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  1. #1
    DSL GURU
    Guest
    As I was watching the local morning news on ABC while getting ready to go to
    work, I caught part of a story, that I can neither find on Sprint's web site
    nor on ABC's web site.

    They said Sprint PCS will soon offer the ability to watch TV on your cell phone
    for $9.99/month. Two items of interest beyond that.
    1. I'm not sure, but the phone that flashed on the screen breifly looked like
    a T608, although perhaps it was a Treo 600.
    2. The voice over complained that the TV in their demo was jerky.

    So if in a controlled demo, reception and playback is problematic, good luck in
    the real world.


    OK just found a link on Google

    http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...ory?coll=ny-bu
    siness-headlines


    The story explains why the picture is jerky, its transmitted at 2 frames per
    second as opposed to Home TV's 20 frames a second.



    See More: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS




  2. #2

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    On 13 Nov 2003 12:36:29 GMT, [email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote:

    >As I was watching the local morning news on ABC while getting ready to go to
    >work, I caught part of a story, that I can neither find on Sprint's web site
    >nor on ABC's web site.
    >
    >They said Sprint PCS will soon offer the ability to watch TV on your cell phone
    >for $9.99/month. Two items of interest beyond that.
    >1. I'm not sure, but the phone that flashed on the screen breifly looked like
    > a T608, although perhaps it was a Treo 600.
    >2. The voice over complained that the TV in their demo was jerky.
    >
    >So if in a controlled demo, reception and playback is problematic, good luck in
    >the real world.
    >
    >
    >OK just found a link on Google
    >
    >http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...ory?coll=ny-bu
    >siness-headlines
    >
    >
    >The story explains why the picture is jerky, its transmitted at 2 frames per
    >second as opposed to Home TV's 20 frames a second.



    Home TV's 30 frames/second.

    GSM carriers wouldn't even dare try mobile TV. You might be able to
    get 1 frame/second if you're lucky.




  3. #3
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res as
    a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.


    [email protected] wrote:
    > On 13 Nov 2003 12:36:29 GMT, [email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote:
    >
    >
    >>As I was watching the local morning news on ABC while getting ready to go to
    >>work, I caught part of a story, that I can neither find on Sprint's web site
    >>nor on ABC's web site.
    >>
    >>They said Sprint PCS will soon offer the ability to watch TV on your cell phone
    >>for $9.99/month. Two items of interest beyond that.
    >>1. I'm not sure, but the phone that flashed on the screen breifly looked like
    >> a T608, although perhaps it was a Treo 600.
    >>2. The voice over complained that the TV in their demo was jerky.
    >>
    >>So if in a controlled demo, reception and playback is problematic, good luck in
    >>the real world.
    >>
    >>
    >>OK just found a link on Google
    >>
    >>http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...ory?coll=ny-bu
    >>siness-headlines
    >>
    >>
    >>The story explains why the picture is jerky, its transmitted at 2 frames per
    >>second as opposed to Home TV's 20 frames a second.

    >
    >
    >
    > Home TV's 30 frames/second.
    >
    > GSM carriers wouldn't even dare try mobile TV. You might be able to
    > get 1 frame/second if you're lucky.
    >





  4. #4
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS


    "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res as
    > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
    >


    For those interested, here's a link on the system.
    http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable right
    now,

    Samsung A-620
    Sanyo 5400
    Sanyo 8100
    Sanyo 7200
    Sanyo 5500

    Bob





  5. #5
    John R. Copeland
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    Yes, and even further, conventional television is interlaced,
    with a field rate of 60 fields/second.
    (50 fields/second in nations with 50-Hertz power-line frequencies.)
    ---JRC---

    <[email protected]> wrote in message =
    news:[email protected]
    >=20
    >=20
    > Home TV's 30 frames/second.
    >=20
    >




  6. #6
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res as
    > > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
    > >

    >
    > For those interested, here's a link on the system.
    > http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable right
    > now,
    >
    > Samsung A-620
    > Sanyo 5400
    > Sanyo 8100
    > Sanyo 7200
    > Sanyo 5500
    >
    > Bob


    Forgot to add the following ...

    Lots of channels offered through this new deal. Too bad they don't offer a
    demo on how it works on the website.

    Bob::hoping they add the Sanyo 5300 to the list::





  7. #7
    Orac
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res as
    > > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
    > >

    >
    > For those interested, here's a link on the system.
    > http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable right
    > now,
    >
    > Samsung A-620
    > Sanyo 5400
    > Sanyo 8100
    > Sanyo 7200
    > Sanyo 5500


    Quite honestly, I'm still not sure why anyone would want to watch jerky,
    tiny TV pictures on their cell phone, but I guess there's a market for
    it.
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"



  8. #8
    DSL GURU
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    Samsung A-620
    Sanyo 5400
    Sanyo 8100
    Sanyo 7200
    Sanyo 5500

    ==============
    So the phones where you might get an acceptable picture, like a Palm Phone or
    CE Windows phone
    don't have it?

    Squintavision may be too mild a description.



  9. #9
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS


    "Orac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of res

    as
    > > > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
    > > >

    > >
    > > For those interested, here's a link on the system.
    > > http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable

    right
    > > now,
    > >
    > > Samsung A-620
    > > Sanyo 5400
    > > Sanyo 8100
    > > Sanyo 7200
    > > Sanyo 5500

    >
    > Quite honestly, I'm still not sure why anyone would want to watch jerky,
    > tiny TV pictures on their cell phone, but I guess there's a market for
    > it.


    I know what you mean, however I can see a use for it. I really don't
    consider a TV feed though. Not until EV-DV cranks up. This is more like a
    radio feed with updated pictures shown on the phone. If one subscribes, they
    can listen to news on MSNBC, stock news on CNBC,music, whatever, without
    being near a TV ... or a radio ...

    Bob





  10. #10
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    DSL [email protected] says...
    > So the phones where you might get an acceptable picture, like a Palm Phon=

    e or=20
    > CE Windows phone
    > don't have it?
    >=20


    Except for the Treo600, our Palm and PocketPC phones don't=20
    have the same J2ME support as the "pure" phones. And I=20
    think even the Treo 600 is still a bit different. I=20
    suspect that's the primary reason for it.

    Doesn't mean it won't change, though.

    --=20
    -+-
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  11. #11
    DSL GURU
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    Please explain levels of J2ME support. All of SprintPCS's press releases have
    said the Samsung I330 and i500 have J2ME.



  12. #12
    Bill
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    the application has APIs that call directly from the newer Sanyo chipset.
    "DSL GURU" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Please explain levels of J2ME support. All of SprintPCS's press releases

    have
    > said the Samsung I330 and i500 have J2ME.






  13. #13
    MTG
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Orac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news[email protected]
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]
    > > > > I would think that most phones do not have as many lines of

    res
    > as
    > > > > a standard ntsc tv. How much do they crop the picture.
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > For those interested, here's a link on the system.
    > > > http://www.mobitv.com/get_mobitv.html . Lists out the phones capable

    > right
    > > > now,
    > > >
    > > > Samsung A-620
    > > > Sanyo 5400
    > > > Sanyo 8100
    > > > Sanyo 7200
    > > > Sanyo 5500

    > >
    > > Quite honestly, I'm still not sure why anyone would want to watch jerky,
    > > tiny TV pictures on their cell phone, but I guess there's a market for
    > > it.

    >
    > I know what you mean, however I can see a use for it. I really don't
    > consider a TV feed though. Not until EV-DV cranks up. This is more like a
    > radio feed with updated pictures shown on the phone. If one subscribes,

    they
    > can listen to news on MSNBC, stock news on CNBC,music, whatever, without
    > being near a TV ... or a radio ...
    >
    > Bob


    If Sprint made a phone that did *nothing*, Bob Smith would see a use for it.
    :snicker:





  14. #14
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS


    "MTG" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]
    >
    > If Sprint made a phone that did *nothing*, Bob Smith would see a use for

    it.
    > :snicker:


    Oh contraire Meta ... I don't pay attention to those phones that do
    *nothing*.

    Bob





  15. #15

    Re: Squintavision is here for Sprint PCS

    On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:59:14 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

    >On 13 Nov 2003 12:36:29 GMT, [email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote:
    >
    >>As I was watching the local morning news on ABC while getting ready to go to
    >>work, I caught part of a story, that I can neither find on Sprint's web site
    >>nor on ABC's web site.
    >>
    >>They said Sprint PCS will soon offer the ability to watch TV on your cell phone
    >>for $9.99/month. Two items of interest beyond that.
    >>1. I'm not sure, but the phone that flashed on the screen breifly looked like
    >> a T608, although perhaps it was a Treo 600.
    >>2. The voice over complained that the TV in their demo was jerky.
    >>
    >>So if in a controlled demo, reception and playback is problematic, good luck in
    >>the real world.
    >>
    >>
    >>OK just found a link on Google
    >>
    >>http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-b...ory?coll=ny-bu
    >>siness-headlines
    >>
    >>
    >>The story explains why the picture is jerky, its transmitted at 2 frames per
    >>second as opposed to Home TV's 20 frames a second.

    >
    >
    >Home TV's 30 frames/second.
    >
    >GSM carriers wouldn't even dare try mobile TV. You might be able to
    >get 1 frame/second if you're lucky.


    An article in the Kansas City Star this morning noted that the advent
    of faster processors in phones (perhaps they're indirectly referring
    to Qualcomm's Qtv) will help solve the jerkiness.




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