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  1. #1
    Rog
    Guest
    Hi Group,

    New to this group, a quick question regarding Nokia and Car Kits.

    I work with a company who has 6 employees running company cars all fitted
    with a car kit (hard wired type, not blue tooth) that fits our Nokia 6310i
    phones.

    We are all about to get new cars, but we have heard that the 6310i is the
    last in the line of this type/shape/connection and our car kits will be
    redundant.

    We run with t mobile and our phone upgrades are a little restricted, can any
    body shed some light on what new phone we should go for - we love the
    functionality of the 6310i and dont need colour screens etc - any advice?

    I like the looks of the 6610 but its not bluetooth, i figure that a
    bluetooth car kit will allow us to be a little future proofed? as we have to
    have the cars for 3 years - but typically phones dont run for this long.

    Thanks in advance

    Roger





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  2. #2
    Arthur
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits


    "Rog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Group,
    >
    > New to this group, a quick question regarding Nokia and Car Kits.
    >
    > I work with a company who has 6 employees running company cars all fitted
    > with a car kit (hard wired type, not blue tooth) that fits our Nokia 6310i
    > phones.
    >
    > We are all about to get new cars, but we have heard that the 6310i is the
    > last in the line of this type/shape/connection and our car kits will be
    > redundant.
    >
    > We run with t mobile and our phone upgrades are a little restricted, can

    any
    > body shed some light on what new phone we should go for - we love the
    > functionality of the 6310i and dont need colour screens etc - any advice?
    >
    > I like the looks of the 6610 but its not bluetooth, i figure that a
    > bluetooth car kit will allow us to be a little future proofed? as we have

    to
    > have the cars for 3 years - but typically phones dont run for this long.
    >
    > Thanks in advance
    >
    > Roger


    Roger, I have exactly the same problem.
    Had a 6210 with a car kit, changed my car 2 years ago and moved the car kit
    across.
    Replaced the 6210 with a 6310i a year ago, it works in the same car kit.
    New car due next spring. If the 6310 is still available then, I will get a
    new one and move the car kit across again.
    If the 6310 is discontinued by then I will have the same question as you.

    The 6310i is an *ideal* phone for business - sensible size with buttons you
    can hit reliably, bluetooth to connect to laptop. Nokia would be wrong to
    stop making it (but I'm sure they will)

    - Arthur





  3. #3
    Adam Greatrix
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits

    "Rog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I work with a company who has 6 employees running company cars all fitted
    > with a car kit (hard wired type, not blue tooth) that fits our Nokia 6310i
    > phones.
    >
    > We are all about to get new cars, but we have heard that the 6310i is the
    > last in the line of this type/shape/connection and our car kits will be
    > redundant.
    >
    > We run with t mobile and our phone upgrades are a little restricted, can

    any
    > body shed some light on what new phone we should go for - we love the
    > functionality of the 6310i and dont need colour screens etc - any advice?
    >
    > I like the looks of the 6610 but its not bluetooth, i figure that a
    > bluetooth car kit will allow us to be a little future proofed? as we have

    to
    > have the cars for 3 years - but typically phones dont run for this long.


    I upgraded from a 6310i as I liked all of the features it had, although
    didn't need bluetooth with having IR for my needs. I also had the Cark 91.
    When I upgraded it there were a couple of phones that did everything the
    6310i did. These were the 7210 and 7250i. Both are great phones and have all
    of the business features of the 6310i. Although Bluetooth may be useful as
    you say, not all phones have it. And with other wireless technologies
    surpassing the features of bluetooth in price, size, ease of use, security,
    and with fewer compatibility problems, I feel that Bluetooth may well go the
    same was as Betamax video and Video Laser Discs. From what I understand from
    Nokia, all of their new 3, 6 and 7 series phones for the foreseeable future
    will use the current connecter that the likes of the 7210 and 7250 use. This
    is their new standard and will be supported well into the future, certainly
    longer than 3 years.

    The Cark 126 is the car kit that uses this new connecter type. Similar, but
    updated, to the Cark 91 and seems just as reliable. The kit comes in
    different parts when compared to the Cark 91. You will need the Cark 126
    (the brain of the unit), the MBC-15S phone cradle (with the current standard
    of connector mentioned above), and an AXF-15S antenna coupler. This setup
    should work with 3100, 6100, 6220, 6610, 7210, 7250 and 7250i, plus any
    future phone fitting this profile. Obviously Nokia will being out new phones
    that will not fit in this cradle such as the 9 series which are always brick
    shaped and sized.

    Bluetooth is a great thing, but it consumes batteries and a lot of people
    like the fact that when you put your phone into a car kit it charges it too,
    this obviously doesn't happen with a bluetooth car kit unless you fit a
    charging cradle or plug it into a charger. But if you're doing that why not
    just get a cheaper and more reliable non-bluetooth car kit which charges?
    However, Bluetooth does have the advantage that you don't have to fiddle
    around getting your phone out of the case and putting it into the cradle and
    vice versa each time you get in/out of your car. You're also less likely to
    forget your phone and leave it in the cradle for all to steal in full view.

    Having said all of that, if the 6310i does everything you want, and you
    already have cark91s installed. Why change? The Cark91 can easily be removed
    and put in your new cars...

    Adam





  4. #4
    Olaf Peuss
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits

    "Arthur" wrote:

    > The 6310i is an *ideal* phone for business - sensible size with buttons
    > you can hit reliably, bluetooth to connect to laptop. Nokia would be
    > wrong to stop making it (but I'm sure they will)


    100% ACK. Eventually, however, every phone model will be discontinued, even
    the most successful one. That's just what happens in hightech industries
    such as mobile phone manufacturing: product cycles decrease at a pace faster
    than the speed of light. :-)
    Hopefully Nokia will be sensible enough to continue the enormously
    successful 6110-6310i series with a business phone that doesn't make all the
    hitherto purchased accessories utterly redundant.


    Kind regards,
    Olaf

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    Messages to "from" address will be deleted unread.




  5. #5
    Adam Greatrix
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits

    Oh yeah, 2 other points about Bluetooth car kits which you may want to bare
    in mind is that it will connect to your paired phone every time you turn the
    ignition on. If you want to have a private conversation or use the phone
    without the car kit when you're in your car you have to diconnect it
    manually.

    Also, and this is a quit important in my opinion, as far as I know (and
    someone feel free to correct me here if I'm wrong) there's no external
    aerial connection for the Bluetooth car kit. There is a connection for a
    charging lead on the Bluetooth phone holder (if you decide to use a holder
    that is), but no aerial connection.

    It may be possible the Bluetooth kits for the newer phones can be used with
    a seperate antenna coupler in the same way as you do with the wired kits.
    However, I'm basing this on the Nokia Bluetooth kit I've seen for a 6310i
    which, if it worked like the Cark 91 should have had an antenna connection.
    Someone want to confirm or deny this?

    Adam





  6. #6
    Dolphin Boy
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits


    "Olaf Peuss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Arthur" wrote:
    >
    > > The 6310i is an *ideal* phone for business - sensible size with

    buttons
    > > you can hit reliably, bluetooth to connect to laptop. Nokia would

    be
    > > wrong to stop making it (but I'm sure they will)

    >
    > 100% ACK. Eventually, however, every phone model will be

    discontinued, even
    > the most successful one. That's just what happens in hightech

    industries
    > such as mobile phone manufacturing: product cycles decrease at a

    pace faster
    > than the speed of light. :-)
    > Hopefully Nokia will be sensible enough to continue the enormously
    > successful 6110-6310i series with a business phone that doesn't make

    all the
    > hitherto purchased accessories utterly redundant.
    >


    Bring back the 7110!!! ;-) a 6210 with style!





  7. #7
    Rog
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits

    Thank You People, Will update if I find the right answer!


    "Rog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Group,
    >
    > New to this group, a quick question regarding Nokia and Car Kits.
    >
    > I work with a company who has 6 employees running company cars all fitted
    > with a car kit (hard wired type, not blue tooth) that fits our Nokia 6310i
    > phones.
    >
    > We are all about to get new cars, but we have heard that the 6310i is the
    > last in the line of this type/shape/connection and our car kits will be
    > redundant.
    >
    > We run with t mobile and our phone upgrades are a little restricted, can

    any
    > body shed some light on what new phone we should go for - we love the
    > functionality of the 6310i and dont need colour screens etc - any advice?
    >
    > I like the looks of the 6610 but its not bluetooth, i figure that a
    > bluetooth car kit will allow us to be a little future proofed? as we have

    to
    > have the cars for 3 years - but typically phones dont run for this long.
    >
    > Thanks in advance
    >
    > Roger
    >
    >






  8. #8
    Adam Greatrix
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits

    "Dolphin Boy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Bring back the 7110!!! ;-) a 6210 with style!


    I know - that roller was great - some people seemed to have problems with it
    breaking though - although I had one for years and had no problems at all!

    Adam





  9. #9
    G
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits

    "Adam Greatrix" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Oh yeah, 2 other points about Bluetooth car kits which you may want to

    bare
    > in mind is that it will connect to your paired phone every time you turn

    the
    > ignition on. If you want to have a private conversation or use the phone
    > without the car kit when you're in your car you have to diconnect it
    > manually.
    >
    > Also, and this is a quit important in my opinion, as far as I know (and
    > someone feel free to correct me here if I'm wrong) there's no external
    > aerial connection for the Bluetooth car kit. There is a connection for a
    > charging lead on the Bluetooth phone holder (if you decide to use a holder
    > that is), but no aerial connection.
    >
    > It may be possible the Bluetooth kits for the newer phones can be used

    with
    > a seperate antenna coupler in the same way as you do with the wired kits.
    > However, I'm basing this on the Nokia Bluetooth kit I've seen for a 6310i
    > which, if it worked like the Cark 91 should have had an antenna

    connection.
    > Someone want to confirm or deny this?


    Yep, no aerial. However, I've not really had problems with this 'cause
    coverage is pretty comprehensive on Orange. Big downside if coverage is poor
    though (can you get separate antennas to compensate??).

    Regarding the private conversation side of things, you can set the BT on the
    phone to not be discoverable, this way the phone won't connect by default at
    ignition time, but you'd then have to connect to the kit manually. Just an
    option. My favourite thing with the BT kit is when you start a call, get in
    the car, connect to the kit and carry on talking, get where you're going,
    disconnect from the kit and head off, without a break/interruption in the
    conversation or having to fiddle around too much.





  10. #10
    Ivor Jones
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits


    "G" <cool_and_funky@*-nospamthanks_*yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > Regarding the private conversation side of things, you can set the BT on

    the
    > phone to not be discoverable, this way the phone won't connect by

    default at
    > ignition time, but you'd then have to connect to the kit manually. Just

    an
    > option. My favourite thing with the BT kit is when you start a call,

    get in
    > the car, connect to the kit and carry on talking, get where you're

    going,
    > disconnect from the kit and head off, without a break/interruption in

    the
    > conversation or having to fiddle around too much.


    You can do this with the CARK-91 as well, if you're in a call when you put
    the phone in the cradle, it goes to handsfree. Take it out and it's back
    to the phone. The CARK-91 also has the option of using the HSU-1 external
    handset, which is useful if a passenger wants to use the phone, as they're
    rarely close enough to the car kit mike to get a good audio level.

    Plus it has the external aerial (not antenna please, an antenna is one
    half of what an insect has on its head..!) socket, and it will charge the
    battery..!

    Don't much like Bluetooth, have used it but prefer hard wired connections,
    much more reliable in my experience.

    Ivor





  11. #11
    Adam Greatrix
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits

    "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Plus it has the external aerial (not antenna please, an antenna is one
    > half of what an insect has on its head..!) socket, and it will charge the
    > battery..!


    But then "aerial" means rising aloft in the air, such as an aerial platform
    (ok, not a noun)...

    Seriously though, I've always wondered what the specific difference between
    an aerial and an antenna is - one maybe more American and one more British?
    I've been messing around with CB, Amateur Radio, Scanners and other radio
    equipment for over two decades and this has never been made clear.

    My dictionaries say for antenna:

    "A metallic apparatus for sending or receiving electromagnetic waves."
    and
    "sends or receives radio or television signals"

    and for aerial:

    "A radio antenna, especially one suspended in or extending into the air."

    So given just that information, one could argue that as the aerial/antennas
    on Nokia phones these days aren't exactly "suspended or extending into the
    air" that "antenna" would be more accurate.

    Both "antenna" and "aerial" have other meanings as do many words such as
    lead (metal) and lead (connecting wire), tear (crying) or tear (rip), live
    (live band) and live (staying alive).

    Adam





  12. #12
    Group Special Mobile
    Guest

    Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:27:33 +0100, "Adam Greatrix"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Seriously though, I've always wondered what the specific difference between
    >an aerial and an antenna is - one maybe more American and one more British?


    That's the exact difference. Aerial in the UK antenna in the US.
    Bonnet in the UK hood in the US. Torch in the UK flashlight in the
    US.

    Nokia handsets have different menus depending on the country between
    the UK and US versions. UK version handsets have call register US
    versions have call log. UK versions have call diversion, US version
    has call forwarding.

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