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- 11-10-2003, 05:25 PM #1DWGuest
washingtonpost.com
FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
By JONATHAN D. SALANT
The Associated Press
Monday, November 10, 2003; 4:55 PM
Federal regulators gave the go-ahead Monday for consumers to switch
their home phone numbers to their cell phones.
The Federal Communications Commission said people will be able to
transfer their numbers as long as their wireless coverage area
overlaps the location of their conventional phone.
The FCC also said it wants to allow people to transfer cell numbers to
conventional phones but needs to gather more information first.
The new home-to-cell number rule takes effect Nov. 24, the same day
wireless customers will be able to keep their numbers when they switch
cell phone companies. The rules govern customers living in the 100
most populous metropolitan areas and take effect six months later for
all others.
"After today, it's easier than ever to cut the cord," FCC Chairman
Michael Powell said. "By firmly endorsing a customer's right to
untether themselves from the wireline network -- and take their
telephone number with them -- we act to eliminate impediments to
competition between wireless and wireline services."
Consumer advocates have long said that technological advances made it
unnecessary for phone customers to have different home and cell
numbers, and that they should be allowed to take their cell phone
numbers with them when they change companies.
"When we reduce the switching costs of going from one carrier to
another, you're making the market more competitive," said Chris
Murray, legislative counsel for Consumers Union, which publishes
Consumer Reports magazine.
"There's both the economic cost of a new phone number -- having to
print new business cards, having to potentially contact everyone who
might have your phone number -- and massive inconvenience," he said."
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- 11-10-2003, 05:32 PM #2Dave C.Guest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
"DW" <sysop> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> washingtonpost.com
> FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
>
> By JONATHAN D. SALANT
> The Associated Press
> Monday, November 10, 2003; 4:55 PM
>
>
> Federal regulators gave the go-ahead Monday for consumers to switch
> their home phone numbers to their cell phones.
Great, now we get illegal telemarketing calls to both our home phones AND
our cell phones. -Dave
- 11-10-2003, 08:59 PM #3Larry W4CSCGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:32:02 GMT, "Dave C."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"DW" <sysop> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> washingtonpost.com
>> FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
>>
>> By JONATHAN D. SALANT
>> The Associated Press
>> Monday, November 10, 2003; 4:55 PM
>>
>>
>> Federal regulators gave the go-ahead Monday for consumers to switch
>> their home phone numbers to their cell phones.
>
>Great, now we get illegal telemarketing calls to both our home phones AND
>our cell phones. -Dave
>
>
What's fun to play with is get a callback number. Serious spammer
will give you a number. Then, of course after 9:01PM on unlimited
service, call em back and see how long you can keep them on the phone
with your silly questions, like where are you located, is it a nice
place to live, I hear a lot of people - are you in a boiler room I
read about, their local weather report compared to yours is a great
way to waste their time.....
The last one who called was very nice. She and I had a great time
until she set off some alarm for overtime on her terminal and got back
to business. At that time, I started asking silly questions about the
product and managed another 8 minutes before she hung up on me, the
nicest, most pleasant caller she'd had all day. Be drippingly nice
when you call....(c;
Larry W4CSC
"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"
- 11-11-2003, 10:41 AM #4Group Special MobileGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:59:23 GMT, [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) wrote:
>The last one who called was very nice. She and I had a great time
>until she set off some alarm for overtime on her terminal and got back
>to business. At that time, I started asking silly questions about the
>product and managed another 8 minutes before she hung up on me, the
>nicest, most pleasant caller she'd had all day. Be drippingly nice
>when you call....(c;
I guess you don't have much of a life if you can afford to play with
telemarketers all day.
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- 11-11-2003, 11:38 AM #5DSL GURUGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
> I guess you don't have much of a life if you can
> afford to play with\ telemarketers all day.
I think its the folks with the gratuitous insults that have no life.
- 11-11-2003, 01:19 PM #6DevilsPGDGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
In message <<[email protected]>> Group Special
Mobile <look@signature_to.reply> did ramble:
>I guess you don't have much of a life if you can afford to play with
>telemarketers all day.
Some of us are good multitaskers. I keep on working while I toy with
them.
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You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.
- 11-11-2003, 05:52 PM #7Larry W4CSCGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:41:30 -0800, Group Special Mobile
<look@signature_to.reply> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:59:23 GMT, [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) wrote:
>
>>The last one who called was very nice. She and I had a great time
>>until she set off some alarm for overtime on her terminal and got back
>>to business. At that time, I started asking silly questions about the
>>product and managed another 8 minutes before she hung up on me, the
>>nicest, most pleasant caller she'd had all day. Be drippingly nice
>>when you call....(c;
>
>I guess you don't have much of a life if you can afford to play with
>telemarketers all day.
I get bored driving from customer to customer.....
Larry W4CSC
"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"
- 11-12-2003, 01:23 AM #8About DakotaGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
>>I guess you don't have much of a life if you can afford to play with
>>telemarketers all day.
>
>
> I get bored driving from customer to customer.....
You mean ALL the people in South Carolina don't live in one large city?
I'm totally shocked.
Next think you're going to tell me is that 3W Moto bagphone works better
than some clamshell CDMA phone.
You're not going to tell me that Verizon has a dead spot it's coverage
map, are you?
Next I bet you'll tell me that I will be able to take my mobile phone
number with me when I switch companies, or that Hawaii is a state.
--
It's really amazing how too many people make assumptions about
everything, isn't it? How many people have even used a 3W AMPS phone?
If they haven't, how can they compare?
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- 11-12-2003, 11:56 PM #9David SGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:52:14 GMT, [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) chose to
add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and everything:
>On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:41:30 -0800, Group Special Mobile
><look@signature_to.reply> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:59:23 GMT, [email protected] (Larry W4CSC) wrote:
>>
>>>The last one who called was very nice. She and I had a great time
>>>until she set off some alarm for overtime on her terminal and got back
>>>to business. At that time, I started asking silly questions about the
>>>product and managed another 8 minutes before she hung up on me, the
>>>nicest, most pleasant caller she'd had all day. Be drippingly nice
>>>when you call....(c;
>>
>>I guess you don't have much of a life if you can afford to play with
>>telemarketers all day.
>
>I get bored driving from customer to customer.....
But how can your customers call you if you're on the phone chatting up
underpaid young drones?
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- 11-13-2003, 12:45 AM #10O/SirisGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
In article <[email protected]>,=20
David [email protected] says...
> But how can your customers call you if you're on the phone chatting up
> underpaid young drones?
>=20
Ever Heard of Call Waiting?
--=20
-+-
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.
- 11-13-2003, 04:58 AM #11JRWGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
About Dakota wrote:
> Next think you're going to tell me is that 3W Moto bagphone works better
> than some clamshell CDMA phone.
Hey....don't knock those bag phones! I was kinda shocked when they
gave me one for my van. I see a lot of new pickups with old Motorola
phones and the handset attached to the dash. Works get in this
hilly rural county.
- 11-13-2003, 06:50 AM #12JerGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
O/Siris wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> David [email protected] says...
>
>>But how can your customers call you if you're on the phone chatting up
>>underpaid young drones?
>>
>
>
> Ever Heard of Call Waiting?
>
Okay, lt me see if I've got this straight... you're driving along
chatting and being drippingly nice with a telemarketer, wasting their
schtick time pretending to be interested in their schlock of the
moment, when...<beep> "Whoops, hang on I've got a customer ringing
through", <click to waiting call and dodging rear bumper of vehicle by
inches> "Hello customer, how can I assist you?"
And you expect us to believe this telemarketer is gonna hang around
waiting on your ignore feature to disengage?
Not gonna happen. Not even. That dog don't hunt, dude.
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- 11-13-2003, 11:45 AM #13O/SirisGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> And you expect us to believe this telemarketer is gonna hang around=20
> waiting on your ignore feature to disengage?
>=20
You appear to misunderstand the intent behind what he's=20
doing. It's irrelevant if they do or not. Every second on=20
the line during that callback costs the telemarketing=20
company. You're never going to convince a telemarketing=20
company that what they do is wrong. But if you render it=20
expensive, *now* you're talking a language the company=20
understands.
--=20
-+-
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.
- 11-13-2003, 01:47 PM #14About DakotaGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
JRW wrote:
> About Dakota wrote:
>
>> Next think you're going to tell me is that 3W Moto bagphone works
>> better than some clamshell CDMA phone.
>
>
> Hey....don't knock those bag phones! I was kinda shocked when they
> gave me one for my van. I see a lot of new pickups with old Motorola
> phones and the handset attached to the dash. Works get in this
> hilly rural county.
>
Actually, that was the point. If you noticed everything else I said in
that post, it was all sarcastic:
You're not going to tell me that Verizon has a dead spot it's coverage
map, are you?
Next I bet you'll tell me that I will be able to take my mobile phone
number with me when I switch companies, or that Hawaii is a state.
It's well documented that Verizon has holes in its own native coverage
areas. It's well documented that WLNP is scheduled to take effect on 24
November 2003. It's also well documented that Hawaii is a state. And
Alaska is a state, too.
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- 11-13-2003, 01:51 PM #15About DakotaGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
Jer wrote:
> O/Siris wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, David
>> [email protected] says...
>>
>>> But how can your customers call you if you're on the phone chatting up
>>> underpaid young drones?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ever Heard of Call Waiting?
>>
>
>
> Okay, lt me see if I've got this straight... you're driving along
> chatting and being drippingly nice with a telemarketer, wasting their
> schtick time pretending to be interested in their schlock of the moment,
> when...<beep> "Whoops, hang on I've got a customer ringing through",
> <click to waiting call and dodging rear bumper of vehicle by inches>
> "Hello customer, how can I assist you?"
>
> And you expect us to believe this telemarketer is gonna hang around
> waiting on your ignore feature to disengage?
>
> Not gonna happen. Not even. That dog don't hunt, dude.
Maybe since he lived in a rural area, he doesn't answer the phone 75
times per hour (which would usually result in "Whoops. Wrong Number.")
Or maybe he has a customer base on which he can tell who's calling (CID
does work on some AMPS systems. I've used it on SOME analog systems.)
But I guess you've lived in a small town and know, right? Mabye about
500 small. Is 500 people a small town? How about 300? Maybe 150 is a
small town in rural area.
It doesn't matter how he runs his business. The point is -- it's possible.
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