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- 09-30-2003, 05:19 PM #1gusthebluefishGuest
There is a lot of debate raging over the merits of each of the above
products (perhaps not so many merits with PC Suite other than it
really is free). After much frustration trying to get PC Suite working
properly with a 6610 and DKU-5 cable I gave up and bought
LogoManager's MobiMB program. It fills the gap nicely of the functions
of PC Suite I just couldn't get working - namely uploading tones,
backgrounds, games.
It's an interesting market, with only 3 real contenders (the free one
from Nokia and 2 competing commercial products) and the authors of the
3rd party products actively participating in the online debates. It
would be nice to see Nokia participate and defend their product, but
you can't have everything.
For what it's worth, here are my reasons for making the choice I did:
1. LogoManager is cheaper. While Oxygen has much more features, I
couldn't really justify the up front cost when the only bits I really
needed are what LM provides.
2. I was not comfortable with the licence arrangement of Oxygen.
Regular readers will be well aware of the debate raging over this so
here is my 2c:
I understand the desire of Oxygen to protect it's intellectual
property, however when that becomes so restrictive as to disadvantage
your legimitate clients, then you need to rethink it. Your policy is
clear enough and has been further clarified in the multitude of
responses to posts, but I think you are missing the point. On the
whole I don't think the majority of people are ignorant of your
licencing policy, rather that they don't agree with it and think it is
unfair. They like your product and want to buy it, but not under those
conditions. They do not want to have to keep forking out dosh just so
they can keep the option to upgrade their phone and have the software
they have already bought keep working. It turned me off and I think a
lot of people are probably not buying it because of this reason. You
may even find that more people are obtaining it illegally to avoid the
issue.
Gus
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- 09-30-2003, 11:13 PM #2Brian WatsonGuest
Re: LogoManager v Oxygen v PC Suite
"gusthebluefish" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I understand the desire of Oxygen to protect it's intellectual
> property, however when that becomes so restrictive as to disadvantage
> your legimitate clients, then you need to rethink it. Your policy is
> clear enough and has been further clarified in the multitude of
> responses to posts, but I think you are missing the point. On the
> whole I don't think the majority of people are ignorant of your
> licencing policy, rather that they don't agree with it and think it is
> unfair. They like your product and want to buy it, but not under those
> conditions. They do not want to have to keep forking out dosh just so
> they can keep the option to upgrade their phone and have the software
> they have already bought keep working. It turned me off and I think a
> lot of people are probably not buying it because of this reason. You
> may even find that more people are obtaining it illegally to avoid the
> issue.
Good to see the matter fairly addressed.
--
Brian
"Style advisor to the seasonally-challenged"
- 10-01-2003, 02:02 AM #3Dolphin BoyGuest
Re: LogoManager v Oxygen v PC Suite
"gusthebluefish" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There is a lot of debate raging over the merits of each of the above
> products (perhaps not so many merits with PC Suite other than it
> really is free). After much frustration trying to get PC Suite
working
> properly with a 6610 and DKU-5 cable I gave up and bought
> LogoManager's MobiMB program. It fills the gap nicely of the
functions
> of PC Suite I just couldn't get working - namely uploading tones,
> backgrounds, games.
>
> It's an interesting market, with only 3 real contenders (the free
one
> from Nokia and 2 competing commercial products) and the authors of
the
> 3rd party products actively participating in the online debates. It
> would be nice to see Nokia participate and defend their product, but
> you can't have everything.
>
> For what it's worth, here are my reasons for making the choice I
did:
> 1. LogoManager is cheaper. While Oxygen has much more features, I
> couldn't really justify the up front cost when the only bits I
really
> needed are what LM provides.
> 2. I was not comfortable with the licence arrangement of Oxygen.
> Regular readers will be well aware of the debate raging over this so
> here is my 2c:
>
> I understand the desire of Oxygen to protect it's intellectual
> property, however when that becomes so restrictive as to
disadvantage
> your legimitate clients, then you need to rethink it. Your policy is
> clear enough and has been further clarified in the multitude of
> responses to posts, but I think you are missing the point. On the
> whole I don't think the majority of people are ignorant of your
> licencing policy, rather that they don't agree with it and think it
is
> unfair. They like your product and want to buy it, but not under
those
> conditions. They do not want to have to keep forking out dosh just
so
> they can keep the option to upgrade their phone and have the
software
> they have already bought keep working. It turned me off and I think
a
> lot of people are probably not buying it because of this reason. You
> may even find that more people are obtaining it illegally to avoid
the
> issue.
>
> Gus
Thanks for that Gus. Clarity.
- 10-01-2003, 02:22 AM #4Christopher PollardGuest
Re: LogoManager v Oxygen v PC Suite
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:02:50 +0100, "Dolphin Boy" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> It
>> would be nice to see Nokia participate and defend their product, but
>> you can't have everything.
I suspect that nokia read this group, but don't post otherwise they would be
inundated with FAQs.
If you were Nokia, wouldn't you follow a newsgroup dedicated to your product?
Chris Pollard
--
CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines
http://www.cginternet.net
- 10-03-2003, 05:20 AM #5akGuest
Re: LogoManager v Oxygen v PC Suite
As you said it's all about choice. me I find Oxygen(trial version) is great
fro backing up stuff. where as PC suit is good for syncing with outlook
which is for me the most importent. If Oxygen had a sync feature rather then
import / export that was equal or better the PC suit I would spend the $$.
at this stage even with the exchange rate fromm $AU I could not justify the
purchase .
"gusthebluefish" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There is a lot of debate raging over the merits of each of the above
> products (perhaps not so many merits with PC Suite other than it
> really is free). After much frustration trying to get PC Suite working
> properly with a 6610 and DKU-5 cable I gave up and bought
> LogoManager's MobiMB program. It fills the gap nicely of the functions
> of PC Suite I just couldn't get working - namely uploading tones,
> backgrounds, games.
>
> It's an interesting market, with only 3 real contenders (the free one
> from Nokia and 2 competing commercial products) and the authors of the
> 3rd party products actively participating in the online debates. It
> would be nice to see Nokia participate and defend their product, but
> you can't have everything.
>
> For what it's worth, here are my reasons for making the choice I did:
> 1. LogoManager is cheaper. While Oxygen has much more features, I
> couldn't really justify the up front cost when the only bits I really
> needed are what LM provides.
> 2. I was not comfortable with the licence arrangement of Oxygen.
> Regular readers will be well aware of the debate raging over this so
> here is my 2c:
>
> I understand the desire of Oxygen to protect it's intellectual
> property, however when that becomes so restrictive as to disadvantage
> your legimitate clients, then you need to rethink it. Your policy is
> clear enough and has been further clarified in the multitude of
> responses to posts, but I think you are missing the point. On the
> whole I don't think the majority of people are ignorant of your
> licencing policy, rather that they don't agree with it and think it is
> unfair. They like your product and want to buy it, but not under those
> conditions. They do not want to have to keep forking out dosh just so
> they can keep the option to upgrade their phone and have the software
> they have already bought keep working. It turned me off and I think a
> lot of people are probably not buying it because of this reason. You
> may even find that more people are obtaining it illegally to avoid the
> issue.
>
> Gus
- 10-03-2003, 05:20 AM #6tuned by RÄZOGuest
Re: LogoManager v Oxygen v PC Suite
"Christopher Pollard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:02:50 +0100, "Dolphin Boy"
<[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| > It
| >> would be nice to see Nokia participate and defend their product, but
| >> you can't have everything.
|
| I suspect that nokia read this group, but don't post otherwise they would
be
| inundated with FAQs.
and a lot of technical problems would be asked too ...eg why is there no
netmonitor on DCT4, blabla ;-)
| If you were Nokia, wouldn't you follow a newsgroup dedicated to your
product?
|
|
| Chris Pollard
|
| --
| CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines
| http://www.cginternet.net
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