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Steven - What needs fixed in Rob's newsreader?
Am I missing something?
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> (ROB! Fix your newsreader please...)
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John R. Copeland wrote:
> Steven - What needs fixed in Rob's newsreader?
> Am I missing something?

Actually, it is your news reader. I had the same problem and even commented
on it to Rob. He was nice enough to point me to this half-hearted fix which
I use now.

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

Tom Veldhouse

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> John R. Copeland wrote:
> > Steven - What needs fixed in Rob's newsreader?
> > Am I missing something?
>
> Actually, it is your news reader. I had the same problem and even
commented
> on it to Rob. He was nice enough to point me to this half-hearted fix
which
> I use now.
>
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>
> Tom Veldhouse
>
I use to use that program, but kept getting warnings about ezula when I
cranked up OE ...

Bob

Bob Smith wrote:
>>
> I use to use that program, but kept getting warnings about ezula when
> I cranked up OE ...
>
> Bob

ezula? What kind of warnings? I have to open OE first and then start the
fix manually, it does not run as a service or start automatically in anyway
.... that is why I call it a half-hearted fix. I prefer Forte Agent when I
have to opportunity to use it. The machine I am working on now however does
not have it installed, and I am not going to install it.

Tom Veldhouse

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bob Smith wrote:
> >>
> > I use to use that program, but kept getting warnings about ezula when
> > I cranked up OE ...
> >
> > Bob
>
> ezula? What kind of warnings? I have to open OE first and then start the
> fix manually, it does not run as a service or start automatically in
anyway
> ... that is why I call it a half-hearted fix. I prefer Forte Agent when I
> have to opportunity to use it. The machine I am working on now however
does
> not have it installed, and I am not going to install it.
>
> Tom Veldhouse

I use a product called Internet Cleaner, which lets me know when spyware is
sent to yours truly. It notifies yours truly when double click, ezula and a
number of other spyware products show up, and then removes them.
http://www.aladdinsys.com/win/cleanup/index.html

Ezula is suppose to be non-evasive, but it's still considered spyware ...

Bob

In alt.cellular John R. Copeland <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steven - What needs fixed in Rob's newsreader?
> Am I missing something?

His "From" header contains weird (possibly Unicode?) characters in the
e-mail address. My newsreader will not let me post a followup unless I delete
the characters - it includes an attribution that just copies the e-mail address
verbatim. Usually I just delete the attribution.

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In alt.cellular Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:
> John R. Copeland wrote:
>> Steven - What needs fixed in Rob's newsreader?
>> Am I missing something?
>
> Actually, it is your news reader. I had the same problem and even commented
> on it to Rob. He was nice enough to point me to this half-hearted fix which
> I use now.
>
> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

I don't use OE.


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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:45:44 GMT, Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:


>I use a product called Internet Cleaner, which lets me know when spyware is
>sent to yours truly. It notifies yours truly when double click, ezula and a
>number of other spyware products show up, and then removes them.
>http://www.aladdinsys.com/win/cleanup/index.html

Spyware usually doesn't come via e-mail. The usual vector is some
banner ad like "MAKE YOUR DOWNLOADS FASTER" with an executeable to
run for instalation. If people wouldn't install every ****ing piece
of pretty software they see, they wouldn't have the spyware problem.
It's too bad people are rarely educated enough to know what the
trojan war was or what a trojan horse is.

"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> In alt.cellular John R. Copeland <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Steven - What needs fixed in Rob's newsreader?
> > Am I missing something?
>=20
> His "From" header contains weird (possibly Unicode?) characters in the
> e-mail address. My newsreader will not let me post a followup unless I =
delete
> the characters - it includes an attribution that just copies the =
e-mail address
> verbatim. Usually I just delete the attribution.
>=20
> --=20
>=20

Ah, so. Thanks, Steven.
I've noticed before that Rob cleverly uses the decimal 140 and 147 =
characters,
but they've never caused me any problems.
Maybe your newsreader insists on 7-bit ANSI characters in lieu of =
8-bits?
If so, it might be treating Rob's characters as parity errors.
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"TCS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:slrnbu6fd8.88q.The-Central-Scrutinizer@linux.adamf625.comcast.net...
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:45:44 GMT, Bob Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >I use a product called Internet Cleaner, which lets me know when spyware
is
> >sent to yours truly. It notifies yours truly when double click, ezula and
a
> >number of other spyware products show up, and then removes them.
> >http://www.aladdinsys.com/win/cleanup/index.html
>
> Spyware usually doesn't come via e-mail. The usual vector is some
> banner ad like "MAKE YOUR DOWNLOADS FASTER" with an executeable to
> run for instalation. If people wouldn't install every ****ing piece
> of pretty software they see, they wouldn't have the spyware problem.
> It's too bad people are rarely educated enough to know what the
> trojan war was or what a trojan horse is.

I never said it came via email. Those spyware programs arrive via cookies
from particular sites ... As to ezula, that shows up everytime I load up
Lotus Notes, and with that OE Fix program ... I've also seen it come in an
occasional cookie as well.

Bob

In alt.cellular John R. Copeland <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ah, so. Thanks, Steven.
> I've noticed before that Rob cleverly uses the decimal 140 and 147 characters,
> but they've never caused me any problems.
> Maybe your newsreader insists on 7-bit ANSI characters in lieu of 8-bits?
> If so, it might be treating Rob's characters as parity errors.

I am 100% sure that is the issue.

I'm using tin on a FreeBSD shell account.

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In article <[email protected]>, veldy71
@yahoo.com says...
> Bob Smith wrote:
> >>
> > I use to use that program, but kept getting warnings about ezula when
> > I cranked up OE ...
> >
> > Bob
>=20
> ezula? What kind of warnings? I have to open OE first and then start th=
e
> fix manually, it does not run as a service or start automatically in anyw=
ay
> ... that is why I call it a half-hearted fix. I prefer Forte Agent when =
I
> have to opportunity to use it. The machine I am working on now however d=
oes
> not have it installed, and I am not going to install it.
>=20
> Tom Veldhouse
>=20
>=20
>=20

???

Really? For me, OE Quotefix created a new program group in my start=20
menu, and then, in that group, there's a setting that lists "Outlook=20
Express with OE Quotefix" Click on that, and OE starts up with Quotefix=20
running. I even deleted the regular OE shortcuts and copied that one=20
into place.

See if that's an option for you.

--=20
-+-
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> In alt.cellular John R. Copeland <[email protected]> wrote:
> =20
> > Ah, so. Thanks, Steven.
> > I've noticed before that Rob cleverly uses the decimal 140 and 147 char=
acters,
> > but they've never caused me any problems.
> > Maybe your newsreader insists on 7-bit ANSI characters in lieu of 8-bit=
s?
> > If so, it might be treating Rob's characters as parity errors.
>=20
> I am 100% sure that is the issue.
>=20
> I'm using tin on a FreeBSD shell account.=20
>=20
>=20

AH! Sorry, Steve, that's my anti-spam protection. It's how I've chosen=20
to mung my address in a way that doesn't hit a real server.

--=20
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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:14:48 GMT, Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> run for instalation. If people wouldn't install every ****ing piece
>> of pretty software they see, they wouldn't have the spyware problem.
>> It's too bad people are rarely educated enough to know what the
>> trojan war was or what a trojan horse is.

>I never said it came via email. Those spyware programs arrive via cookies
>from particular sites ... As to ezula, that shows up everytime I load up

no they don't. Cookies aren't executeables. Cookies are just data that
sites leave on your computer that other sites can read/check. They
can be used to spy where you go, but they aren't "spyware". Spyware is
software installed on your machine between you and the internet. They
log all web access and download additional pop ads. A fine example is
a popup ad where they affected website doesn't have any advertising content.
The ads can even pop up when you aren't connected to the internet.
Cookies can't cause popups.


>Lotus Notes, and with that OE Fix program ... I've also seen it come in an
>occasional cookie as well.

>Bob

"O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
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In article <[email protected]>, veldy71
@yahoo.com says...
<snipped>

Really? For me, OE Quotefix created a new program group in my start
menu, and then, in that group, there's a setting that lists "Outlook
Express with OE Quotefix" Click on that, and OE starts up with Quotefix
running. I even deleted the regular OE shortcuts and copied that one
into place.

See if that's an option for you.

Oh, it was an option, but it still loaded ezula using OE-Fix ... So, I'd
rather use the plain jane version of OE.

Bob