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- 08-10-2003, 02:21 PM #1MirageGuest
Any ideas when Nokia will replace current 9210i ?
Any links with more info perhaps.
Many thanks,
Alex
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- 08-10-2003, 03:05 PM #2Tero LehtoGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
Mirage wrote:
> Any ideas when Nokia will replace current 9210i ?
> Any links with more info perhaps.
Anssi Vanjoki, Executive Vice President of Nokia Mobile Phones, has told
several times that a new Communicator is coming. He also has said that
"something very exciting is heating up" which many have interpreted so that
the new Communicator might be something quite different from the current
9210i/9290 models.
There are rumours of a Series 90 -- supposed new software platform and rival
to the UIQ platform used in the SE P800 -- device with Symbian OS 7.0
operating system and touch-screen opeation. Or maybe this will be a totally
new product line? Or then it's just another rumour without any fact base.
Anyway, whatever is "heating up" as successor of the Communicator 92xx
series, it seems that it's not coming very soon:
ComputerWire wrote:
Nokia Corp will not introduce a new version of its flagship smart
phone this year because of continued confusion in the smart device space.
According to Marko Luhtala, director business applications with Nokia
Mobile Phones, a refresh for the 9200 Communicator series is not top of
Espoo, Finland-based Nokia's to-do list. This is despite the devices running
the long-in-the-tooth original version of Symbian OS 6 and not incorporating
GPRS connectivity.
Source:
http://www.computerwire.info/brnews/...256D51005A702E
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- 08-10-2003, 03:22 PM #3Tero LehtoGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
Tero Lehto wrote:
> Anssi Vanjoki, Executive Vice President of Nokia Mobile Phones, has
> told several times that a new Communicator is coming. He also has
> said that "something very exciting is heating up"
I have to correct myself: the exact phrase seemed to be: "something
wonderful is cooking".
Source: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10044
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- 08-10-2003, 03:28 PM #4Tero LehtoGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
And there's another article about the delay (?) of the new Communicator in
the Computer Business Review Online:
http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/...256d520018ba50
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- 08-10-2003, 03:51 PM #5nookiehunterGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
well i just hope they shrink it down to size... the 92xx was as big as a
brick, but i liked what it could do.
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- 08-11-2003, 07:02 AM #6MirageGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
Many thanks Tero,
I am due for new set, thinking about 6800.
Any suggestions ?
Regards,
Alex
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> And there's another article about the delay (?) of the new Communicator in
> the Computer Business Review Online:
>
> http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/...256d520018ba50
>
> Google is a friend of any Internet user.
>
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>
>
- 08-11-2003, 02:08 PM #7Tero LehtoGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
Mirage wrote:
> I am due for new set, thinking about 6800.
> Any suggestions ?
My recommendation depends on what you want to do with your phone and
messaging device. The 6800 is a wonderful phone for SMS messaging thanks to
its QWERTY keyboard - it's about the same as in the Communicator 92xx
series.
But then again, the 6800 isn't a smartphone like the Commmunicator and other
Symbian devices. It has a very limited calendar and note-keeping features
and its email client (that supports IMAP4, POP3 and SMTP protocols) is quite
sluggish and hard to use and setup. At least this was the case with first
firmware version, I don't if newer software versions have improved this.
I use the 7650 for emails, calandar, notes, daily tasks et cetera and I
synchronize them with MS Outlook at office. It has a very decent email
client and because it's a Symbian / Series 60 smartphone, you can run many
applications at the same, check emails in the background while you have
applications running and so on. With the 6800 you can always use just one
feature.
The 3650 has an MMC (memory) slot and it's many ways an improved version of
the 7650, but I couldn't get to used to its quite peculiar number keypad. If
you can wait until the end of this year, I'd definitely go for the 6600 in
terms of messaging and smartphone features. It's the next Series 60
smartphone from Nokia with a standard numpad and without any sliding cover,
lighter and smaller than 3650/7650 and has many revamps in the software.
Don't be confused about cameras in these phones, I haven't needed or used
that in my 7650 practically at all. Even though these 3650/7650/6600 are
sold as camera phones, they have better use for many people.
But if you definitely want a phone with a QWERTY keyboard and you can cope
with the Java email client of the 6800, then it could be a good choice. I
recommend you do a list of the TOP 10 features that are most important to
you and make you decision based on that.
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- 08-11-2003, 02:55 PM #8MirageGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
Keyboard is a must - I send and receive many emails.
I love notepad feature on 9210i, combined with handsfree it's magic.
Rarely use office suite, in fact had it uninstalled, same with video player,
voice recorder, games etc. Using it as a lean (so to speak) mobile office.
I live in South Africa, we're about couple of months late compared to
releases
in Europe - we will probably get 6600 early next year - long wait for me.
P800 is decent, yet, I don't see it as an improvement, I hate the fact that
6800 has fm radio but not a proper browser. T610 looks nice, small and
packed up with features - if I decide to go for no keyboard phone I see it
as a best buy currently.
What do you think ?
Regards,
Alex
>
> My recommendation depends on what you want to do with your phone and
> messaging device. The 6800 is a wonderful phone for SMS messaging thanks
to
> its QWERTY keyboard - it's about the same as in the Communicator 92xx
> series.
>
> But then again, the 6800 isn't a smartphone like the Commmunicator and
other
> Symbian devices. It has a very limited calendar and note-keeping features
> and its email client (that supports IMAP4, POP3 and SMTP protocols) is
quite
> sluggish and hard to use and setup. At least this was the case with first
> firmware version, I don't if newer software versions have improved this.
>
> I use the 7650 for emails, calandar, notes, daily tasks et cetera and I
> synchronize them with MS Outlook at office. It has a very decent email
> client and because it's a Symbian / Series 60 smartphone, you can run many
> applications at the same, check emails in the background while you have
> applications running and so on. With the 6800 you can always use just one
> feature.
>
> The 3650 has an MMC (memory) slot and it's many ways an improved version
of
> the 7650, but I couldn't get to used to its quite peculiar number keypad.
If
> you can wait until the end of this year, I'd definitely go for the 6600 in
> terms of messaging and smartphone features. It's the next Series 60
> smartphone from Nokia with a standard numpad and without any sliding
cover,
> lighter and smaller than 3650/7650 and has many revamps in the software.
>
> Don't be confused about cameras in these phones, I haven't needed or used
> that in my 7650 practically at all. Even though these 3650/7650/6600 are
> sold as camera phones, they have better use for many people.
>
> But if you definitely want a phone with a QWERTY keyboard and you can cope
> with the Java email client of the 6800, then it could be a good choice. I
> recommend you do a list of the TOP 10 features that are most important to
> you and make you decision based on that.
>
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> Tero Lehto
> http://lehto.net/tero/
>
>
- 08-11-2003, 04:56 PM #9Tero LehtoGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
Mirage wrote:
> Keyboard is a must - I send and receive many emails.
> I love notepad feature on 9210i, combined with handsfree it's magic.
> Rarely use office suite, in fact had it uninstalled, same with video
> player, voice recorder, games etc. Using it as a lean (so to speak)
> mobile office.
A few more comments about these models:
Nokia 6800:
If a QWERTY keyboard is very important to you and write a lot of messages,
the 6800 is probably a good choice, not least because there actually aren't
that many (or any?) alternatives.
The 6800 doesn't have a HTML/XTML browser, but can install a Java MIDP
application called WebViewer ( http://www.reqwireless.com/webviewer.html ).
It costs about US$10 and is well worth the money if you want to browse
text-based web pages. But please note that due to limitations of the Java
MIDP 1.0 interface, you cannot access SSL secured - that is, https:// -
pages with it. So you can't do online banking / shopping / webmails with
this browser.
The notepad/memo feature in the 6800 is quite okay, you can type in quick
notes at the same time you have a phone call in speaker mode. This is where
the QWERTY keyboard is very handy - as a Communicator you know this too.
You can also synchronize the calendar, address book and SMS messages with MS
Outlook, MS Outlook Express and Lotus Notes, but you will need a USB data
cable to 6800's Pop-Port interface. This is an accessory that costs about
US$50 here in Europe. Or then you can use infrared.
6800 comes with quite good PC tools for handling settings and transferring
all kinds of files between your phone and PC.
6800 is a good phone for quick notes and writing messages, but I just wasn't
happy with the email client compared to real smartphones. You'd have try it
for yourself to find out whether it's too slow and hard to use for you.
SE T610:
My second phone is the T610 which I'm somewhat happy with, but as you write
a lot messages, it's normal numpad can't compete with the QWERTY keyboard of
the 6800.
T610 has, though, a much faster email client than the 6800. It also has a
background check function: you can poll for new emails from every 4 mintues
to 12 hours. And when you get new email, it shows a letter in the main menu
the same as with SMS messages.
The biggest problem with the T610 is it's display: even though it has nice
+65 000 colours, it's almost hopeless in bright sunlight. In fact, if I'm in
bright sunlight, I often have to go shadow to see the screeen at all. This
is something very annoying. And as you live in South-Africa, I bet you have
bright sunlight pretty much all the time. ;-)
T610 also supports synchronizing of emails, calendar et cetera by Bluetooth
or infrared. These are about the same level as the Nokia 6800, BUT it
doesn't come with as good PC software as the 6800.
I think the numpad is quite OK, and the phone supports T9. But it's nothing
like the QWERTY keyboard of the 6800 if you write a lot.
SE P800:
P800 is something quite different, indeed a impressive smartphone with
"everything" most people will want from a phone and very close to a PDA.
But there's one very significant difference compared to most phones: it's
based on two hand operation, one hand holding the device and the other hand
using the pen with the touch-screen. Some people love this, others hate it.
I was in between. I learnt to use the P800 quite fast, but it never - during
three months of use - felt as comfortable as phones that I can hold with one
hand. Anyway, you have used the Communicator with two hands and the 6800 is
also used with two hands when you have its QWERTY keyboard open.
P800 has "a virtual keyboard" system and a five-way roller button, so in
theory you can use it without the pen, but this device is definitely
intended for those people who like touch-screen operation. I think you'd
have to try it before you know whether you like it or not.
* * *
Did I make your decision any easier? I'm not good at giving simple answers.
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- 08-12-2003, 10:46 AM #10MirageGuest
Re: New Nokia Communicator
I had 6800 for few hours today.
Don't like it. It takes effort to open or close keyboard,
very small buttons*****olling clearly "lags" input from the jog.
P800 - maybe, but I don't see improvement - apart from camera
which I don't use. In all honesty, I don't think that there's anything
close to 9210i currently on the market. Thinking of PDA and small
phone or PDA with phone. Now, that is different topic altogether.
Regards,
Alex
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