Still stuck with 6310i and bluetooth.

I am using W98se on my 'puta and when I first got the phone it was
only 4.8

So reading the posts here, I got it uped to 5.51

Alas I still can't connect them.



Going to Nokia's home page the "suggestions" are probably written for
XP.

I don't have a "bluetooth nieghbourhood"



I run the connection program and I see the phone, I double click and
set it to com port 3 (as per what I see in the settings/com ports as
being told is the bluetooth RS232 port) but it just won't connect.


Anyone mind giving me a walk thorough?

Please.








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› See More: Still stuck with 6310i and bluetooth.

Typical Microsoft-y response here I'm afraid.

Have you tried uninstalling *all* evidence of Bluetooth and nokia software
on your PC and then reinstalling it again (rebooting between each action)?
This has helped for some people. If you are using a BT dongle ( I assume you
are) and it uses the Widcomm stack, make sure you have version 1.3.2.7 or
later (and when installing, make *sure* you uninstalled the previous
version, and reboot, *before* installing the latest version). I use 1.3.2.7
myself, and although it drives my dongle ok, its still a bit flaky at best.
Installing Widcomm will give you your Bluetooth neighbourhood (although not
100% sure as I've not put it on my win98 PC) and will let you pair with the
phone. Obviously, if you ain't using Widcomm ignore that lot! :-)

Other thing to try to make sure the phone is working correctly, download the
demo of Oxygen Phone manager II (or the TDK mobile program) and see if
that'll connect to your phone over BT. At least if it does then you know the
phone side of things is working properly and its the Nokia data suite that's
not working. And sorry if this seems insulting, but check they did actually
up the phone to v5.51 (*#0000#).

HTH.

G

"Jarod (the puppy)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am using W98se on my 'puta and when I first got the phone it was
> only 4.8
>
> So reading the posts here, I got it uped to 5.51
>
> Alas I still can't connect them.
>
>
>
> Going to Nokia's home page the "suggestions" are probably written for
> XP.
>
> I don't have a "bluetooth nieghbourhood"
>
>
>
> I run the connection program and I see the phone, I double click and
> set it to com port 3 (as per what I see in the settings/com ports as
> being told is the bluetooth RS232 port) but it just won't connect.
>
>
> Anyone mind giving me a walk thorough?
>
> Please.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ========
> Thanks.....
>
> Jarod
>
>

mmm, I had 5.22 on my 6310i, and had flawless connections to my Palm
Tungsten T.

Just had phone flashed to v5.50 and now wont connect to TT.

Just a constant connect/disconnect/connect/disconnect until I cancel
it

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:04:12 GMT, "Jarod (the puppy)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I am using W98se on my 'puta and when I first got the phone it was
>only 4.8
>
>So reading the posts here, I got it uped to 5.51
>
>Alas I still can't connect them.
>
>
>
>Going to Nokia's home page the "suggestions" are probably written for
>XP.
>
>I don't have a "bluetooth nieghbourhood"
>
>
>
>I run the connection program and I see the phone, I double click and
>set it to com port 3 (as per what I see in the settings/com ports as
>being told is the bluetooth RS232 port) but it just won't connect.
>
>
>Anyone mind giving me a walk thorough?
>
>Please.



Regards,

Moby

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"G" == "G" writes:

G> Typical Microsoft-y response here I'm afraid.
G>
G> Have you tried uninstalling *all* evidence of Bluetooth and nokia
G> software on your PC and then reinstalling it again (rebooting
G> between each action)? This has helped for some people. If you are
G> using a BT dongle ( I assume you

I was reading BT as British Telecom for a while then realised the
other meaning.

No mine is a AON -- racewood one. BTD-2403

White plastic with clear/opaque window to see an LED. Hinge in the
middle.

G> Other thing to try to make sure the phone is working correctly,
G> download the demo of Oxygen Phone manager II (or the TDK mobile
G> program) and see if that'll connect to your phone over BT. At
G> least if it does then you know the phone side of things is working
G> properly and its the Nokia data suite that's not working. And
G> sorry if this seems insulting, but check they did actually up the
G> phone to v5.51 (*#0000#).

Yes it is now 5.51 -- got it done today.

The program on the CD which came with the Dongle has a "if using
W98se run this before installing" program which I did.

The funny thing is that I don't have a "bluetooth nieghbourhood" to
be seen anywhere and as a mate mentioned, nor do I have a bluetooth
icon in the tooltray.

Bugga!

Now, another "problem" is in my efforts to re-install the software
settings/modems has two iterations of bluetooth devices which I hope
is not a problem.

The second set is (obviously?) appended #2 on their names.


Anyway, there is also a bluetooth "monitor" and explorer kind of
program which can see the phone and I can "mate" them quite ok. The
phone asks if I want to pair (not mate sorry.) them and I say ok, and
enter the number. They pair but then the phone says "Disconnected!"
and I am a bit suspicious.


Does this help anyone help me?


Thanks though for your reply.


Shall study a bit more.



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"M" == "Moby" writes:

M> mmm, I had 5.22 on my 6310i, and had flawless connections to my
M> Palm Tungsten T.
M>
M> Just had phone flashed to v5.50 and now wont connect to TT.
M>
M> Just a constant connect/disconnect/connect/disconnect until I
M> cancel it

Well when I run PC-suite it just says outright: Phone not connected.


So I can't connect to disconnect.



In the connection manager (which won't really let me connect either)
how do I set it up?


I click the bluetooth icon and it asks me which COM port.

In settings/modems COM3 is bluetooth RS232 so I am guessing that is
what I select.

Selecting that then saying connect, I get an error saying something
like "Can't connect" which doesn't really tell me much at all.





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"Jarod (the puppy)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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<snip>
> No mine is a AON -- racewood one. BTD-2403

** One thing people don't always realise when buying Bluetooth devices is
that they do not all automatically interwork (like e.g.WiFi network devices
should). Different suppliers have different firmware stacks and support
different versions of the Bluetooth standard. To be reasonably sure that you
can discount BT stack problems you need to be using a well known, proven,
and up-to-date BT stack such as that from Widcomm (1.3.2.7 or later). If you
are on a little known or old version it is difficult to rule out problems
with the stack. Buying a very cheap BT device is a potential first step to
major grief. Always check that there is a web site offering support and
software downloads :-) **

> White plastic with clear/opaque window to see an LED. Hinge in the
> middle.
<snip>
> The funny thing is that I don't have a "bluetooth nieghbourhood" to
> be seen anywhere and as a mate mentioned, nor do I have a bluetooth
> icon in the tooltray.
** You would only have this (AFAIK) if you were using the Widcomm stack. **
<snip>
> Now, another "problem" is in my efforts to re-install the software
> settings/modems has two iterations of bluetooth devices which I hope
> is not a problem.
>
> The second set is (obviously?) appended #2 on their names.
** This is potentially Not A Good Thing. Better to remove all instances of
bluetooth devices and reboot to check they are really gone. Then re-install
the software. **
> Anyway, there is also a bluetooth "monitor" and explorer kind of
> program which can see the phone and I can "mate" them quite ok. The
> phone asks if I want to pair (not mate sorry.) them and I say ok, and
> enter the number. They pair but then the phone says "Disconnected!"
> and I am a bit suspicious.
** This is the equivalent of the 'Bluetooth Neighbourhood'. Sounds like you
are nearly there. There are normally two stages to getting BT working. (1)
Pair the devices - this means that it is O.K. for them to talk to each
other. You can pair a large number of devices; many more than you can use at
any one time. (2) Connect to the device. This establishes a session with a
previously paired device. Your 'explorer' program should give you the option
to connect, or your application (such as Nokia Suite) should set up the
connection. If using Nokia Suite check that you are using the correct serial
(virtual serial) port to connect. **
<snip>

"DWER" == "David W.E. Roberts" writes:

DWER> ** One thing people don't always realise when buying Bluetooth
DWER> devices is that they do not all automatically interwork (like
DWER> e.g.WiFi network devices should). Different suppliers have
DWER> different firmware stacks and support different versions of the
DWER> Bluetooth standard. To be reasonably sure that you can discount
DWER> BT stack problems you need to be using a well known, proven,
DWER> and up-to-date BT stack such as that from Widcomm (1.3.2.7 or
DWER> later). If you are on a little known or old version it is
DWER> difficult to rule out problems with the stack. Buying a very
DWER> cheap BT device is a potential first step to major grief.
DWER> Always check that there is a web site offering support and
DWER> software downloads :-) **

Shall follow up on that.

The dongle is a racedwood BTD-2403 (AON)

DWER> ** You would only have this (AFAIK) if you were using the
DWER> Widcomm stack. **
DWER> <snip>

But where does this get introduced?

DWER> ** This is potentially Not A Good Thing. Better to remove all
DWER> instances of bluetooth devices and reboot to check they are
DWER> really gone. Then re-install the software. **

Well, the CD which came with the dongle has a program and I think
that is the thing which installed them.

How do I remove them?

Going into settings/modems and deleting them caused me grief last
time. (Or I believe it was that which caused the problem)

DWER> ** This is the equivalent of the 'Bluetooth Neighbourhood'.
DWER> Sounds like you are nearly there. There are normally two stages
DWER> to getting BT working. (1) Pair the devices - this means that
DWER> it is O.K. for them to talk to each other. You can pair a large
DWER> number of devices; many more than you can use at any one time.
DWER> (2) Connect to the device. This establishes a session with a
DWER> previously paired device. Your 'explorer' program should give
DWER> you the option to connect, or your application (such as Nokia
DWER> Suite) should set up the connection. If using Nokia Suite check
DWER> that you are using the correct serial (virtual serial) port to
DWER> connect. **


I was going to ask something but now I can't remember.

Oh!

MPAPI3S error. (I think.)


That is an error I get alot when looking at settings/modems or trying
to run the programs to talk to the phone.









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Jarod

"Jarod (the puppy)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| "DWER" == "David W.E. Roberts" writes:
|
| DWER> ** One thing people don't always realise when buying Bluetooth
| DWER> devices is that they do not all automatically interwork (like
| DWER> e.g.WiFi network devices should). Different suppliers have
| DWER> different firmware stacks and support different versions of the
| DWER> Bluetooth standard. To be reasonably sure that you can discount
| DWER> BT stack problems you need to be using a well known, proven,
| DWER> and up-to-date BT stack such as that from Widcomm (1.3.2.7 or
| DWER> later). If you are on a little known or old version it is
| DWER> difficult to rule out problems with the stack. Buying a very
| DWER> cheap BT device is a potential first step to major grief.
| DWER> Always check that there is a web site offering support and
| DWER> software downloads :-) **
|
| Shall follow up on that.
|
| The dongle is a racedwood BTD-2403 (AON)
|
| DWER> ** You would only have this (AFAIK) if you were using the
| DWER> Widcomm stack. **
| DWER> <snip>
|
| But where does this get introduced?
|
| DWER> ** This is potentially Not A Good Thing. Better to remove all
| DWER> instances of bluetooth devices and reboot to check they are
| DWER> really gone. Then re-install the software. **
|
| Well, the CD which came with the dongle has a program and I think
| that is the thing which installed them.
|
| How do I remove them?
|
| Going into settings/modems and deleting them caused me grief last
| time. (Or I believe it was that which caused the problem)
|
| DWER> ** This is the equivalent of the 'Bluetooth Neighbourhood'.
| DWER> Sounds like you are nearly there. There are normally two stages
| DWER> to getting BT working. (1) Pair the devices - this means that
| DWER> it is O.K. for them to talk to each other. You can pair a large
| DWER> number of devices; many more than you can use at any one time.
| DWER> (2) Connect to the device. This establishes a session with a
| DWER> previously paired device. Your 'explorer' program should give
| DWER> you the option to connect, or your application (such as Nokia
| DWER> Suite) should set up the connection. If using Nokia Suite check
| DWER> that you are using the correct serial (virtual serial) port to
| DWER> connect. **
|
|
| I was going to ask something but now I can't remember.
|
| Oh!
|
| MPAPI3S error. (I think.)
|
|
| That is an error I get alot when looking at settings/modems or trying
| to run the programs to talk to the phone.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| --
| ========
| Thanks.....
|
| Jarod
|
All these problems with bluetooth makes me stick with IR instead.....

I had a look at your dongle, and it doesn't appear to use the Widcomm stack
(something called BlueManager instead I think), and I've had no dealings
with this so I can't really offer another solution without being able to
look at the stack you're using - but I suspect that's the problem. I also
read (and forgot to copy the link - sorry!) of someone else trying to
connect to a 6310i with the same dongle you're using; the solution that guy
came up with was to bin the dongle and buy a new one - which solved his
problems!

To be honest, if you've got a spare 20 quid, I'd advise getting a different
dongle, one *with* the Widcomm stack, as this is known to work with nokia
phones (barring the earlier firmware issues). If you've got the cash, the
TDK ones are meant to be pretty good, and TDK seems to have a rep for
updating the drivers frequently; I use an MSI (6967) dongle and it works OK
with my 6310i, but they ain't so good at updating the drivers (the dongle
cost me about 20 quid from dabs.com). It'll save you a lot of hassle and
time in the end!

Sorry I couldn't help more!

G

"Jarod (the puppy)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "DWER" == "David W.E. Roberts" writes:
>
> DWER> ** One thing people don't always realise when buying Bluetooth
> DWER> devices is that they do not all automatically interwork (like
> DWER> e.g.WiFi network devices should). Different suppliers have
> DWER> different firmware stacks and support different versions of the
> DWER> Bluetooth standard. To be reasonably sure that you can discount
> DWER> BT stack problems you need to be using a well known, proven,
> DWER> and up-to-date BT stack such as that from Widcomm (1.3.2.7 or
> DWER> later). If you are on a little known or old version it is
> DWER> difficult to rule out problems with the stack. Buying a very
> DWER> cheap BT device is a potential first step to major grief.
> DWER> Always check that there is a web site offering support and
> DWER> software downloads :-) **
>
> Shall follow up on that.
>
> The dongle is a racedwood BTD-2403 (AON)
>
> DWER> ** You would only have this (AFAIK) if you were using the
> DWER> Widcomm stack. **
> DWER> <snip>
>
> But where does this get introduced?
>
> DWER> ** This is potentially Not A Good Thing. Better to remove all
> DWER> instances of bluetooth devices and reboot to check they are
> DWER> really gone. Then re-install the software. **
>
> Well, the CD which came with the dongle has a program and I think
> that is the thing which installed them.
>
> How do I remove them?
>
> Going into settings/modems and deleting them caused me grief last
> time. (Or I believe it was that which caused the problem)
>
> DWER> ** This is the equivalent of the 'Bluetooth Neighbourhood'.
> DWER> Sounds like you are nearly there. There are normally two stages
> DWER> to getting BT working. (1) Pair the devices - this means that
> DWER> it is O.K. for them to talk to each other. You can pair a large
> DWER> number of devices; many more than you can use at any one time.
> DWER> (2) Connect to the device. This establishes a session with a
> DWER> previously paired device. Your 'explorer' program should give
> DWER> you the option to connect, or your application (such as Nokia
> DWER> Suite) should set up the connection. If using Nokia Suite check
> DWER> that you are using the correct serial (virtual serial) port to
> DWER> connect. **
>
>
> I was going to ask something but now I can't remember.
>
> Oh!
>
> MPAPI3S error. (I think.)
>
>
> That is an error I get alot when looking at settings/modems or trying
> to run the programs to talk to the phone.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ========
> Thanks.....
>
> Jarod
>
>

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:32:49 +0800, Moby
<[email protected]> wrote:

>mmm, I had 5.22 on my 6310i, and had flawless connections to my Palm
>Tungsten T.
>
>Just had phone flashed to v5.50 and now wont connect to TT.
>
>Just a constant connect/disconnect/connect/disconnect until I cancel
>it
>
>On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:04:12 GMT, "Jarod (the puppy)"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I am using W98se on my 'puta and when I first got the phone it was
>>only 4.8
>>
>>So reading the posts here, I got it uped to 5.51
>>
>>Alas I still can't connect them.
Are you using the PC Suite connectoid?
Otherwise re-pair the two devices.
>>
>>
>>Going to Nokia's home page the "suggestions" are probably written for
>>XP.
>>
>>I don't have a "bluetooth nieghbourhood"
>>
>>
>>
>>I run the connection program and I see the phone, I double click and
>>set it to com port 3 (as per what I see in the settings/com ports as
>>being told is the bluetooth RS232 port) but it just won't connect.
>>
>>
>>Anyone mind giving me a walk thorough?
>>
>>Please.
For PC suite
pair the PC and phone to PC Suite connectoid entering same code on
both devices.

Phone will show connected then disconnected.
open nokia connection manager and select bluetooth icon
click on 'bluetooth phone' and when popup box appears choose you BT
com port (3 in your case)

All being well the phone should now be connected

Start PC Suite

HTH


Alan
Take DogForAWalk before replying by e-mail

"aw" == "[email protected]" writes:

aw> >>I am using W98se on my 'puta and when I first got the phone it
aw> >>was only 4.8
aw> >>
aw> >>So reading the posts here, I got it uped to 5.51
aw> >>
aw> >>Alas I still can't connect them.

aw> Are you using the PC Suite connectoid? Otherwise re-pair the two
aw> devices.

Well I pair them with the "other" software which came with the
dongle.

The phone shows it ack's the pairing as my 'puta is listed in its
list.

aw> For PC suite
aw> pair the PC and phone to PC Suite connectoid entering same code
aw> on both devices.

conectoid?

Lost me there. But as said above, the two are paired.

aw> Phone will show connected then disconnected.

Yup. That is what happens with the other software which came with
the dongle.

aw> open nokia connection manager and select bluetooth icon click on
aw> 'bluetooth phone' and when popup box appears choose you BT com
aw> port (3 in your case)

That's what I do.

aw> All being well the phone should now be connected

Well, that is where it stops being so good.

Today -- just now -- it said the COM3 port was busy and to check it
wasn't in use by some other app. (Yeah, right. It should be
free...)

Then as I am starting to go to settings/modems to look (dunno why) I
get a:

MPAPI3S error on the screen.

These are typical for the system and I am stuffed if I know WHO is
causing it. It is a NOKIA program but they deny all responsibility
for it. (Typical)


I posted a report of what I could get form it to this group if it
would help you help me.






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Jarod

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:57:51 GMT, "Jarod (the puppy)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"aw" == "[email protected]" writes:
>
>aw> >>I am using W98se on my 'puta and when I first got the phone it
>aw> >>was only 4.8
>aw> >>
>aw> >>So reading the posts here, I got it uped to 5.51
>aw> >>
>aw> >>Alas I still can't connect them.
>
>aw> Are you using the PC Suite connectoid? Otherwise re-pair the two
>aw> devices.
>
>Well I pair them with the "other" software which came with the
>dongle.
>
>The phone shows it ack's the pairing as my 'puta is listed in its
>list.
>
>aw> For PC suite
>aw> pair the PC and phone to PC Suite connectoid entering same code
>aw> on both devices.
>
>conectoid?
Possibly called a 'service' in your software
>Lost me there. But as said above, the two are paired.
>
>aw> Phone will show connected then disconnected.
>
>Yup. That is what happens with the other software which came with
>the dongle.
>
>aw> open nokia connection manager and select bluetooth icon click on
>aw> 'bluetooth phone' and when popup box appears choose you BT com
>aw> port (3 in your case)
>
>That's what I do.
>
>aw> All being well the phone should now be connected
>
>Well, that is where it stops being so good.
>
>Today -- just now -- it said the COM3 port was busy and to check it
>wasn't in use by some other app. (Yeah, right. It should be
>free...)
>
>Then as I am starting to go to settings/modems to look (dunno why) I
>get a:
>
>MPAPI3S error on the screen.
That's an error with Nokia Data Suite/ PC Suite

>These are typical for the system and I am stuffed if I know WHO is
>causing it. It is a NOKIA program but they deny all responsibility
>for it. (Typical)
>
>
>I posted a report of what I could get form it to this group if it
>would help you help me.

I'd start by removing all traces of both Nokia PC suite and the BT
drivers and download the latest versions of both again.
I don't know if this is the same as your dongle but theres a link for
the Bluetooth Manager that your dongle uses in the thread here:

http://www.phonescoop.com/news_group...?g=5&id=709547

If that still doesn't work I'd have to agree with G, to get a dongle
with the Widcomm stack instead.


Alan
Take DogForAWalk before replying by e-mail

"aw" == "[email protected]" writes:

aw> >conectoid?

aw> Possibly called a 'service' in your software

Thanks.

aw> >MPAPI3S error on the screen.

aw> That's an error with Nokia Data Suite/ PC Suite

Well, I tried to re-install it again. Same problem.

Also, the problem happens even when I go into settings/modems.

So I think it is more systemic.

aw> I'd start by removing all traces of both Nokia PC suite and the
aw> BT drivers and download the latest versions of both again. I
aw> don't know if this is the same as your dongle but theres a link
aw> for the Bluetooth Manager that your dongle uses in the thread
aw> here:

Well, I tried going to their (racewood) homepage
(www.racewood.com.tw) and got squat.

Friends tell me that the only support is for XP.

I am trying to get my money back (large ammount - relaltive) and a
mate shall get me one which DOES work.

(Oh, it will have a WIDCOMM stack)



TTFN



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"aw" == "[email protected]" writes:

aw> I'd start by removing all traces of both Nokia PC suite and the
aw> BT drivers and download the latest versions of both again. I
aw> don't know if this is the same as your dongle but theres a link
aw> for the Bluetooth Manager that your dongle uses in the thread
aw> here:
aw>
aw> http://www.phonescoop.com/news_group...?g=5&id=709547
aw>
aw> If that still doesn't work I'd have to agree with G, to get a
aw> dongle with the Widcomm stack instead.


I can't get to that link.

When I click on that which you gave me, I get something like a log in
page.

http://www.phonescoop.com/forums/usenet.php

Is where I end up.

Anyway thanks again.




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