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  1. #1
    PDA Man
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    NEWS: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination
    Nokia is ramping up production of mobile phones containing cameras, and
    predicts it could soon become the world's biggest manufacturer of digital
    cameras.
    The plans are part of the Finnish handset maker's strategy to focus more on
    "imaging" products.
    Nokia chief executive Jorma Ollila told analysts late last week that the
    company intends to make cameras a part of nearly every kind of Nokia phone
    by the second half of 2004. A company representative said that represents a
    "significant" expansion from the current line-up, which includes 12 Nokia
    phones that are capable of taking still photographs and recording 15-second
    videos.

    A Nokia representative said: "We see it as inevitable that convergence of
    mobility and imaging will happen. Mobility boasts a number of benefits for
    imaging, as the device is with the user wherever he goes."
    Camera phones were first introduced in Japan about three years ago, and have
    since become so popular that some market analysts believe they've started
    outselling digital cameras. Nokia believes it could become the biggest
    digital camera manufacturer globally in 2003. Ollila said: "We want to be
    driving this phenomenon very strongly."
    Like most other handset makers, Nokia is designing phones to take advantage
    of a growing demand for services such as MMS, which allows emails to carry
    attachments such as documents, sound recordings or movie clips. MMS is
    expected to generate billions in extra revenue for carriers worldwide by
    2005, analysts say.

    SOURCE http://www.silicon.com/news/500018/1/6470.html





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  2. #2
    Martin Crosbie
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    Re: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination

    Nokia doesn't care about whether or not the phone has a camera, an actual
    phone, or a smelly yak inside their phones.

    they have very little consideration for anything except what it looks like,
    and what colour it is - and even then it means they try to build the most
    outlandish weird and anti-user design they can. Nokia's design team has
    nothing to do with Finland anymore - it all happens at some fashion artists
    poncy studio in Paris. why have a photo on your passport when you can have a
    portrait by Picasso? nokia made some great looking, useful handsets. 6310i,
    8910. but instead, they put forward the 3650 and 7600 - something that looks
    stupid, and sacrifices ease of use for 'art'. I can accept that a phone's
    looks are important to some people, but not at the price of being able to
    use it.

    hmm, mobile phones are outselling digital camera's??? wow didn't expect that
    one. who would have guessed that more people would buy a phone than a
    camera. statistics prove us wrong again. if phones start outselling ironing
    boards are they going to build them into phones aswell?

    note that 'imaging' doesn't mean video - which means they are going to
    continue to ignore the videophone market, and give us more MMS. In contrary
    to the last paragraph, MMS has absolutely nothing to do with email - its a
    pointless add on to SMS, with less than half of the capabilities of email.
    they could have had it much easier building email into the phones, and
    giving us a decent universal standard, rather than creating a new standard
    with some very severe shortcomings. they haven't even developed MMS much,
    since half the nokia handsets cannot cope with audio - meaning an entire
    third of the standard is hardly used.

    Nokia suck. my next phone cannot be a nokia, since I intend to move on to 3G
    like I should have done last year, and since nokia don't make a 3G phone,(
    the 6650/7600 do not support video calling - so are utterly useless) how do
    they expect to sell phones? are they going to be happy with making the old
    generation, and then folding up the company when GSM becomes completely
    obsolete? (it is being phased out now).

    Find me Nokia's teeth so I can kick them.

    Martin Crosbie






  3. #3
    asta
    Guest

    Re: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination


    "Martin Crosbie" <[email protected]>
    wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Nokia doesn't care about whether or not the phone has

    a camera, an actual
    > phone, or a smelly yak inside their phones.
    >
    > they have very little consideration for anything

    except what it looks like,
    > and what colour it is - and even then it means they

    try to build the most
    > outlandish weird and anti-user design they can.

    Nokia's design team has
    > nothing to do with Finland anymore - it all happens at

    some fashion artists
    > poncy studio in Paris. why have a photo on your

    passport when you can have a
    > portrait by Picasso? nokia made some great looking,

    useful handsets. 6310i,
    > 8910. but instead, they put forward the 3650 and

    7600 - something that looks
    > stupid, and sacrifices ease of use for 'art'. I can

    accept that a phone's
    > looks are important to some people, but not at the

    price of being able to
    > use it.
    >
    > hmm, mobile phones are outselling digital camera's???

    wow didn't expect that
    > one. who would have guessed that more people would buy

    a phone than a
    > camera. statistics prove us wrong again. if phones

    start outselling ironing
    > boards are they going to build them into phones

    aswell?
    >
    > note that 'imaging' doesn't mean video - which means

    they are going to
    > continue to ignore the videophone market, and give us

    more MMS. In contrary
    > to the last paragraph, MMS has absolutely nothing to

    do with email - its a
    > pointless add on to SMS, with less than half of the

    capabilities of email.
    > they could have had it much easier building email into

    the phones, and
    > giving us a decent universal standard, rather than

    creating a new standard
    > with some very severe shortcomings. they haven't even

    developed MMS much,
    > since half the nokia handsets cannot cope with audio -

    meaning an entire
    > third of the standard is hardly used.
    >
    > Nokia suck. my next phone cannot be a nokia, since I

    intend to move on to 3G
    > like I should have done last year, and since nokia

    don't make a 3G phone,(
    > the 6650/7600 do not support video calling - so are

    utterly useless) how do
    > they expect to sell phones? are they going to be happy

    with making the old
    > generation, and then folding up the company when GSM

    becomes completely
    > obsolete? (it is being phased out now).
    >
    > Find me Nokia's teeth so I can kick them.
    >
    > Martin Crosbie
    >
    >

    yawn...





  4. #4
    Philip Henderson
    Guest

    Re: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination

    Last night's Watchdog:

    3G users could rarely make 3G calls.

    2G call quality sucks.

    25-30 wait to get through to customer services.

    Good luck.

    Phil.

    "Martin Crosbie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Nokia doesn't care about whether or not the phone has a camera, an actual
    > phone, or a smelly yak inside their phones.
    >
    > they have very little consideration for anything except what it looks

    like,
    > and what colour it is - and even then it means they try to build the most
    > outlandish weird and anti-user design they can. Nokia's design team has
    > nothing to do with Finland anymore - it all happens at some fashion

    artists
    > poncy studio in Paris. why have a photo on your passport when you can have

    a
    > portrait by Picasso? nokia made some great looking, useful handsets.

    6310i,
    > 8910. but instead, they put forward the 3650 and 7600 - something that

    looks
    > stupid, and sacrifices ease of use for 'art'. I can accept that a phone's
    > looks are important to some people, but not at the price of being able to
    > use it.
    >
    > hmm, mobile phones are outselling digital camera's??? wow didn't expect

    that
    > one. who would have guessed that more people would buy a phone than a
    > camera. statistics prove us wrong again. if phones start outselling

    ironing
    > boards are they going to build them into phones aswell?
    >
    > note that 'imaging' doesn't mean video - which means they are going to
    > continue to ignore the videophone market, and give us more MMS. In

    contrary
    > to the last paragraph, MMS has absolutely nothing to do with email - its a
    > pointless add on to SMS, with less than half of the capabilities of email.
    > they could have had it much easier building email into the phones, and
    > giving us a decent universal standard, rather than creating a new standard
    > with some very severe shortcomings. they haven't even developed MMS much,
    > since half the nokia handsets cannot cope with audio - meaning an entire
    > third of the standard is hardly used.
    >
    > Nokia suck. my next phone cannot be a nokia, since I intend to move on to

    3G
    > like I should have done last year, and since nokia don't make a 3G phone,(
    > the 6650/7600 do not support video calling - so are utterly useless) how

    do
    > they expect to sell phones? are they going to be happy with making the old
    > generation, and then folding up the company when GSM becomes completely
    > obsolete? (it is being phased out now).
    >
    > Find me Nokia's teeth so I can kick them.
    >
    > Martin Crosbie
    >
    >
    >






  5. #5
    jren57
    Guest

    Re: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination


    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > FOR MORE STORIES OF THE WIRELESSWORLD --
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    > PALM/PDA news and info
    > FREE Aluminum Palm/Clie Case Giveaway This Weekend!!
    >
    > NEWS: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination
    > Nokia is ramping up production of mobile phones containing cameras, and
    > predicts it could soon become the world's biggest manufacturer of digital
    > cameras.
    > The plans are part of the Finnish handset maker's strategy to focus more

    on
    > "imaging" products.
    > Nokia chief executive Jorma Ollila told analysts late last week that the
    > company intends to make cameras a part of nearly every kind of Nokia phone
    > by the second half of 2004. A company representative said that represents

    a
    > "significant" expansion from the current line-up, which includes 12 Nokia
    > phones that are capable of taking still photographs and recording

    15-second
    > videos.
    >
    > A Nokia representative said: "We see it as inevitable that convergence of
    > mobility and imaging will happen. Mobility boasts a number of benefits for
    > imaging, as the device is with the user wherever he goes."
    > Camera phones were first introduced in Japan about three years ago, and

    have
    > since become so popular that some market analysts believe they've started
    > outselling digital cameras. Nokia believes it could become the biggest
    > digital camera manufacturer globally in 2003. Ollila said: "We want to be
    > driving this phenomenon very strongly."
    > Like most other handset makers, Nokia is designing phones to take

    advantage
    > of a growing demand for services such as MMS, which allows emails to carry
    > attachments such as documents, sound recordings or movie clips. MMS is
    > expected to generate billions in extra revenue for carriers worldwide by
    > 2005, analysts say.
    >
    > SOURCE http://www.silicon.com/news/500018/1/6470.html
    >
    >

    I think Nokia domination of the mobile phone market is coming to an end. In
    future they are going to get some stiff opposition (especially from a
    resurgent Sony Ericsson), I mean look at the keypads! (7210) what the hell
    are they thinking of?

    Nokia phones are nothing special, its all fancy clip-on covers and
    ringtones. In five years time Sony Ericsson will be market leader, thanks to
    sexy new phones like the P900

    p.s what every happened to the 7650 (snigger)

    http://www.sonyericsson.com/p900/mai...?regionCode=uk






  6. #6
    tuned by RZO
    Guest

    Re: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination

    "jren57" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    |
    | "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    | news:[email protected]
    | > FOR MORE STORIES OF THE WIRELESSWORLD --
    | > Visit http://wirelessway.blogspot.com for all the latest Wireless Phone
    | > PALM/PDA news and info
    | > FREE Aluminum Palm/Clie Case Giveaway This Weekend!!
    | >
    | > NEWS: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination
    | > Nokia is ramping up production of mobile phones containing cameras, and
    | > predicts it could soon become the world's biggest manufacturer of
    digital
    | > cameras.
    | > The plans are part of the Finnish handset maker's strategy to focus more
    | on
    | > "imaging" products.
    | > Nokia chief executive Jorma Ollila told analysts late last week that the
    | > company intends to make cameras a part of nearly every kind of Nokia
    phone
    | > by the second half of 2004. A company representative said that
    represents
    | a
    | > "significant" expansion from the current line-up, which includes 12
    Nokia
    | > phones that are capable of taking still photographs and recording
    | 15-second
    | > videos.
    | >
    | > A Nokia representative said: "We see it as inevitable that convergence
    of
    | > mobility and imaging will happen. Mobility boasts a number of benefits
    for
    | > imaging, as the device is with the user wherever he goes."
    | > Camera phones were first introduced in Japan about three years ago, and
    | have
    | > since become so popular that some market analysts believe they've
    started
    | > outselling digital cameras. Nokia believes it could become the biggest
    | > digital camera manufacturer globally in 2003. Ollila said: "We want to
    be
    | > driving this phenomenon very strongly."
    | > Like most other handset makers, Nokia is designing phones to take
    | advantage
    | > of a growing demand for services such as MMS, which allows emails to
    carry
    | > attachments such as documents, sound recordings or movie clips. MMS is
    | > expected to generate billions in extra revenue for carriers worldwide by
    | > 2005, analysts say.
    | >
    | > SOURCE http://www.silicon.com/news/500018/1/6470.html
    | >
    | >
    | I think Nokia domination of the mobile phone market is coming to an end.
    In
    | future they are going to get some stiff opposition (especially from a
    | resurgent Sony Ericsson), I mean look at the keypads! (7210) what the hell
    | are they thinking of?
    |
    | Nokia phones are nothing special, its all fancy clip-on covers and
    | ringtones. In five years time Sony Ericsson will be market leader, thanks
    to
    | sexy new phones like the P900
    |
    | p.s what every happened to the 7650 (snigger)
    |
    | http://www.sonyericsson.com/p900/mai...?regionCode=uk
    |
    |
    |

    hehehe...7650?! shhh!! ;-)





  7. #7
    Matapalo
    Guest

    Re: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination

    SONY ERICSSON MAKES SEXY PHONES, BUT I HAVE OWNED ALL THEIR LATEST
    RELEASES AND DESPITE HAVING GREAT FEATURES AND A FANTASTIC GUI, THE
    RECEPTION ON THEIR PHONES SUCKS ACROSS THE BOARD!

    (Sony: t68, 616) (Nokia: 6200)

    AND I'VE DONE MY OWN AD HOC CONTROLLED STUDY SWAPPING MY SIM CARD FROM
    MY SONYS TO MY NOKIAS IN MY HOUSE. THE DIFFERENCE IN SIGNAL STRENGTH
    AND THE ABILITY TO CONNECT OR MAKE A CALL WAS SIGNIFICANT!

    GO TO ANY SONY ERICSSON FORUM AND DO A SEARCH ON GOOGLE FOR SONY
    ERICSSON RECEPTION ISSUES - YOU WILL BE OVERWHELMED.

    I WANT SO BAD FOR SONY PHONES TO WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE FEATURE RICH
    AND THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED ON THE OUTSIDE. THE GUTS? THEY JUST DON'T
    HAVE THE PERFORMANCE!

    NOKIA? SEXY? NO. BUT, YOU CAN'T KILL THEM.

    KIND OF LIKE WIVES - YOU WANT THE HOT, SEXY, DUBIOUS ONE OR THE OLD
    FAITHFUL IN THE PLAIN-JANE WRAPPER?

    PICK 'EM


    "tuned by RZO" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "jren57" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > |
    > | "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > | news:[email protected]
    > | > FOR MORE STORIES OF THE WIRELESSWORLD --
    > | > Visit http://wirelessway.blogspot.com for all the latest Wireless Phone
    > | > PALM/PDA news and info
    > | > FREE Aluminum Palm/Clie Case Giveaway This Weekend!!
    > | >
    > | > NEWS: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination
    > | > Nokia is ramping up production of mobile phones containing cameras, and
    > | > predicts it could soon become the world's biggest manufacturer of
    > digital
    > | > cameras.
    > | > The plans are part of the Finnish handset maker's strategy to focus more
    > on
    > | > "imaging" products.
    > | > Nokia chief executive Jorma Ollila told analysts late last week that the
    > | > company intends to make cameras a part of nearly every kind of Nokia
    > phone
    > | > by the second half of 2004. A company representative said that
    > represents
    > a
    > | > "significant" expansion from the current line-up, which includes 12
    > Nokia
    > | > phones that are capable of taking still photographs and recording
    > 15-second
    > | > videos.
    > | >
    > | > A Nokia representative said: "We see it as inevitable that convergence
    > of
    > | > mobility and imaging will happen. Mobility boasts a number of benefits
    > for
    > | > imaging, as the device is with the user wherever he goes."
    > | > Camera phones were first introduced in Japan about three years ago, and
    > have
    > | > since become so popular that some market analysts believe they've
    > started
    > | > outselling digital cameras. Nokia believes it could become the biggest
    > | > digital camera manufacturer globally in 2003. Ollila said: "We want to
    > be
    > | > driving this phenomenon very strongly."
    > | > Like most other handset makers, Nokia is designing phones to take
    > advantage
    > | > of a growing demand for services such as MMS, which allows emails to
    > carry
    > | > attachments such as documents, sound recordings or movie clips. MMS is
    > | > expected to generate billions in extra revenue for carriers worldwide by
    > | > 2005, analysts say.
    > | >
    > | > SOURCE http://www.silicon.com/news/500018/1/6470.html
    > | >
    > | >
    > | I think Nokia domination of the mobile phone market is coming to an end.
    > In
    > | future they are going to get some stiff opposition (especially from a
    > | resurgent Sony Ericsson), I mean look at the keypads! (7210) what the hell
    > | are they thinking of?
    > |
    > | Nokia phones are nothing special, its all fancy clip-on covers and
    > | ringtones. In five years time Sony Ericsson will be market leader, thanks
    > to
    > | sexy new phones like the P900
    > |
    > | p.s what every happened to the 7650 (snigger)
    > |
    > | http://www.sonyericsson.com/p900/mai...?regionCode=uk
    > |
    > |
    > |
    >
    > hehehe...7650?! shhh!! ;-)




  8. #8
    The Blue
    Guest

    Re: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination

    > SONY ERICSSON MAKES SEXY PHONES, BUT I HAVE OWNED ALL THEIR LATEST
    > RELEASES AND DESPITE HAVING GREAT FEATURES AND A FANTASTIC GUI, THE
    > RECEPTION ON THEIR PHONES SUCKS ACROSS THE BOARD!
    >
    > (Sony: t68, 616) (Nokia: 6200)
    >
    > AND I'VE DONE MY OWN AD HOC CONTROLLED STUDY SWAPPING MY SIM CARD FROM
    > MY SONYS TO MY NOKIAS IN MY HOUSE. THE DIFFERENCE IN SIGNAL STRENGTH
    > AND THE ABILITY TO CONNECT OR MAKE A CALL WAS SIGNIFICANT!
    >
    > GO TO ANY SONY ERICSSON FORUM AND DO A SEARCH ON GOOGLE FOR SONY
    > ERICSSON RECEPTION ISSUES - YOU WILL BE OVERWHELMED.
    >
    > I WANT SO BAD FOR SONY PHONES TO WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE FEATURE RICH
    > AND THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED ON THE OUTSIDE. THE GUTS? THEY JUST DON'T
    > HAVE THE PERFORMANCE!
    >
    > NOKIA? SEXY? NO. BUT, YOU CAN'T KILL THEM.
    >
    > KIND OF LIKE WIVES - YOU WANT THE HOT, SEXY, DUBIOUS ONE OR THE OLD
    > FAITHFUL IN THE PLAIN-JANE WRAPPER?
    >

    I will have to argue the Sony ericsson signal strength difference being
    significant.
    having used the the nokia 3590 over 4 months and the sony T306. i must
    say the T 306 has better signal strength. I am on the AT&T GSM service
    which is not very good in new jersey. I will agree the GUI is great
    sony. i used ericsson while using att TDMA service and the signal
    Strength was second to none. The more expensive nokia may have an edge
    over the pricier ericsson. but i think that something sony will fix soon.
    --
    Must fight it must , i must fight my A.D.D , what was i talking about
    oh never mind oooo what that over there




  9. #9
    t t
    Guest

    Re: Nokia Has Sights Set On Digital Camera Domination

    On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:27:14 +0000 (UTC), "jren57" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Nokia phones are nothing special, its all fancy clip-on covers and
    >ringtones. In five years time Sony Ericsson will be market leader, thanks to
    >sexy new phones like the P900
    >
    >p.s what every happened to the 7650 (snigger)
    >
    >http://www.sonyericsson.com/p900/mai...?regionCode=uk


    "Sexy phones"? All Sony-Ericsson phones look like square bricks.
    Including that one. They look like 70s East-European cars, all boxy.

    Say what you will, but looks (as well as brand) also matter to people
    when they are selecting a phone from a selection with similar
    features. Second comes their experience with the brand (ie. if their
    Nokias or Ericssons keep breaking up, they wov not to buy another
    mobile from the same company). Most mobile phone buyers are not techno
    geeks who care only about features they are never going to use anyway.

    Heck, people buy even cars based on color and looks.




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