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  1. #1
    I was hoping someone might be able to help me here. It's regarding
    having your mobile phone lost or stolen.
    If you have a second mobile phone, along with a computer with Internet
    Access, is there anything that can be done to trace the use of your
    stolen mobile phone?
    Keeping in mind that you would know your IMEI Number. *IF* you somehow
    changed your second phone's IMEI Number to match your First phone's
    IMEI Number, would this be of any use in tracking it's usage?

    Also, there are PIN Codes that block SIM Card usage, and Phone
    Securtiy Codes that block handset usage. Can a thief bypass these
    codes easily?

    Only aksing here, since I don't know of all the details involved.



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  2. #2
    Jeremy Quirke
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    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I was hoping someone might be able to help me here. It's regarding
    > having your mobile phone lost or stolen.
    > If you have a second mobile phone, along with a computer with Internet
    > Access, is there anything that can be done to trace the use of your
    > stolen mobile phone?


    Unfortunately no, the best that can be done is blocking the phone from
    Australian networks.

    > Keeping in mind that you would know your IMEI Number. *IF* you somehow
    > changed your second phone's IMEI Number to match your First phone's
    > IMEI Number, would this be of any use in tracking it's usage?
    >
    > Also, there are PIN Codes that block SIM Card usage, and Phone
    > Securtiy Codes that block handset usage. Can a thief bypass these
    > codes easily?


    Phone security codes are usually easily overridden. SIM PINs are a *lot*
    harder. But generally, you would have requested the network blocked that SIM
    (IMSI+Ki combination) and the network would have allocated you a new SIM
    with new IMSI/Ki.





  3. #3
    Wildfire
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?

    On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 01:09:32 GMT: scribbled in alt.cellular.nokia

    > Keeping in mind that you would know your IMEI Number.


    Then report it, you may not get your phone back but it would at least
    be a minor PITA for anyone else to use it.

    > *IF* you
    > somehow changed your second phone's IMEI Number to match your
    > First phone's IMEI Number


    Don't know about where you are from but here in the UK that could
    probably earn you more prison time that actually stealing the phone.

    > would this be of any use in tracking it's usage?


    Depends, can you get it back from a jail cell? Seriously if you're
    insured and know the IMEI number then report it and get a
    replacement, if you're not insured then report it anyway and be more
    carefull next time.



    --
    Wildfire
    Proud to be an Arab
    Remove only "ThE" & "ObViOuS." to reply



  4. #4
    Jeremy Quirke
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    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?


    "Wildfire" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 01:09:32 GMT: scribbled in alt.cellular.nokia
    >
    > > Keeping in mind that you would know your IMEI Number.

    >
    > Then report it, you may not get your phone back but it would at least
    > be a minor PITA for anyone else to use it.
    >
    > > *IF* you
    > > somehow changed your second phone's IMEI Number to match your
    > > First phone's IMEI Number

    >
    > Don't know about where you are from but here in the UK that could
    > probably earn you more prison time that actually stealing the phone.


    He's in Australia, where mobile phones are blocked but IMEI changing is not
    illegal, for the time being.





  5. #5
    Daniel Juhn
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?

    > Also, there are PIN Codes that block SIM Card usage, and Phone
    > Securtiy Codes that block handset usage. Can a thief bypass these
    > codes easily?


    re: sim card usage... the first thing a theif would do normally is throw
    away the sim... any numbers s/he calls will be seen on the bill, and could
    be used to possibly identify the theif.

    re: phone locks: very very easily, for basically all models, yes.





  6. #6
    Richard
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?

    My wife has am old Ericsson GA628 that she has forgotten the phone lock code
    for. Anyone know how to reset it or find out what it is. Obviously I am
    not going to get a data cable given that the phone is basically worthless,
    but was thinking of giving it to my parents as they have no mobile and
    getting a pre-paid sim (assuming the sim voltage will not be a problem?)

    Richard



    "Daniel Juhn" <j.u.h.n.remove.the.peri[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > > Also, there are PIN Codes that block SIM Card usage, and Phone
    > > Securtiy Codes that block handset usage. Can a thief bypass these
    > > codes easily?

    >
    > re: sim card usage... the first thing a theif would do normally is throw
    > away the sim... any numbers s/he calls will be seen on the bill, and could
    > be used to possibly identify the theif.
    >
    > re: phone locks: very very easily, for basically all models, yes.
    >
    >






  7. #7
    Dtrain
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?

    Drop into a Telstra repair centre in your state
    and they can unlock the phone

    Dwayne

    On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 03:48:59 GMT, "Richard" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >My wife has am old Ericsson GA628 that she has forgotten the phone lock code
    >for. Anyone know how to reset it or find out what it is. Obviously I am
    >not going to get a data cable given that the phone is basically worthless,
    >but was thinking of giving it to my parents as they have no mobile and
    >getting a pre-paid sim (assuming the sim voltage will not be a problem?)
    >
    >Richard
    >
    >
    >
    >"Daniel Juhn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> > Also, there are PIN Codes that block SIM Card usage, and Phone
    >> > Securtiy Codes that block handset usage. Can a thief bypass these
    >> > codes easily?

    >>
    >> re: sim card usage... the first thing a theif would do normally is throw
    >> away the sim... any numbers s/he calls will be seen on the bill, and could
    >> be used to possibly identify the theif.
    >>
    >> re: phone locks: very very easily, for basically all models, yes.
    >>
    >>

    >





  8. #8
    Michael J
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?


    "Daniel Juhn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > > Also, there are PIN Codes that block SIM Card usage, and Phone
    > > Securtiy Codes that block handset usage. Can a thief bypass these
    > > codes easily?

    >
    > re: sim card usage... the first thing a theif would do normally is throw
    > away the sim... any numbers s/he calls will be seen on the bill, and could
    > be used to possibly identify the theif.


    Haha, hardly ever happens







  9. #9
    The Mole
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I was hoping someone might be able to help me here. It's regarding
    > having your mobile phone lost or stolen.
    > If you have a second mobile phone, along with a computer with Internet
    > Access, is there anything that can be done to trace the use of your
    > stolen mobile phone?

    Yes, if you register with a said site and know your IMEI - you can pinpoint
    exactly where your phone is. Obviously this is for parents etc, this never
    crossed the owner of the site's mind.

    > Keeping in mind that you would know your IMEI Number. *IF* you somehow
    > changed your second phone's IMEI Number to match your First phone's
    > IMEI Number, would this be of any use in tracking it's usage?

    That will just get you locked up in the UK. Two wrongs don't make a
    right...
    Forget tweaking numbers as all it would do is cause both phones to be
    shutdown and reported stolen
    and phone would be locateable in two places. One being where you are.
    Not a wise move.
    Highly illegal and be stupid to do...
    >
    > Also, there are PIN Codes that block SIM Card usage, and Phone
    > Securtiy Codes that block handset usage. Can a thief bypass these
    > codes easily?

    Not the PIN, but security code can be got around. It depends on DCT3 or
    DCT4 how easy it is.
    If the phone works when unlocked, they buy a new sim and chuck the old away.
    The best thing to do is to report your first IMEI as stolen and forget about
    it any further than that.
    It's a pity we have thieves in the world we live in, such is life...
    see: http://www.immobilise.com/

    > Only asking here, since I don't know of all the details involved.

    In that case, learn from the experience. Don't get into illegal activities
    and put yourself at risk...





  10. #10
    Milan
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?

    Hallo Everyone,
    Among lot of people in todays world I have the same expiriance and
    need some help.
    During my staying in Poland they stole my mobilephone Nokia 7650 in
    one hotel while I was sleeping.
    Is there enything I can do to locate my phone or as I heard somehow it
    can be located or blocked.To do this what can I do, where I should
    send the IMEI to block\locate it.Due to that was wery new phone I
    still have with me the garancy paper.
    I would be wery thenkfull for any help.



  11. #11
    Michael J
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?

    > That will just get you locked up in the UK. Two wrongs don't make a
    > right...
    > Forget tweaking numbers as all it would do is cause both phones to be
    > shutdown and reported stolen
    > and phone would be locateable in two places. One being where you are.
    > Not a wise move.
    > Highly illegal and be stupid to do...


    That doesnt happen in Australia






  12. #12
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?


    Michael J <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]

    >> That will just get you locked up in the UK.
    >> Two wrongs don't make a right...
    >> Forget tweaking numbers as all it would do is cause
    >> both phones to be shutdown and reported stolen
    >> and phone would be locateable in two places.
    >> One being where you are.
    >> Not a wise move.
    >> Highly illegal and be stupid to do...


    > That doesnt happen in Australia


    They're talking about changing that here now.
    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...624979909.html





  13. #13
    Ivor Jones
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?


    "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > Michael J <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    > >> That will just get you locked up in the UK.
    > >> Two wrongs don't make a right...
    > >> Forget tweaking numbers as all it would do is cause
    > >> both phones to be shutdown and reported stolen
    > >> and phone would be locateable in two places.
    > >> One being where you are.
    > >> Not a wise move.
    > >> Highly illegal and be stupid to do...

    >
    > > That doesnt happen in Australia

    >
    > They're talking about changing that here now.
    > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...624979909.html


    Note the section that says

    : The system also works in reverse - previously missing phones which
    : have been recovered will be given access to mobile networks again.

    Try getting the networks to do that here in the UK...!

    Ivor





  14. #14
    Albinus
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    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?

    "The Mole" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Yes, if you register with a said site and know your IMEI - you can

    pinpoint
    > exactly where your phone is. Obviously this is for parents etc, this

    never
    > crossed the owner of the site's mind.



    GSM doesn't utilise triangulation like CDMA does - you've got a far greater
    chance of finding a CDMA phone from which sectors it is currently utilising.
    All you can do with GSM is know which sector and the TA of the call - which
    in Australia can mean a bloody big area!


    Albinus.





  15. #15
    Michael J
    Guest

    Re: Lost / Stolen Mobile Phones?


    "Albinus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "The Mole" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    > > Yes, if you register with a said site and know your IMEI - you can

    > pinpoint
    > > exactly where your phone is. Obviously this is for parents etc, this

    > never
    > > crossed the owner of the site's mind.

    >
    >
    > GSM doesn't utilise triangulation like CDMA does - you've got a far

    greater
    > chance of finding a CDMA phone from which sectors it is currently

    utilising.
    > All you can do with GSM is know which sector and the TA of the call -

    which
    > in Australia can mean a bloody big area!


    Who cares anyway? This is only relevant to law enforcement, the average
    johnny is never going to need to know this






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