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  1. #1
    Dr Wakk
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    so what? it COULD be unlimited free usage if it was on a Sat or Sun or
    after peak times....so i guess not ALL minutes on holidays may count toward
    your anytime inute total on your plan.....


    "Al" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > All minutes used New Years Day count against your Peak minutes.
    > SprintPCS has no Holiday minutes.
    >
    > Now watch all the lame SprintPCS apologists ( Smith, Arends, Vargas)
    > attack the messenger, but ignore the fact:
    >
    > All minutes used New Years Day count against your Peak minutes.
    > SprintPCS has no Holiday minutes.
    >
    > All minutes used New Years Day count against your Peak minutes.
    > SprintPCS has no Holiday minutes.






    See More: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.




  2. #2
    O/Siris
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    [email protected] says...
    > "O/Siris" <[email protected]=EEntpcs.c=F4m> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > It's PCS to PCS minutes. You *do* know you can use those
    > > on New Year's Day also, don't you?

    >=20
    > For readers' clarification: PCS-to-PCS is an explicit add-on that costs
    > either money or a contract renewal.
    >=20


    True, but I was simply pointing out that such minutes could be used on=20
    New Year's Day, and, thus, not all minutes would count against peak.

    But, again, true point.

    --=20
    -+-
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  3. #3
    Lawrence G. Mayka
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    "Orac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > number to move to another company. Some may be constrained because they
    > are still under an Advantage Agreement, but most of the complainers, in
    > my experience, have been with Sprint long enough that their agreement
    > expired. Some have even been with Sprint for several years.


    Keep in mind that some time ago, Sprint began demanding an agreement renewal
    in various circumstances, such as changing a service plan; and the set of
    such circumstances has continued to increase. (For a while, Sprint was
    reportedly demanding an agreement renewal simply to perform a phone
    replacement a.k.a. ESN swap.) So even multi-year customers often end up on
    a new Advantage Agreement, because when caught in a given circumstance they
    don't see any reasonable alternative.

    Also keep in mind that aside from Advantage Agreements, the carrier-locking
    of phones also discourages movement between carriers. A family of four who
    has hundreds of dollars invested in nice phones cannot economically just
    discard them all and buy new ones on another carrier (or downgrade to the
    entry-level free phones that the other carrier might offer).





  4. #4
    Bob Smith
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.


    "Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Orac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news[email protected]
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > number to move to another company. Some may be constrained because they
    > > are still under an Advantage Agreement, but most of the complainers, in
    > > my experience, have been with Sprint long enough that their agreement
    > > expired. Some have even been with Sprint for several years.

    >
    > Keep in mind that some time ago, Sprint began demanding an agreement

    renewal
    > in various circumstances, such as changing a service plan; and the set of
    > such circumstances has continued to increase.


    They did? I've changed plans midstream in several AA time periods, without
    having to extend my contract. The only time I had to do another AA was when
    I added the F&CA option to the account Dec / 02. I do seem to remember
    where SPCS required a new AA on a promotional plan, on when doing a
    retention deal where SPCS offered more than what was advertised.

    (For a while, Sprint was
    > reportedly demanding an agreement renewal simply to perform a phone
    > replacement a.k.a. ESN swap.) So even multi-year customers often end up

    on
    > a new Advantage Agreement, because when caught in a given circumstance

    they
    > don't see any reasonable alternative.
    >
    > Also keep in mind that aside from Advantage Agreements, the

    carrier-locking
    > of phones also discourages movement between carriers. A family of four

    who
    > has hundreds of dollars invested in nice phones cannot economically just
    > discard them all and buy new ones on another carrier (or downgrade to the
    > entry-level free phones that the other carrier might offer).


    Yes, but I don't believe this point should be included in this discussion.
    Each company offers phones from different manufacturers, which another
    company can't and won't support. Even on those phones that other carriers mi
    ght carry, they have different firmware / software than the originating
    carrier.

    Bob





  5. #5
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:17:20 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> "Orac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news[email protected]
    >> > In article <[email protected]>,
    >> > number to move to another company. Some may be constrained because they
    >> > are still under an Advantage Agreement, but most of the complainers, in
    >> > my experience, have been with Sprint long enough that their agreement
    >> > expired. Some have even been with Sprint for several years.

    >>
    >> Keep in mind that some time ago, Sprint began demanding an agreement

    >renewal
    >> in various circumstances, such as changing a service plan; and the set of
    >> such circumstances has continued to increase.

    >
    >They did? I've changed plans midstream in several AA time periods, without
    >having to extend my contract. The only time I had to do another AA was when
    >I added the F&CA option to the account Dec / 02. I do seem to remember
    >where SPCS required a new AA on a promotional plan, on when doing a
    >retention deal where SPCS offered more than what was advertised.


    F&CA option or you switched to the F&CA plan? I added the F&CA option
    onto my account with no plan extension.

    Tom Veldhouse



  6. #6
    Bob Smith
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.


    "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:17:20 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:


    <snipped>
    > >
    > >They did? I've changed plans midstream in several AA time periods,

    without
    > >having to extend my contract. The only time I had to do another AA was

    when
    > >I added the F&CA option to the account Dec / 02. I do seem to remember
    > >where SPCS required a new AA on a promotional plan, on when doing a
    > >retention deal where SPCS offered more than what was advertised.

    >
    > F&CA option or you switched to the F&CA plan? I added the F&CA option
    > onto my account with no plan extension.
    >
    > Tom Veldhouse


    The option. At least that's the only change I can think I did just before
    Christmas/02, which triggered a new AA.

    Bob





  7. #7
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:34:48 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:17:20 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    ><snipped>
    >> >
    >> >They did? I've changed plans midstream in several AA time periods,

    >without
    >> >having to extend my contract. The only time I had to do another AA was

    >when
    >> >I added the F&CA option to the account Dec / 02. I do seem to remember
    >> >where SPCS required a new AA on a promotional plan, on when doing a
    >> >retention deal where SPCS offered more than what was advertised.

    >>
    >> F&CA option or you switched to the F&CA plan? I added the F&CA option
    >> onto my account with no plan extension.
    >>
    >> Tom Veldhouse

    >
    >The option. At least that's the only change I can think I did just before
    >Christmas/02, which triggered a new AA.
    >
    >Bob
    >



    I didn't think they offered F&CA in 2002. And when they first started
    offering it, I thought they only offered the F&CA plan. It wasn't
    until just a couple of months back that they started selling it as an
    add-on instead.

    Tom Veldhouse
    ----

    Thomas T. Veldhouse



  8. #8
    Bob Smith
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.


    "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    <snipped>
    > I didn't think they offered F&CA in 2002. And when they first started
    > offering it, I thought they only offered the F&CA plan. It wasn't
    > until just a couple of months back that they started selling it as an
    > add-on instead.
    >
    > Tom Veldhouse


    IIRC, it was offered in a few selected markets, including Charlotte, NC back
    in Dec.

    Now, in saying all that before, I just did a Google search on my Dec/02
    posts, and it wasn't adding F&CA as an option which triggered a new AA. It
    was changing to the promotional plan I'm on now.

    Bob





  9. #9
    SprintingForService
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    Thomas T. Veldhouse <

    >>Hello Thomas;
    >>
    >>I think pretty much everyone knew exactly what he was refering to when
    >>he made his comment. I find it difficult to indict him for a simple
    >>syntax error, especially when everyone knew what he meant.

    >
    >
    > That is no syntax error. We all make those, or gross *****ing errors.
    > You fail to understand Phillip and his intent. He has ALWAYS
    > attempted to stir up trouble with Sprint PCS. That is his only agenda
    > (well, he is doing it for AT&T now too).


    Hello Thomas;

    What you describe are judgement calls on your part. They're judgement
    calls I don't happen to support. To assume that he is here to stir up
    trouble, simply because he tends to post negatives about Sprint, implies a
    level of attachment to Sprint that would tend to make people question
    impartiality.



  10. #10
    SprintingForService
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 08:27:47 GMT, SprintingForService
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Of course you don't Phil/Steven.

    >>
    >>Hello again Mr. Arends;
    >>
    >>I believe you have me mistaken for someone else.

    >
    > And you wonder why? Geeze.


    Yes I do wonder why Thomas.



  11. #11
    SprintingForService
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in newsWWIb.18608
    [email protected]:

    >
    > "SprintingForService" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > <snipped>
    >> Howdy Mike;
    >>
    >> You're absolutely correct it is simple to keep track of my minutes.
    >> However; like many it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking that on
    >> holidays all talk time counts against nights and weekend minutes.
    >>
    >> A friendly reminder like he provided hurts noone and helps those who may
    >> have been thinking of Sprint as generous in that manner.

    >
    > With Phillipe and his other aliases, there are no friendly reminders ...
    > Just misstatements, lies and misquoting of other posters.


    Hello Bob,

    You might say that he has posted mistatements, lies imply a level of intent
    that you can't possibly know about Phil through this medium, as for
    friendly reminders, he comes off much friendlier than the anti-phil crowd.
    Much.



  12. #12
    SprintingForService
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 08:06:40 GMT, SprintingForService
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>Howdy Thomas,
    >>
    >>Some people may not be aware that PCS-PCS frequently cost extra and that
    >>not all plans include them.
    >>
    >>From the bit that's showing from O/S's post one might get the impression
    >>everyone's got them.

    >
    > Hola SprintingForService,
    >
    > Somehow, I don't think O/Sirus had any intent on educating the
    > "reader" with his post. Don't you think you deliberately took that
    > out of context?


    Howdee Thomas;

    Not at all on my part. But If I were to follow the same set of standards
    you apply here then you would have to admit that that's what was done to
    Phil on the holidays threads.

    > It was clearly aimed at Phillip, who has made all of
    > our nerves raw here over the past few months.


    Phil has no control over you that you don't give to him. If you're raw
    it's because you freely choose to feel that way.



  13. #13
    SprintingForService
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    "chris russell" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:32YIb.19983$P%[email protected]:

    >
    > "SprintingForService" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]
    >> "leo" <[email protected]> wrote in newsxCIb.28373$Pg1.22715
    >> @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
    >> > site as proving it honored Holiday Minutes in the USA.

    >> Hi Leo,

    > <snipped>
    >>
    >> Similiarly I'm more concerned that Carriers providing service both
    >> here

    > and
    >> in Europe offer incomming calls free there but charge against the
    >> bank of minutes here.

    >
    > You can't compare US and European carriers and plans, since European
    > plans are not available here.


    Hi Chris;

    I can compare anything I like. The intent of the comments was to lament
    the fact that the European style plans aren't available here. Or at
    least the better aspects of them.


    > Before you wrote this, you should have
    > checked Nextel's plans as they do have a 'free' incoming call plan.



    Well that's certainly news to me. Do you have a link to the details? Or
    is that free incoming calls on their walkie talkies?


    >
    >> Similiarly if I recall that link provided correctly I was far more
    >> interested in the fact that reasonable night times were incorporated
    >> into normal plans there. If memory services the plan's night time
    >> started at 6 or 7 vice the what seems the industry standard here of
    >> 9.

    >
    > From the time I have had SPCS (1998), they have offered variously 7, 8
    > or 9 pm. The original off-peak start time in the US was 10 pm.


    I know, at one point I had the 7. The industry standard here now seems
    to be 9 though.

    >
    >> From where I'm sitting it looks like Americans are getting raped by
    >> their cell service providers when compared to European service.

    >
    > But in Europe, you are stuck with GSM. I beleieve that SPCS's CDMA is
    > infinately better. It's interesting that the law-mandated GSM
    > carriers in Europe are going to WCDMA, a CDMA overlay for GSM systems.


    Sure there are trade-offs to everything, but I would really like to see
    that free incoming calls, and standard 6 nighttimes, incorporated into
    the plans as standard here.



  14. #14
    SprintingForService
    Guest

    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    "Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:rAYIb.19989$P%[email protected]:

    > Bob, I knew that SPCS had that plan in the past (it was the one I
    > started on in 1998), but I just wanted to make him aware that the
    > Nextel plan is still currently available.
    > He's trying to make
    > authoritative statements when he hasn't checked easily available info.



    And I certainly thank you for that Chris.

    As a matter of fact now that I went to take a look at the site I do
    remember seeing that plan. They have unlimited anytime and night time
    minutes which technically isn't the same as free incoming calls. And like
    most cell company plans wading through them to get to what is and isn't
    covered isn't exactly what I would call "easy". Just look at sprint with
    it's vision addons.

    Unless you've got another plan in mind I thing we should be comparing
    apples to apples and not apples to oranges.

    My understanding is that Europeans have the incoming calls free as pretty
    much standard on all tiers of service not just the most expensive plan.


    > Also I was aware that callers to cell phones in Europe pay all
    > incoming fees to the cell phone. I wouldn't say that we are getting
    > 'ripped off'.


    I'd like to see the pricing structure on this. Anyone got any links?



  15. #15
    SprintingForService
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    Re: WARNING: New Years is not a Holiday at SprintPCS.

    "Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:HrYIb.19988$P%[email protected]:

    > If you just started 'lurking' for about two weeks before posting, then
    > you are unaware of 'Justin' who was Phillipe's tag-team trolling
    > partner last year. You could look in this newsgroup and 90% of the
    > posts were from Phillipe or Justin. Until Justin was rightly
    > humiliated, this newsgroup was useless. Because of that, there is a
    > high awareness of trolling activity here-especially since Phillipe has
    > changed his id more than a dozen times to get around kill filters (and
    > supposedly not a SPCS customer anymore since he's gone to ATTWS).


    The Justin you speak of doesn't really interest me to be frank Chris.


    > It's also interesting that you reply using the poster's name, but yet
    > you haven't given us your name. There are many of us out here who are
    > not afraid of attaching our posts to our names.


    Chris I respond to people based on the name of choice when they post. In
    your case Chris. I you would prefer I respond to you as something else
    than start addressing your posts as someone else.

    I imagine that someone might be interested in this fact if they had a
    predeliction for disrespecting people sure. I could change tomorrow my id
    to Rudy and would that be any more accurate than Sprinting for Service or
    Chris Russel for that matter? We have nothing but your assurance that that
    is your real name. In fact it's fairly petty to even be bringing this up.
    Since posting as SprintingforService here is far more descriptive of me
    than posting as Chris Russel here is of you I don't really see what your
    problem is with it.

    Anonymous posting is common. If you choose to ascribe a negative to it
    that says more about you than me.



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