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- 11-21-2003, 10:48 AM #16Scott StephensonGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
DSL GURU wrote:
> Prove him wrong? SprintPCS already posted that its wrong.
No they didn't, you fool- they only said that the setup time was not
approriate for emergency services.
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- 11-21-2003, 11:00 AM #17tom ronsonGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
stop feeding the troll.
"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> DSL GURU wrote:
>
> > Prove him wrong? SprintPCS already posted that its wrong.
>
> No they didn't, you fool- they only said that the setup time was not
> approriate for emergency services.
- 11-21-2003, 11:04 AM #18Scott StephensonGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
tom ronson wrote:
> stop feeding the troll.
>
> "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> DSL GURU wrote:
>>
>> > Prove him wrong? SprintPCS already posted that its wrong.
>>
>> No they didn't, you fool- they only said that the setup time was not
>> approriate for emergency services.
Thanks, but no thanks. Plonk me if it bothers you so much. He lies and
bends the truth to suit his own means, and I choose to correct him. If you
have a problem with this, put me in the killfile, never to be seen again.
- 11-21-2003, 12:29 PM #19CraigGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
A few second latency on set up is better than the Nextel (CO: USER NOT
AVAILABLE) one second, and then available the next second because of a
bad network design or capacity limitation with IDEN. At least thats
how I look at it....
"Big Poppa" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> You know if you read you own post, the INITIAL connection may take a few
> seconds, That when the person if first trying to get to the other person.
> once the main connection has been established, the latency is around 1 -2
> seconds if even that. And no were in your "quote" of Sprint PCS did they say
> "It's not ready yet"
>
> "DSL GURU" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > nice try
- 11-21-2003, 12:46 PM #20planeGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
Scott Stephenson <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Alias for Smith wrote:
>
> > If SprintPCS says: "It will take several seconds to establish the initial
> > PCS Ready Link connection", I would tend not to accept anyone saying its 1
> > second.
>
> Then prove him wrong- he says its a second, and the reality of the situation
> is that it could be true. Sprint did a great job of setting a realistic
> expectation when they said it had latency problems- that doesn't mean it
> can't work better than expected.
In my, in store trial, about 1 sec was about right--the worst part,
was that walkie talkie, push and release, sequence; the other guy and
I would both forget to push or release, and then wind up looking at
the phone, then remembering the to push again, etc---like someone
else had posted, it works, but I'll take the unlimited M2M, for free.
- 11-21-2003, 12:57 PM #21planeGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
[email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Sprint said its not suitable for emergency services. Enough said.
Why not let ever who is using the service make their own decision as
to if it is suitable..My personel opionion, is that it seemed
adequate, but didn't make sense for my own personel use---but I could
see uses for other folks---my personel likes and dislikes will
probably have zero effect on others--other than as just another
opinion. But again, I enjoy reading the opinions of others, if they
aren't trying to dictate to me what I am going to like or dislike.
I really appreciate the information on these posts, for instance, I
had no idea just how bad sprint/verizon/cingular/ etc was till I read
about it here--<grin> really, I have gotten some really useful
insight about how to handle problems, etc thanks.
- 11-21-2003, 01:09 PM #22DSL GURUGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
ABC TV tested Nextel versus Verizon from Freson to Philadelphia to Houston
today and Nextel won hands down for walkie-talkie.
Sprint is introducing its Walkie Talkie this week they said.
- 11-21-2003, 01:22 PM #23JWP7000Guest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
[email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Sprint said its not suitable for emergency services. Enough said.
Per your own quote of a quote.....
" PCS Ready Link may not be appropriate for use by providers of
emergency services. "
Phillpe spin interprets....
"Sprint said its not suitable for emergency services"
Pull your head out of your a$$. How do you get "may not be
appropriate" turned into "its not suitable"? You have got to be the
biggest jacka$$ ever.
- 11-21-2003, 03:08 PM #24tom ronsonGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks, but no thanks. Plonk me if it bothers you so much. He lies and
> bends the truth to suit his own means, and I choose to correct him. If
you
> have a problem with this, put me in the killfile, never to be seen again.
It's not your messages that are bothersome ---- and if you chose to exercise
the futility that's your deal --- but, IMCO, you're only propagating the
problem and solving nothing doing it. That said, if you want to see the 33
faces of Steven become the 66 then keep digging the hole at the water's
edge.
- 11-21-2003, 04:07 PM #25Scott StephensonGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
tom ronson wrote:
>
> "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Thanks, but no thanks. Plonk me if it bothers you so much. He lies and
>> bends the truth to suit his own means, and I choose to correct him. If
> you
>> have a problem with this, put me in the killfile, never to be seen again.
>
> It's not your messages that are bothersome ---- and if you chose to
> exercise the futility that's your deal --- but, IMCO, you're only
> propagating the problem and solving nothing doing it. That said, if you
> want to see the 33 faces of Steven become the 66 then keep digging the
> hole at the water's edge.
I'm sorry that you look at it that way. From my perspective, I see a troll
that tries to sound like he knows everything there is to know about PCS,
and it would unfair to any company to see known false and undocumented
statements being posted, and not try to state the true facts. I realize
that most people posting here see the troll for what he is, but if he
succeeds in swaying the opinion of just one person based on his twisted
views, he has done an injustice to this newgroup. I have stated more than
once that I have absolutely no connection to either Sprint or PCS, so I
have nothing to gain from this, and do it out of a sense of fairness. As a
former business owner, I know first hand the damage that this type of
insane ranting can cause if not addressed.
Is this an idyllic approach? Probably, but I am not the type to just sit
back and let others fight a battle. If I was, I wouldn't go to the local
franchise board to fight recent price increases by Adelphia Cable, I
wouldn't have gone to the local water board asking for water restrictions
in the face of the worst drought in the last 150 years, and I would just
let the troll spread his mistruths without saying a word.
You can choose to sit back if you choose- he won't go away. I choose not to
take that approach.
- 11-21-2003, 09:01 PM #26O/SirisGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
In article <[email protected]>,=20
Alias for [email protected] says...
> If SprintPCS says: "It will take several seconds to establish the initia=
l PCS
> Ready Link connection", I would tend not to accept anyone saying its 1 se=
cond.
>=20
Comparing oranges and tangerines, I see. Do you understand=20
the difference between "initial PCS Ready Link connection"=20
and the lag time once it's started. Geez, you'll compare a=20
transmission to a distributor cap if you think it'll make=20
SPCS look worse.
--=20
-+-
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.
- 11-21-2003, 10:38 PM #27John EckartGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
Yes, everybody stop feeding Scott Stephenson and tom ronson, the =
trolls...
"tom ronson" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> stop feeding the troll.
>=20
> "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > DSL GURU wrote:
> >
> > > Prove him wrong? SprintPCS already posted that its wrong.
> >
> > No they didn't, you fool- they only said that the setup time was not
> > approriate for emergency services.
>=20
>
- 11-22-2003, 02:32 AM #28John EckartGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
"plane" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> Scott Stephenson <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Alias for Smith wrote:
> >=20
> > > If SprintPCS says: "It will take several seconds to establish the =
initial
> > > PCS Ready Link connection", I would tend not to accept anyone =
saying its 1
> > > second.
> >=20
> > Then prove him wrong- he says its a second, and the reality of the =
situation
> > is that it could be true. Sprint did a great job of setting a =
realistic
> > expectation when they said it had latency problems- that doesn't =
mean it
> > can't work better than expected.
>=20
> In my, in store trial, about 1 sec was about right--the worst part,
> was that walkie talkie, push and release, sequence; the other guy and
> I would both forget to push or release, and then wind up looking at
> the phone, then remembering the to push again, etc---like someone
> else had posted, it works, but I'll take the unlimited M2M, for free.
Obviously, you've never used a walkie-talkie before.
- 11-22-2003, 02:45 AM #29John EckartGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
"JWP7000" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (DSL GURU) wrote in message =
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Sprint said its not suitable for emergency services. Enough said.
>=20
> Per your own quote of a quote.....
> " PCS Ready Link may not be appropriate for use by providers of
> emergency services. "
>=20
> Phillpe spin interprets....
> "Sprint said its not suitable for emergency services"
>=20
> Pull your head out of your a$$. How do you get "may not be
> appropriate" turned into "its not suitable"? You have got to be the
> biggest jacka$$ ever.
JWP7000, I think there is something wrong with your "S" key. You may =
want to look in to that.
- 11-22-2003, 02:57 AM #30John EckartGuest
Re: PTT latency is 1 second
User Not Available means the user is busy using the phone (Phone, PTT, =
Net, etc.) or their phone is ringing.=20
Nextel has the most intelligent network I've ever seen.
There are no facts in your statement.
"Craig" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> A few second latency on set up is better than the Nextel (CO: USER NOT
> AVAILABLE) one second, and then available the next second because of a
> bad network design or capacity limitation with IDEN. At least thats
> how I look at it....
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> "Big Poppa" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:<[email protected]>...
> > You know if you read you own post, the INITIAL connection may take a =
few
> > seconds, That when the person if first trying to get to the other =
person.
> > once the main connection has been established, the latency is around =
1 -2
> > seconds if even that. And no were in your "quote" of Sprint PCS did =
they say
> > "It's not ready yet"
> >=20
> > "DSL GURU" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > nice try
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