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  1. #1
    Stephen Waits
    Guest
    Hi all,

    Looking to replace our (my wife and mine) LG5250's of nearly two
    years. I want SMS, not the god-awful Short mail.

    Question ONE: Any of the current phones "SMS-ready" and when, if at
    all, does SprintPCS plan on rolling this out? I've checked out the
    VM4500 online (not in person) and it looks like a sweet machine - but
    I've never owned Sanyo. That said, nobody had heard of LG a few years
    ago and I went for that and it has been a great phone.

    Question TWO: We're long-time subscribers (6 or 7 years?) and I'm
    wondering if there's ANY possible way to avoid getting jammed up the
    ass with that giant black dildo of a full-price on new phones.
    Cynically speaking, I'm thinking I should be able to use # portability
    to quit and rejoin SprintPCS, and get the damn phones for a decent
    price.

    --Steve



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  2. #2
    Peterbilt
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    Stupid question here. What is SMS? I've seen tithe term more and more lately
    but not sure exactly what it is.

    "Stephen Waits" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Hi all,
    >
    > Looking to replace our (my wife and mine) LG5250's of nearly two
    > years. I want SMS, not the god-awful Short mail.
    >
    > Question ONE: Any of the current phones "SMS-ready" and when, if at
    > all, does SprintPCS plan on rolling this out? I've checked out the
    > VM4500 online (not in person) and it looks like a sweet machine - but
    > I've never owned Sanyo. That said, nobody had heard of LG a few years
    > ago and I went for that and it has been a great phone.
    >
    > Question TWO: We're long-time subscribers (6 or 7 years?) and I'm
    > wondering if there's ANY possible way to avoid getting jammed up the
    > ass with that giant black dildo of a full-price on new phones.
    > Cynically speaking, I'm thinking I should be able to use # portability
    > to quit and rejoin SprintPCS, and get the damn phones for a decent
    > price.
    >
    > --Steve






  3. #3
    Frank Harris
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    ONE - Sanyos are great phones. Browse this newsgroup and you'll hear
    that over and over, including for the newest VM4500. And read the
    threads here about this phone - I believe it's SMS ready. The Nokia
    3588i is SMS ready.

    Try the advanced search of groups.google.com for alt.cellular.sprintpcs
    and you can hone in on lots of good info that's already been posted in
    the past month or so.

    TWO: many posters here, including myself, who have had the same handset
    for 18 months have called *2 and received $100-130 off a new handset.
    Call and ask. Or ask at a Sprint PCS store (not a third-party store).

    --
    Frank Harris in San Francisco with an A620




  4. #4
    Isaiah Beard
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    Stephen Waits wrote:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > Looking to replace our (my wife and mine) LG5250's of nearly two
    > years. I want SMS, not the god-awful Short mail.
    >
    > Question ONE: Any of the current phones "SMS-ready" and when, if at
    > all, does SprintPCS plan on rolling this out?


    The VM4500 is SMS-ready. The service has NOT yet rolled out, but when
    it does, the phone will do it.

    > I've checked out the
    > VM4500 online (not in person) and it looks like a sweet machine - but
    > I've never owned Sanyo. That said, nobody had heard of LG a few years
    > ago and I went for that and it has been a great phone.


    Really? I've heard nothing but bad things about LG.

    That said, I've used Sanyo's for years now, and they are truly great
    phones... they will probably blow away the performance of those LGs you
    have. I highly recommend the VM4500, I have it and love it.


    > Question TWO: We're long-time subscribers (6 or 7 years?) and I'm
    > wondering if there's ANY possible way to avoid getting jammed up the
    > ass with that giant black dildo of a full-price on new phones.


    You say you've head your phones for two years. This is good. Sprint
    will give you the promotional new-subscriber price on a new phone as
    long as you've had your old LG phones for at least 18 months. You WILL
    have to renew your contract though (two years, I think).

    > Cynically speaking, I'm thinking I should be able to use # portability
    > to quit and rejoin SprintPCS, and get the damn phones for a decent
    > price.


    Not necessary, if you've owned the LGs for as long as you say you have.


    --
    E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.




  5. #5
    Peterbilt
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    Which is better? The Sanyo 8100 or the 5300. The VM4500 is a little out of
    my range. And what about the Samsung VI660 and VGA1000? Does anyone have one
    of those phones? I would like to get some feedback on those four. I am
    considering upgrading to a new one.

    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Stephen Waits wrote:
    >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > Looking to replace our (my wife and mine) LG5250's of nearly two
    > > years. I want SMS, not the god-awful Short mail.
    > >
    > > Question ONE: Any of the current phones "SMS-ready" and when, if at
    > > all, does SprintPCS plan on rolling this out?

    >
    > The VM4500 is SMS-ready. The service has NOT yet rolled out, but when
    > it does, the phone will do it.
    >
    > > I've checked out the
    > > VM4500 online (not in person) and it looks like a sweet machine - but
    > > I've never owned Sanyo. That said, nobody had heard of LG a few years
    > > ago and I went for that and it has been a great phone.

    >
    > Really? I've heard nothing but bad things about LG.
    >
    > That said, I've used Sanyo's for years now, and they are truly great
    > phones... they will probably blow away the performance of those LGs you
    > have. I highly recommend the VM4500, I have it and love it.
    >
    >
    > > Question TWO: We're long-time subscribers (6 or 7 years?) and I'm
    > > wondering if there's ANY possible way to avoid getting jammed up the
    > > ass with that giant black dildo of a full-price on new phones.

    >
    > You say you've head your phones for two years. This is good. Sprint
    > will give you the promotional new-subscriber price on a new phone as
    > long as you've had your old LG phones for at least 18 months. You WILL
    > have to renew your contract though (two years, I think).
    >
    > > Cynically speaking, I'm thinking I should be able to use # portability
    > > to quit and rejoin SprintPCS, and get the damn phones for a decent
    > > price.

    >
    > Not necessary, if you've owned the LGs for as long as you say you have.
    >
    >
    > --
    > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
    >






  6. #6
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    In article=20
    <[email protected]>, Stephen=20
    [email protected] says...
    > Hi all,
    >=20
    > Looking to replace our (my wife and mine) LG5250's of nearly two
    > years. I want SMS, not the god-awful Short mail.
    >=20
    > Question ONE: Any of the current phones "SMS-ready" and when, if at
    > all, does SprintPCS plan on rolling this out? I've checked out the
    > VM4500 online (not in person) and it looks like a sweet machine - but
    > I've never owned Sanyo. That said, nobody had heard of LG a few years
    > ago and I went for that and it has been a great phone.


    SMS is aiming about about mid-month right now. Still some=20
    ironing out to do, from what I heard, so nothing's set in=20
    stone right now.

    And that VM4500 is one *sweet* device. The only thing=20
    missing is PDA functions, and it's even got rudimentary=20
    versions of that.

    >=20
    > Question TWO: We're long-time subscribers (6 or 7 years?) and I'm
    > wondering if there's ANY possible way to avoid getting jammed up the
    > ass with that giant black dildo of a full-price on new phones.=20
    > Cynically speaking, I'm thinking I should be able to use # portability
    > to quit and rejoin SprintPCS, and get the damn phones for a decent
    > price.
    >=20
    > --Steve
    >=20


    There used to be a plan called "Technology Assurance." I=20
    thought it was awesome. Sign on for a 2-year agreement,=20
    and get a service credit at the end good towards the=20
    purchase of a phone. It was all but cancelled when I was=20
    hired on, and then the official axe fell shortly after=20
    that.

    Now there's the "Handset Upgrade Program." Not too bad. =20
    18 months on one device, account in good standing, and you=20
    qualify. Unfortunately, you *still* pay full price up=20
    front. The rebates are mail-in.


    --=20
    -+-
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  7. #7
    newguy
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    LG phones are absolute pieces of garbage. If you think you have a great
    phone just get a Sanyo... ANY Sanyo. You'll see that just because your
    phone worked and it was your only Sprint phone you've had experienced with,
    that it wasn't a great phone


    "Stephen Waits" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Hi all,
    >
    > Looking to replace our (my wife and mine) LG5250's of nearly two
    > years. I want SMS, not the god-awful Short mail.
    >
    > Question ONE: Any of the current phones "SMS-ready" and when, if at
    > all, does SprintPCS plan on rolling this out? I've checked out the
    > VM4500 online (not in person) and it looks like a sweet machine - but
    > I've never owned Sanyo. That said, nobody had heard of LG a few years
    > ago and I went for that and it has been a great phone.
    >
    > Question TWO: We're long-time subscribers (6 or 7 years?) and I'm
    > wondering if there's ANY possible way to avoid getting jammed up the
    > ass with that giant black dildo of a full-price on new phones.
    > Cynically speaking, I'm thinking I should be able to use # portability
    > to quit and rejoin SprintPCS, and get the damn phones for a decent
    > price.
    >
    > --Steve






  8. #8
    newguy
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    Samsung are half way decent but do not compare at all with Sanyo. You'll
    find very little difference between the 8100 and 5300 as far as call clarity
    and signal strength ( but some people say the ear piece on the 5300 is hard
    to hold just right against your ear.. i never had that problem).

    The 8100 can take pics faster is about the only thing that would make me pic
    it over the 5300.. the 5300 has a flash but it's worthless... so flip a coin
    and get either you won't be disappointed.


    "Peterbilt" <amazon-*****@REMOVETHISeudoramail.com> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Which is better? The Sanyo 8100 or the 5300. The VM4500 is a little out of
    > my range. And what about the Samsung VI660 and VGA1000? Does anyone have

    one
    > of those phones? I would like to get some feedback on those four. I am
    > considering upgrading to a new one.
    >
    > "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Stephen Waits wrote:
    > >
    > > > Hi all,
    > > >
    > > > Looking to replace our (my wife and mine) LG5250's of nearly two
    > > > years. I want SMS, not the god-awful Short mail.
    > > >
    > > > Question ONE: Any of the current phones "SMS-ready" and when, if at
    > > > all, does SprintPCS plan on rolling this out?

    > >
    > > The VM4500 is SMS-ready. The service has NOT yet rolled out, but when
    > > it does, the phone will do it.
    > >
    > > > I've checked out the
    > > > VM4500 online (not in person) and it looks like a sweet machine - but
    > > > I've never owned Sanyo. That said, nobody had heard of LG a few years
    > > > ago and I went for that and it has been a great phone.

    > >
    > > Really? I've heard nothing but bad things about LG.
    > >
    > > That said, I've used Sanyo's for years now, and they are truly great
    > > phones... they will probably blow away the performance of those LGs you
    > > have. I highly recommend the VM4500, I have it and love it.
    > >
    > >
    > > > Question TWO: We're long-time subscribers (6 or 7 years?) and I'm
    > > > wondering if there's ANY possible way to avoid getting jammed up the
    > > > ass with that giant black dildo of a full-price on new phones.

    > >
    > > You say you've head your phones for two years. This is good. Sprint
    > > will give you the promotional new-subscriber price on a new phone as
    > > long as you've had your old LG phones for at least 18 months. You WILL
    > > have to renew your contract though (two years, I think).
    > >
    > > > Cynically speaking, I'm thinking I should be able to use # portability
    > > > to quit and rejoin SprintPCS, and get the damn phones for a decent
    > > > price.

    > >
    > > Not necessary, if you've owned the LGs for as long as you say you have.
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
    > >

    >
    >






  9. #9
    Peterbilt
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    Thanks for the info.

    "newguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Samsung are half way decent but do not compare at all with Sanyo. You'll
    > find very little difference between the 8100 and 5300 as far as call

    clarity
    > and signal strength ( but some people say the ear piece on the 5300 is

    hard
    > to hold just right against your ear.. i never had that problem).
    >
    > The 8100 can take pics faster is about the only thing that would make me

    pic
    > it over the 5300.. the 5300 has a flash but it's worthless... so flip a

    coin
    > and get either you won't be disappointed.
    >
    >
    > "Peterbilt" <amazon-*****@REMOVETHISeudoramail.com> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Which is better? The Sanyo 8100 or the 5300. The VM4500 is a little out

    of
    > > my range. And what about the Samsung VI660 and VGA1000? Does anyone have

    > one
    > > of those phones? I would like to get some feedback on those four. I am
    > > considering upgrading to a new one.
    > >
    > > "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Stephen Waits wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Hi all,
    > > > >
    > > > > Looking to replace our (my wife and mine) LG5250's of nearly two
    > > > > years. I want SMS, not the god-awful Short mail.
    > > > >
    > > > > Question ONE: Any of the current phones "SMS-ready" and when, if at
    > > > > all, does SprintPCS plan on rolling this out?
    > > >
    > > > The VM4500 is SMS-ready. The service has NOT yet rolled out, but when
    > > > it does, the phone will do it.
    > > >
    > > > > I've checked out the
    > > > > VM4500 online (not in person) and it looks like a sweet machine -

    but
    > > > > I've never owned Sanyo. That said, nobody had heard of LG a few

    years
    > > > > ago and I went for that and it has been a great phone.
    > > >
    > > > Really? I've heard nothing but bad things about LG.
    > > >
    > > > That said, I've used Sanyo's for years now, and they are truly great
    > > > phones... they will probably blow away the performance of those LGs

    you
    > > > have. I highly recommend the VM4500, I have it and love it.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > Question TWO: We're long-time subscribers (6 or 7 years?) and I'm
    > > > > wondering if there's ANY possible way to avoid getting jammed up the
    > > > > ass with that giant black dildo of a full-price on new phones.
    > > >
    > > > You say you've head your phones for two years. This is good. Sprint
    > > > will give you the promotional new-subscriber price on a new phone as
    > > > long as you've had your old LG phones for at least 18 months. You

    WILL
    > > > have to renew your contract though (two years, I think).
    > > >
    > > > > Cynically speaking, I'm thinking I should be able to use #

    portability
    > > > > to quit and rejoin SprintPCS, and get the damn phones for a decent
    > > > > price.
    > > >
    > > > Not necessary, if you've owned the LGs for as long as you say you

    have.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > > > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  10. #10
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?


    "newguy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Samsung are half way decent but do not compare at all with Sanyo. You'll
    > find very little difference between the 8100 and 5300 as far as call

    clarity
    > and signal strength ( but some people say the ear piece on the 5300 is

    hard
    > to hold just right against your ear.. i never had that problem).
    >
    > The 8100 can take pics faster is about the only thing that would make me

    pic
    > it over the 5300.. the 5300 has a flash but it's worthless... so flip a

    coin
    > and get either you won't be disappointed.


    Agreed. A couple of other differences is that with the 8100, you can attach
    a voice message with the picture. On the 5300, it has zoom capabilities, 4x
    & 16x.

    Bob





  11. #11
    Isaiah Beard
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    Peterbilt wrote:

    > Which is better? The Sanyo 8100 or the 5300.


    I had both, and I liked the 8100 better. The 5300 has a
    higher-resolution camera (640x480), however I found it wasn't very good
    at adapting to lighting, and mine had a fish-eye lens effect that I
    didn't like too much. The 8100's camera is 320x200 or thereabouts, but
    seemed to take better quality pictures. it's also smaller and the
    battery life was better than the 5300.

    Just be aware: the 8100 and 5300 do not have true SMS capability. Not
    sure if you were the person asking for that.



    --
    E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.




  12. #12
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    Peterbilt wrote:

    > Stupid question here. What is SMS? I've seen tithe term more and more lately
    > but not sure exactly what it is.


    Short Message Service. Think phone-centric email, and you're in the
    ballpark. You could also think of alpha-numeric pagers. Long a hit with
    foriegn markets, esp Asia and some parts of Europe, SMS is beginning to
    take off with domestic mobile users. While most US carriers began
    offering one-way text in the second-half of the 90's two way text has
    been slow to mature, with US callers preferring voice service to the
    clunky interfaces afforded them.
    -mike




  13. #13
    W.S. Blevins
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:33:47 -0600, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Short Message Service. Think phone-centric email



    I was under the impression that Sprint didn't provide "real" SMS
    messaging.



  14. #14
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    W.S. Blevins wrote:

    > On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:33:47 -0600, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Short Message Service. Think phone-centric email

    >
    >
    >
    > I was under the impression that Sprint didn't provide "real" SMS
    > messaging.


    My understanding of the situation is this:
    Sprint supports SMS via WAP or html. Essentially, it's a web site
    stand-in for an integrated SMS service. The SMS messages are real, and
    work with other SMS carriers. They're just as real as the emails you
    send with Hotmail - the email is real, even if you never see SMTP, POP3,
    IMAP, or any of their friends directly. For that matter, there's little
    reason that current SPCS Vision phones couldn't download a full-featured
    SMS app. I've send SMS messages directly from the handset via vision
    back when I was using a Treo 300. There was a thrid party developer that
    patched the text message app, adding a send button. It was much cooler
    than what I found when I switched to my A500... Talk about a let down, I
    was expecting better SMS!!

    So, the answer seems to be that it depends on how you define "real" SMS.
    -mike




  15. #15
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: SMS when? New phones cheap, how?

    In article <MPG.1a3c8f9bbfde7361989902
    @netnews.comcast.net>, O/[email protected]=EEntpcs.c=F4m=20
    says...
    > SMS is aiming about about mid-month right now. Still some=20
    > ironing out to do, from what I heard, so nothing's set in=20
    > stone right now.
    >=20


    Oh well. So much for that. Looks like it's moved back to=20
    January. Mid to late, from the looks of things.

    --=20
    -+-
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



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