Is this a legal phone?

> Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
> numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
> and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
> speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.
>
> --
> Earl F. Parrish
>

It doesn't, but it has one-touch dialing which could be activated without
removing the phone from your head. -Dave

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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:11:27 -0500, "Dave C."
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
>> numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
>> and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
>> speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.
>>
>> --
>> Earl F. Parrish
>>
>
>It doesn't, but it has one-touch dialing which could be activated without
>removing the phone from your head. -Dave
>

Or auto answer set to on for incoming calls. A person can control
when they make a call. Having the phone strapped to your head with AA
on would take care of the incoming calls that are beyond your control.

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:05:20 -0500, Isaiah Beard
<[email protected]> posted to alt.cellular.verizon:

>Al Klein wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:11:03 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
>> <[email protected]> posted to alt.cellular.verizon:

>> The New York law specifies that the violation is holding the phone up
>> to your ear to hear it. It doesn't specify "with your hand". (It
>> does specify that "cell phone" refers to a device connected to the
>> public switched telephone network, though, eliminating any connection
>> to two-way radios.)

>Not necessarily... quite a few two-way radios have "phone patch"
>capability, which was a special channel that allows a call to be placed
>(sometimes by a dispatcher, but automated systems are common) and
>connected to the two-way radio, just the same way the old, old
>pre-cellular MTS system worked.

I know what a patch is - and, according to NY law, if you hold the
radio to your ear while connected to a patch you're in violation.

> It's a clunky interface and limited of
>course by the fact that the radio user must "push to talk" while the
>person on the phone may still they can have a full-duplex conversation

Unless one has radios on 2 bands, and the patch is running through 2
repeaters.

>Even if the phone patch isn't used any longer, I'm sure no one's
>bothered to remove that capability. Hence, I imagine most police radios
>still fall under the cell phone category according to this law, and they
>just don't realize it.

They do WHEN the phone is actually connected to the PSTN - which is
almost never done any more, except in amateur radio.

"Bozo the Clown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> KM <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> > make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> > unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> > be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> > bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> > the fine.
> >
> > My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> > would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> > picture?
> >
> > http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
> >
> > KM
>
> Hahahaha! Wasn't someone selling those on eBay a couple of years ago
> as hands-free device? I seem to remember the same picture.

Yeah, they had a nice plastic bag/header package too. It said something
like "Available colors: tan, desert sand, and flesh-tone."


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"Earl F. Parrish" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "KM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> > make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> > unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> > be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> > bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> > the fine.
> >
> > My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> > would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> > picture?
> >
> > http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
> >
> > KM
>
> Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
> numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
> and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
> speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.

Maybe he dials out before starting up the car.


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On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:26:44 GMT, "Earl F. Parrish"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
>numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
>and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
>speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.

Evidently you haven't read a whole lot of articles related to hands
free versus holding the phone. It's not just the holding of the
phone, but the distraction of the call which is a good part of the
problem.

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>
> Evidently you haven't read a whole lot of articles related to hands
> free versus holding the phone. It's not just the holding of the
> phone, but the distraction of the call which is a good part of the
> problem.
>
>

Yup, I've said many times that if talking on a cell phone while driving is a
problem, then the practice should be outlawed completely. Specifying that
you must use a hands-free kit solves nothing, as the problem is the
conversation takes your mind off the road. -Dave