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  1. #1
    John
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    My contract ends on Jan 2, 2004. I am wondering what happens if I were to
    switch providers on December 5, 2003. At first blush, I'd assume I would
    get hit with the ETF. But, since SPCS charges for the whole month in
    advance and doesn't prorate, even if I cancel 12/5/03, I'd have paid up
    until 1/2/04 and have completed my contract. Does anyone definitively know
    whether I'd be charged the ETF?





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  2. #2
    JRW
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    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    John wrote:

    > My contract ends on Jan 2, 2004. I am wondering what happens if I were to
    > switch providers on December 5, 2003. At first blush, I'd assume I would
    > get hit with the ETF. But, since SPCS charges for the whole month in
    > advance and doesn't prorate, even if I cancel 12/5/03, I'd have paid up
    > until 1/2/04 and have completed my contract. Does anyone definitively know
    > whether I'd be charged the ETF?


    Good question to bring up. Let me ask another.

    If my anniversary date is January 11 (contract was signed on this date
    in 2003), would my contract end on Jan 11 or Feb 11? The web site shows
    Feb 11 as end of contract date.

    So if I end my contract before Feb 11 next year, will I have to pay ETF?




  3. #3
    DSL GURU
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    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    If your January 2003 Invoice shows your plan changed on Jan 12, and Sprint
    improperly slid it forward a month - then they have violated your contract, and
    if you call Executive Services and complain, your ETF will be waived as of that
    day.

    www.sprintpcsinfo.com has the phone number
    for executive services. Make sure you tell them you got the documentation. Dont
    let them weasel out of it by agreeing to move your expiration date back to
    January. If they violated your contract, you are free to consider it null and
    void.



  4. #4
    John
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    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    Thank you very much for your completely UNhelpful answer. If you read my
    actually read my post, you'll realize you've got the dates completely wrong.
    You might also notice that I mentioned nothing about Sprint doing anything
    improper, I asked if 11 months into the contract, will I be charged the ETF
    considering that I would have paid for the full 12 months.

    Oh, and if someone violates one part of a contract, that doesn't mean you
    can weasel your way out of the entire contract. All that is required is to
    rectify (or pay damages) for that breach. In your example, it's simply to
    correct the date. That's simple contracts law. Follow your incorrect
    advise would only lead to a breach by you and associates damages. Didn't
    anyone ever teach you two wrongs don't make a right?


    "DSL GURU" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > If your January 2003 Invoice shows your plan changed on Jan 12, and Sprint
    > improperly slid it forward a month - then they have violated your

    contract, and
    > if you call Executive Services and complain, your ETF will be waived as of

    that
    > day.
    >
    > www.sprintpcsinfo.com has the phone number
    > for executive services. Make sure you tell them you got the documentation.

    Dont
    > let them weasel out of it by agreeing to move your expiration date back to
    > January. If they violated your contract, you are free to consider it null

    and
    > void.






  5. #5
    JRW
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    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    John, it looks like Phillipe was trying to answer my question.
    Nevertheless I think he over responded to it as to accussing
    Sprint of sliding my conttract date.

    Most likely Sprint considers the contract to end one month after
    the contract anniversary date FOR BILLING PURPOSES only, not the
    actual end of the contract.

    Now for you, I'm going to venture a guess that in spite of being
    paid in full up to your anniversary date, they will most likely
    want to do an ETF on you. Best to call CS for that answer.




  6. #6
    John
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    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.


    "JRW" <[email protected]_.com> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > John, it looks like Phillipe was trying to answer my question.


    Ok, I'll take your word for it. I don't see a previous post by you, but it
    wouldn't be the first time my news server ate a message.





  7. #7
    DSL GURU
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    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    Oh, and if someone violates one part of a contract, that doesn't mean you
    can weasel your way out of the entire contract.
    ==============================

    WRONG. If SprintPCS has incorrectly changed your end date that is valid grounds
    for you to CANCEL the contract.

    I Know, I just did exactly that.



  8. #8
    DSL GURU
    Guest

    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    Most likely Sprint considers the contract to end one month after
    the contract anniversary date FOR BILLING PURPOSES only, not the
    actual end of the contract.
    =========================
    No it is a known bug in their system. They improperly slide your expiration
    date forward, and that IS VALID GROUNDs for you to have your contract
    cancelled.



  9. #9
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    DSL GURU wrote:

    > Oh, and if someone violates one part of a contract, that doesn't mean you
    > can weasel your way out of the entire contract.
    > ==============================
    >
    > WRONG. If SprintPCS has incorrectly changed your end date that is valid
    > grounds for you to CANCEL the contract.
    >
    > I Know, I just did exactly that.



    What's the matter, Stevie? I thought you got a killer retention plan from
    them.



  10. #10
    DSL GURU
    Guest

    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    What's the matter? I thought you got a killer retention plan from
    them.

    ===============================

    Just wanted to have options available to me.
    For instance I could buy a SE T616 and pocket $100, sell my Samsung I330 on
    eBay, etc.

    My son is still on Verizon, and Verizon phones
    do work indoors better than SprintPCS phones, etc

    I currently pay $60 for 2 lines, other carriers have nice shared minute plans
    at $50/month, etc

    I send email to SprintPCS, it goes to eCare which is now in India, and I get a
    nonsense unresponsive answer from someone with a fake Anglo name.

    I now frequent an area of town with a major SprintPCS dead spot, which
    SprintPCS (of course) denies exists.

    If I changed carriers I'd still come here to counter the apologists Scott, Bob,
    and Tom.

    Guaranteed SprintPCS as we know it will not exist a year from now. Its being
    folded back into Sprint, so as to make Sprint a more attractive take-over
    candidate.

    ===============================
    Moral - If SprintPCS has improperly extended your contract that does invalidate
    it.



  11. #11
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.


    "DSL GURU" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > What's the matter? I thought you got a killer retention plan from
    > them.
    >
    > ===============================
    >
    > Just wanted to have options available to me.
    > For instance I could buy a SE T616 and pocket $100, sell my Samsung I330

    on
    > eBay, etc.
    >
    > My son is still on Verizon, and Verizon phones
    > do work indoors better than SprintPCS phones, etc
    >
    > I currently pay $60 for 2 lines, other carriers have nice shared minute

    plans
    > at $50/month, etc
    >
    > I send email to SprintPCS, it goes to eCare which is now in India, and I

    get a
    > nonsense unresponsive answer from someone with a fake Anglo name.


    You really are a bigot Phillipe. Always the hate against the folks in India
    ....as outlined by your numerous posts here, and in the EL newsgroups.
    >
    > I now frequent an area of town with a major SprintPCS dead spot, which
    > SprintPCS (of course) denies exists.
    >
    > If I changed carriers I'd still come here to counter the apologists Scott,

    Bob,
    > and Tom.


    LOL. So now you would stick around in a newsgroup you have no affiliation
    with? You and your 35+ other IDs are real nutcases Phillipe. And I'd still
    like to know where we've been apologizing for SPCS ... without your rhetoric
    included this time.
    >
    > Guaranteed SprintPCS as we know it will not exist a year from now. Its

    being
    > folded back into Sprint, so as to make Sprint a more attractive take-over
    > candidate.


    Guess again Buckoo ... I doubt very much that case, both that SPCS will hold
    it's own within the corporation, and in the fact the the feds will not allow
    a merger of two such large competitors ...

    Bob





  12. #12
    @ Cashnet.com
    Guest

    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.



    DSL GURU wrote:
    > Oh, and if someone violates one part of a contract, that doesn't mean you
    > can weasel your way out of the entire contract.
    > ==============================
    >
    > WRONG. If SprintPCS has incorrectly changed your end date that is valid grounds
    > for you to CANCEL the contract.
    >
    > I Know, I just did exactly that.


    Cool,
    Does that mean we don't have to deal w/ you anymore ? ( fingers
    crossed )


    Jim c.




  13. #13
    Jim Catero
    Guest

    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.



    DSL GURU wrote:

    > Moral - If SprintPCS has improperly extended your contract that does invalidate
    > it.


    Lets face it whatever your name is,
    Sprint was probably more than happy to let your dud butt go, make
    room for a customer who will actually enjoy the service and not whine
    all the time.
    If i were them I'd throw a party.
    And will be more than glad a year from now to call you on your guarantee
    about them not being around.
    Now go troll verizion.


    Jim C.




  14. #14
    JRW
    Guest

    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    DSL GURU wrote:
    > Most likely Sprint considers the contract to end one month after
    > the contract anniversary date FOR BILLING PURPOSES only, not the
    > actual end of the contract.
    > =========================
    > No it is a known bug in their system. They improperly slide your expiration
    > date forward, and that IS VALID GROUNDs for you to have your contract
    > cancelled.


    I would hardly think ANYONE would consider termination as a valid
    remedy. Most likely Sprint would simply change the date for you




  15. #15
    JRW
    Guest

    Re: Question regarding the contract end date.

    DSL GURU wrote:

    > WRONG. If SprintPCS has incorrectly changed your end date that is valid grounds
    > for you to CANCEL the contract.
    >
    > I Know, I just did exactly that.


    Thank god..now you won't have anymore reasons to ***** about.




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