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  1. #1
    Nigel Feltham
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    Frode wrote:

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    > Richard Colton wrote:
    >>> Piracy is not theft. Don't kid yourself into thinking that it is. It's
    >>> _copyright_ theft, it's not _physical_ theft.

    >> You might want to re-read what you just typed, copyrite theft and
    >> physical theft are still theft as you so succinctly pointed out.

    >
    > - From dictionary.com on the definition of theft: "every part of the
    > property
    > stolen must be removed, however slightly, from its former position; and it
    > must be, at least momentarily, in the complete possession of the thief. "
    >
    > In other words, theft is not a correct term unless you remove the software
    > from its original location making it unavailable to the original owner.
    > Infringement is a better term it seems ("An encroachment on a patent,
    > copyright, or other special privilege").


    Piracy may not involve stealing the software but does involve stealing the
    money you would otherwise have needed to pay for it.



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  2. #2
    Frode
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    Re: Oxygen Phone Manager 2 v2.5

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    Nigel Feltham wrote:
    >> In other words, theft is not a correct term unless you remove the
    >> software from its original location making it unavailable to the
    >> original owner. Infringement is a better term it seems ("An encroachment
    >> on a patent, copyright, or other special privilege").

    > Piracy may not involve stealing the software but does involve stealing
    > the money you would otherwise have needed to pay for it.


    In order to steal (assuming you're using its meaning of "to practice, or be
    guilty of, theft", not an alternative definition) the money you'd have to
    remove it from its rightful owner. Since you're not doing that, but rather
    keeping your money instead of paying for the service, it's still not
    covered by the definition of the word theft.

    IIRC I posted the above weeks ago now. Since then I noticed a few posts
    from americans in other forums that the DMCA consistently never refers to
    copyright infringement as theft. So seems the americans (assuming those
    posters are correct) adhere to the definition of the word while the UK
    (based on Shad's statements) take some liberties with what it covers in
    their legislation.


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  3. #3
    Kimono Kamekaze
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    Re: Oxygen Phone Manager 2 v2.5

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:22:20 +0100, "Richard Colton"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

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    >"rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> sick bastard

    >
    >Yeah? And the OP is advocating theft, so your point is?

    Richie kills phones and then he send them to me to fix.

    Richie lives in a **** house

    Richi kolton moron is a girl who wants to be ****ed by a huge black
    dick in the ass

    Richi has no clue how a phone looks like.

    Richie cant think, ... no brain just air

    Richie is a spammer.



  4. #4
    Kimono Kamekaze
    Guest

    Re: Oxygen Phone Manager 2 v2.5

    Richie kills phones and then he send them to me to fix.

    Richie lives in a **** house

    Richi kolton moron is a girl who wants to be ****ed by a huge black
    dick in the ass

    Richi has no clue how a phone looks like.

    Richie cant think, ... no brain just air

    Richie is a spammer.

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:20:06 +0100, "Richard Colton"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"CB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:22:20 +0100 and in article <K10Ra.1005$Fz2.474
    >> @news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, Richard Colton said...
    >> > "rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> > news:[email protected]
    >> > > sick bastard
    >> >
    >> > Yeah? And the OP is advocating theft, so your point is?

    >>
    >> Piracy is not theft. Don't kid yourself into thinking that it is. It's
    >> _copyright_ theft, it's not _physical_ theft.

    >
    >You might want to re-read what you just typed, copyrite theft and physical
    >theft are still theft as you so succinctly pointed out.
    >
    >> To actually STEAL that
    >> software a person would have to go break into the copyright holders
    >> offices and actually physically STEAL the ORIGINAL code.
    >>

    >
    >Bull! Again, read what you typed, copyrite theft IS theft, plain and
    >simple.





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