Re:Number Port Deals Tomorrow

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> > Very interesting concept. You might want to have a look at REI.com. RE=
I
> > started out back in the 30's as a co-op for purchasing outdoor gear. I=
t's
> > grown, but still has "members". Organizationally, it might be a good m=
odel.
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> > Good luck!!
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> > Ken
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> One of our thought has been to approach Extend America and market=20
> Nextel's iDEN services. This seems as a good possibility because Extend=
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> America was incorporated in North Dakota, and is headquartered in=20
> Bismarck, North Dakota. Nextel has co-operated not only with Nextel=20
> Partners, but also with Extend America. Our goal is not to have a large=
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> money making regional carrier, but a carrier that actually works for the=
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> people. And if we successfully marketed iDEN services, we would=20
> literally be partners of all iDEN carriers in the United States. This=20
> could also provide additional revenue because of the border security.
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> One of our other thoughts has been to approach Cingular for a possible=20
> "partnership" where we would build our own little system, but market=20
> under the Cingular name. The biggest advantage, but also the biggest=20
> disadvantage of this is the current lack of GSM coverage in the U.S. in=
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> this region. The biggest advantage would be roaming coverage from all=20
> GSM providers (being able to provide GSM roaming on our system to any=20
> GSM carrier), but the biggest disadvantage would be the lack of GSM=20
> service available for local users to roam on. Even if were to market=20
> only GAIT phones, a good majority of the surrounding area would be=20
> roaming with Western Wireless, and that would eat up any revenue the=20
> small carrier would make. We would also be unable to market competitive=
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> regional or national plans due to the fact that we would be unable to=20
> allow customers to "free roam", because a majority of our customers=20
> would in fact roam at some time or another, costing a startup company=20
> with a small footprint exhorbant amounts of money.
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> Basically, the thought of CDMA (CDMA 2000 in its various flavours) has=20
> pretty much been distinguished. Because our goal would be to provide=20
> blanked coverage to a rural area, there would be many overlap areas with=
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> Verizon Wireless. Because of this, it would be harder to strike roaming=
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> agreements with other CDMA carriers as they are more likely to be=20
> offered a better deal from Verizon Wireless. Also, because Verizon=20
> Wireless has rural coverage around here, we would be at the mercy of=20
> Verizon Wireless for CDMA (or AMPS) roaming.
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> Another thought is the possibility of UMTS, or wCDMA. Althought that=20
> technology is in its infancy, by the time we get up and running (if we=20
> get up and running), UMTS could be much more mature, allowing us to have=
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> one of the top of the line networks without associated upgrade costs, as=
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> UMTS would be our first technology. However, if UMTS were to be=20
> launched now, there would be lack of compatibility with surrounding=20
> networks at all.

Have you looked into the option of 450 MHz service? I know=20
that severely limits the available hardware, if there's any=20
to be had at all, that is.

I remember seeing it mentioned by a Lucent bigwig at an ITU=20
get-together. For a widespread area like you mention, that=20
might be just what you need. Once more, though, that=20
depends on whether or not the equipment even exists for=20
this.

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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

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In article <[email protected]>,=20
Jason [email protected] says...
> Cingular allows you to bring your own phone and not get tied into
> contract.
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Can't bring your own phone, but Sprint allows 0-year=20
contracts. $10 premium every month, but the option *is*=20
there.

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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

O/Siris wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Jason [email protected] says...
>
>> Cingular allows you to bring your own phone and not get tied into
>>contract.
>>
>
>
> Can't bring your own phone, but Sprint allows 0-year
> contracts. $10 premium every month, but the option *is*
> there.
>

Cingular allows you to that without the premium charge. If Verizon
signs up a customer without a contract, the customer is forbidden from
receiving mobile-to-mobile, night/weekend or other off peak minutes, or
even free long distance, because those are normally considered
"promotional". I'm not sure if that's true for all markets. Also, when
you change a price plan on a Verizon account, if you want to keep
night/minute weekends, you must extend your contract.

==AD

You can buy a Sprint PCS phone from anywhere, a friend, e-bay, a
relative, get one for a present, or use one from when you had service
before; so you can "bring your own phone". Starting service does not
mean that you have to buy a new phone.


O/Siris wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Jason [email protected] says...
>
>> Cingular allows you to bring your own phone and not get tied into
>>contract.
>>
>
>
> Can't bring your own phone, but Sprint allows 0-year
> contracts. $10 premium every month, but the option *is*
> there.
>

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:50:49 GMT, O/Siris <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm>
posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>I remember seeing it mentioned by a Lucent bigwig at an ITU
>get-together. For a widespread area like you mention, that
>might be just what you need. Once more, though, that
>depends on whether or not the equipment even exists for
>this.

MTS (or IMTS) equipment probably still exists for 450 (I still have a
couple), but I don't think cellular equipment (read: handsets) ever
existed.

On 3 Dec 2003 19:12:52 -0800, [email protected] (Phillip .)
posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>Well what I really want is no contracts. If I can purchase a phone at
>the going rate without subsidy and no contract I would do that. I am
>just sick of having to be tied down to a contract. Even when you go
>and get new service with a phone that you brought with you (say
>unlocked GSM phone) they still want you in a contract even though they
>are not subsidising the phone price. They also get very sneaky on
>contracts. If I want to change my rate plan, even if it is to a higher
>price, they want the contract to get extended to 12 months from the
>date of the request.

I don't know who "they" is, but I used to change my plan almost every
month, as far as the number of minutes - even after my contract had
expired. And "they" (Verizon) didn't insist on a new contract.

> Have you looked into the option of 450 MHz service? I know
> that severely limits the available hardware, if there's any
> to be had at all, that is.
>
> I remember seeing it mentioned by a Lucent bigwig at an ITU
> get-together. For a widespread area like you mention, that
> might be just what you need. Once more, though, that
> depends on whether or not the equipment even exists for
> this.

Worth possibly looking into for a local basis, but the problem would be
with roaming...we wouldn't be able to provide any to customers of any
other company, and they would not be able to provide any to our customers.

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Al Klein wrote:
> On 3 Dec 2003 19:12:52 -0800, [email protected] (Phillip .)
> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
>
>
>>Well what I really want is no contracts. If I can purchase a phone at
>>the going rate without subsidy and no contract I would do that. I am
>>just sick of having to be tied down to a contract. Even when you go
>>and get new service with a phone that you brought with you (say
>>unlocked GSM phone) they still want you in a contract even though they
>>are not subsidising the phone price. They also get very sneaky on
>>contracts. If I want to change my rate plan, even if it is to a higher
>>price, they want the contract to get extended to 12 months from the
>>date of the request.
>
>
> I don't know who "they" is, but I used to change my plan almost every
> month, as far as the number of minutes - even after my contract had
> expired. And "they" (Verizon) didn't insist on a new contract.

Verizon will not insist that you do this with a National Single Rate
plan because there are no promotions normally offered with this. It
depends on the promotions. Technically, if you want to keep the
promotions when you switch plans, you have to renew your contract.

==AD

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:39:08 -0600, Aboutdakota
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>Verizon will not insist that you do this with a National Single Rate
>plan because there are no promotions normally offered with this. It
>depends on the promotions. Technically, if you want to keep the
>promotions when you switch plans, you have to renew your contract.

Or find a good rep.