Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

As I was watching the local morning news on ABC while getting ready to go to
work, I caught part of a story, that I can neither find on Sprint's web site
nor on ABC's web site.

They said Sprint PCS will soon offer the ability to watch TV on your cell phone
for $9.99/month. Two items of interest beyond that.
1. I'm not sure, but the phone that flashed on the screen breifly looked like
a T608, although perhaps it was a Treo 600.
2. The voice over complained that the TV in their demo was jerky.

So if in a controlled demo, reception and playback is problematic, good luck in
the real world.


OK just found a link on Google

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...ory?coll=ny-bu
siness-headlines


The story explains why the picture is jerky, its transmitted at 2 frames per
second as opposed to Home TV's 20 frames a second.

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On 13 Nov 2003 12:36:29 GMT, [email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote:

>As I was watching the local morning news on ABC while getting ready to go to
>work, I caught part of a story, that I can neither find on Sprint's web site
>nor on ABC's web site.
>
>They said Sprint PCS will soon offer the ability to watch TV on your cell phone
>for $9.99/month. Two items of interest beyond that.
>1. I'm not sure, but the phone that flashed on the screen breifly looked like
> a T608, although perhaps it was a Treo 600.
>2. The voice over complained that the TV in their demo was jerky.
>
>So if in a controlled demo, reception and playback is problematic, good luck in
>the real world.
>
>
>OK just found a link on Google
>
>http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...ory?coll=ny-bu
>siness-headlines
>
>
>The story explains why the picture is jerky, its transmitted at 2 frames per
>second as opposed to Home TV's 20 frames a second.


Home TV's 30 frames/second.

GSM carriers wouldn't even dare try mobile TV. You might be able to
get 1 frame/second if you're lucky.

I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res as
a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.


[email protected] wrote:
> On 13 Nov 2003 12:36:29 GMT, [email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote:
>
>
>>As I was watching the local morning news on ABC while getting ready to go to
>>work, I caught part of a story, that I can neither find on Sprint's web site
>>nor on ABC's web site.
>>
>>They said Sprint PCS will soon offer the ability to watch TV on your cell phone
>>for $9.99/month. Two items of interest beyond that.
>>1. I'm not sure, but the phone that flashed on the screen breifly looked like
>> a T608, although perhaps it was a Treo 600.
>>2. The voice over complained that the TV in their demo was jerky.
>>
>>So if in a controlled demo, reception and playback is problematic, good luck in
>>the real world.
>>
>>
>>OK just found a link on Google
>>
>>http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...ory?coll=ny-bu
>>siness-headlines
>>
>>
>>The story explains why the picture is jerky, its transmitted at 2 frames per
>>second as opposed to Home TV's 20 frames a second.
>
>
>
> Home TV's 30 frames/second.
>
> GSM carriers wouldn't even dare try mobile TV. You might be able to
> get 1 frame/second if you're lucky.
>

"Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res as
> a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
>

For those interested, here's a link on the system.
http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable right
now,

Samsung A-620
Sanyo 5400
Sanyo 8100
Sanyo 7200
Sanyo 5500

Bob

Yes, and even further, conventional television is interlaced,
with a field rate of 60 fields/second.
(50 fields/second in nations with 50-Hertz power-line frequencies.)
---JRC---

<[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
>=20
>=20
> Home TV's 30 frames/second.
>=20
>

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res as
> > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
> >
>
> For those interested, here's a link on the system.
> http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable right
> now,
>
> Samsung A-620
> Sanyo 5400
> Sanyo 8100
> Sanyo 7200
> Sanyo 5500
>
> Bob

Forgot to add the following ...

Lots of channels offered through this new deal. Too bad they don't offer a
demo on how it works on the website.

Bob::hoping they add the Sanyo 5300 to the list::

In article <[email protected]>,
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res as
> > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
> >
>
> For those interested, here's a link on the system.
> http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable right
> now,
>
> Samsung A-620
> Sanyo 5400
> Sanyo 8100
> Sanyo 7200
> Sanyo 5500

Quite honestly, I'm still not sure why anyone would want to watch jerky,
tiny TV pictures on their cell phone, but I guess there's a market for
it.
--
Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"

Samsung A-620
Sanyo 5400
Sanyo 8100
Sanyo 7200
Sanyo 5500

==============
So the phones where you might get an acceptable picture, like a Palm Phone or
CE Windows phone
don't have it?

Squintavision may be too mild a description.

"Orac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res
as
> > > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
> > >
> >
> > For those interested, here's a link on the system.
> > http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable
right
> > now,
> >
> > Samsung A-620
> > Sanyo 5400
> > Sanyo 8100
> > Sanyo 7200
> > Sanyo 5500
>
> Quite honestly, I'm still not sure why anyone would want to watch jerky,
> tiny TV pictures on their cell phone, but I guess there's a market for
> it.

I know what you mean, however I can see a use for it. I really don't
consider a TV feed though. Not until EV-DV cranks up. This is more like a
radio feed with updated pictures shown on the phone. If one subscribes, they
can listen to news on MSNBC, stock news on CNBC,music, whatever, without
being near a TV ... or a radio ...

Bob

In article <[email protected]>,=20
DSL [email protected] says...
> So the phones where you might get an acceptable picture, like a Palm Phon=
e or=20
> CE Windows phone
> don't have it?
>=20

Except for the Treo600, our Palm and PocketPC phones don't=20
have the same J2ME support as the "pure" phones. And I=20
think even the Treo 600 is still a bit different. I=20
suspect that's the primary reason for it.

Doesn't mean it won't change, though.

--=20
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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

Please explain levels of J2ME support. All of SprintPCS's press releases have
said the Samsung I330 and i500 have J2ME.

the application has APIs that call directly from the newer Sanyo chipset.
"DSL GURU" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Please explain levels of J2ME support. All of SprintPCS's press releases
have
> said the Samsung I330 and i500 have J2ME.

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Orac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of
res
> as
> > > > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
> > > >
> > >
> > > For those interested, here's a link on the system.
> > > http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable
> right
> > > now,
> > >
> > > Samsung A-620
> > > Sanyo 5400
> > > Sanyo 8100
> > > Sanyo 7200
> > > Sanyo 5500
> >
> > Quite honestly, I'm still not sure why anyone would want to watch jerky,
> > tiny TV pictures on their cell phone, but I guess there's a market for
> > it.
>
> I know what you mean, however I can see a use for it. I really don't
> consider a TV feed though. Not until EV-DV cranks up. This is more like a
> radio feed with updated pictures shown on the phone. If one subscribes,
they
> can listen to news on MSNBC, stock news on CNBC,music, whatever, without
> being near a TV ... or a radio ...
>
> Bob

If Sprint made a phone that did *nothing*, Bob Smith would see a use for it.
:snicker:

"MTG" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]...
>
> If Sprint made a phone that did *nothing*, Bob Smith would see a use for
it.
> :snicker:

Oh contraire Meta ... I don't pay attention to those phones that do
*nothing*.

Bob

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:59:14 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

>On 13 Nov 2003 12:36:29 GMT, [email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote:
>
>>As I was watching the local morning news on ABC while getting ready to go to
>>work, I caught part of a story, that I can neither find on Sprint's web site
>>nor on ABC's web site.
>>
>>They said Sprint PCS will soon offer the ability to watch TV on your cell phone
>>for $9.99/month. Two items of interest beyond that.
>>1. I'm not sure, but the phone that flashed on the screen breifly looked like
>> a T608, although perhaps it was a Treo 600.
>>2. The voice over complained that the TV in their demo was jerky.
>>
>>So if in a controlled demo, reception and playback is problematic, good luck in
>>the real world.
>>
>>
>>OK just found a link on Google
>>
>>http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...ory?coll=ny-bu
>>siness-headlines
>>
>>
>>The story explains why the picture is jerky, its transmitted at 2 frames per
>>second as opposed to Home TV's 20 frames a second.
>
>
>Home TV's 30 frames/second.
>
>GSM carriers wouldn't even dare try mobile TV. You might be able to
>get 1 frame/second if you're lucky.

An article in the Kansas City Star this morning noted that the advent
of faster processors in phones (perhaps they're indirectly referring
to Qualcomm's Qtv) will help solve the jerkiness.