't say for sure. The whole idea of BlueTooth
> is to get rid of those old things. Maybe the next version of
> Windows will fix your BlueTooth problems?
>
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[email protected] (AJ M.) wrote:
> Thanks for your reply, Dan. I too agree that these wireless technologies
> should supplant the "older", albeit more reliable cable technologies. I
> cannot fathom how this Bluetooth technology made it too market, given it's
> unreliability, and difficulty of usage.

Which unreliability and difficulty of usage would that be? It works quite
easily and reliably for me, and in my case it even has to compete with a
wireless LAN in the same portion of the spectrum.

The problem may lie in the way Bluetooth is implemented or supported (or
not supported in one operating system or another. We're using different
operating systems - I've got WinXP here too, but I use Bluetooth under
MacOS X, since it's known to have good support for it.

I can say that I don't see many Mac users having Bluetooth troubles - but
then, I have to keep in mind that there are far fewer Mac users than
Windows users to begin with.

> The driver software I installed for my bluetooth dongle (I am still
> running Windows 98, more on that later), nearly rendered my machine
> useless, and remnants of it still exist today that I cannot get rid of.
> I think the ultimate solution however, is to upgrade my OS. I guess
> XP is the way to go.

If I'd known you were running '98, I would have mumbled something about
being doomed. Not about bluetooth, mind you -- just in general!

-Dan

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"AJ M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> This phone is nice for the most part. But if you aren't anything more
that
> a casual user, there is no way to make use of the camera and camcorder
> features of this phone. I have tried Bluetooth, and that was a nightmare
> from the start. I got it to work once, transferring a couple pics from my
> phone to my PC. It never worked again, and now I have software on my
> computer that I can't get off. I have since ordered a MMC Card reader,
has
> anyone gone this way in an attempt to read the data off the phone? Are
> there any data cables that actually work on our phone without having to
> remove the damn SIM card? This is ridiculous! My old Nokia 7160 was far
> easier to tinker with! Simply plug the phone into the cable, plug the
cable
> into the serial port, press connect, and WHALA! I am regretting going to
> T-Mobile, my service with Cingular was far superior, and costs less to
boot!
>
> AJ
>
>

I think it really depends what dongle you get. I got a reasonably cheap one
from ebuyer.com (£19 - not bad considering its a class 1 i.e. 100m range)
and it works great - a bit of tinkering to get it to see the phone from time
to time, but nothing major. I have tested it on Win98 and XP - trying to get
it going in linux is the next mountain to climb! Under windows though, I can
send files and connect with data suite and just about anything else you can
think of.

You can see the details of the dongle here: http://tinyurl.com/8ra9

Calculor

"AJ M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> This phone is nice for the most part. But if you aren't anything more
that
> a casual user, there is no way to make use of the camera and camcorder
> features of this phone. I have tried Bluetooth, and that was a nightmare
> from the start. I got it to work once, transferring a couple pics from my
> phone to my PC. It never worked again, and now I have software on my
> computer that I can't get off. I have since ordered a MMC Card reader,
has
> anyone gone this way in an attempt to read the data off the phone? Are
> there any data cables that actually work on our phone without having to
> remove the damn SIM card? This is ridiculous! My old Nokia 7160 was far
> easier to tinker with! Simply plug the phone into the cable, plug the
cable
> into the serial port, press connect, and WHALA! I am regretting going to
> T-Mobile, my service with Cingular was far superior, and costs less to
boot!
>
> AJ
>
>
I don't even bother with wireless. To transfer pics from the phone to the
PC, I simply, take out the MMC card and insert it into a USB reader (which I
got for free for buying a 64MB card). I must have done this 40-50 times so
far with no problems whatsoever. This is the same operation as would be used
for a digital camera.
No big deal at all.

T-Mobile service on the other hand does leave much to be desired.
When emailing pics from the phone to a PC I'd say it's about a 50-50 shot
that the pic will arrive. Or...it may arrive the next day. Emailing a pic
*from* PC *to* the phone gets me about the same result. Adding a sound clip
to an image then transmitting that, works maybe one in ten times.

Phil

"Dan Birchall" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Getting my 3650, a Belkin F8T003, and my MacOS X laptop to work was a
> bit of a struggle at first (it wasn't clear that the password-like code
> had to be numeric, until I tried entering an alphanumeric code on the
> phone side and it only let me enter numbers but once it got started
> working, it kept working ever since.

Semi-agree with this. Setting the 3650 up was a total doddle for me on a OS
X-based laptop with bluetooth built in. Total time from nothing to sync?
About 40 seconds. All the problems I'm reading about involve PC dongles -
had no trouble using it from phone-to-phone or from phone-to-Mac.

I think Bluetooth is getting unfairly blamed - by the sounds of it, it seems
there's a number of dodgy PC drivers out there.


Cheers,
Ian

In article <[email protected]>, Ian
McCall <[email protected]> wrote:

> Semi-agree with this. Setting the 3650 up was a total doddle for me on a OS
> X-based laptop with bluetooth built in. Total time from nothing to sync?
> About 40 seconds. All the problems I'm reading about involve PC dongles -
> had no trouble using it from phone-to-phone or from phone-to-Mac.

Ok, I'll chime in here too. I had a total of zero problems with OS X
using Bluetooth. I'm using the Belkin USB adapter, no problems to
report.

I'm also of the opinion that there are apparently some driver problems
on the Windows side. I'd recommend finding someone with your
particular OS who's having good luck, and get the Bluetooth adapter
they have and hope for the best.

Or, get a Mac.