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  1. #1
    Matt
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    I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    Does anyone know?

    My second question is about the phone's firmware/software. I
    would prefer to be running the latest and greatest of both. Is an
    upgrade something that must be done in the store? Does Samsung release
    new software for their phones fairly often?



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  2. #2
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware


    "Matt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    > it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    > porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    > Does anyone know?


    Not a clue. You might check the manual which came with the phone. If it
    doesn't show up there, download the manual from your manage page.

    >
    > My second question is about the phone's firmware/software. I
    > would prefer to be running the latest and greatest of both. Is an
    > upgrade something that must be done in the store? Does Samsung release
    > new software for their phones fairly often?


    No, not unless a bug has been found with the phone. You can bookmark this
    following link, to check out every so often -
    http://www.sprintpcsinfo.com/modules...showpage&pid=9 The
    most recent PRL is 10021.

    If you find that a firmware upgrade has been issued, you must go down to
    your local SPCS store to upgrade the phone. As to the PRL, that can be
    upgraded OTA.

    Bob






  3. #3
    Matt
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    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Matt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    >> it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    >> porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    >> Does anyone know?

    >
    > Not a clue. You might check the manual which came with the phone. If it
    > doesn't show up there, download the manual from your manage page.


    Its not in either manual. If anyone knows, please post.

    > The most recent PRL is 10021.


    How do I check my PRL revision? I assume its phone specific,
    but is it do-able from the regular menus?

    Here is another stupid question. My phone appears to be voice
    dial capable. I was able to "train" it to recognize numbers. But the
    manual says that voice dial costs money... If the voice dial feature is
    entirely within the phone, how does Sprint charge for it? How would
    Sprint know whether you voice dialed vs regular dialed?



  4. #4
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware


    "Matt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > "Matt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > >> I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    > >> it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    > >> porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    > >> Does anyone know?

    > >
    > > Not a clue. You might check the manual which came with the phone. If it
    > > doesn't show up there, download the manual from your manage page.

    >
    > Its not in either manual. If anyone knows, please post.
    >
    > > The most recent PRL is 10021.

    >
    > How do I check my PRL revision? I assume its phone specific,
    > but is it do-able from the regular menus?


    No, it's not phone specific, at least not with the newer phones. (The Nokia
    6835 had a different PRL and the single band phones did as well, but all the
    dual band phones for the past two years use the same PRL.)

    I don't have your model, but there should be something in your menu, about
    phone version of phone info, where it and the firmware will be listed.
    >
    > Here is another stupid question. My phone appears to be voice
    > dial capable. I was able to "train" it to recognize numbers. But the
    > manual says that voice dial costs money... If the voice dial feature is
    > entirely within the phone, how does Sprint charge for it? How would
    > Sprint know whether you voice dialed vs regular dialed?


    You are confused ... These are two different functions. One is with the
    phone, Voice dial, and it doesn't cost you any more money. Most phones have
    the ability to have 20 Voice Dials set up.

    Then there is Voice command, where it costs $5/mo. You set up numbers
    through SPCS and you call them on * Talk. You then say the name, like call
    John at work, and it dials John's work phone. With Voice Command, you can
    have 500 numbers to call.

    Bob





  5. #5
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> "Matt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >>> I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    >>> it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    >>> porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    >>> Does anyone know?

    >>
    >> Not a clue. You might check the manual which came with the phone. If it
    >> doesn't show up there, download the manual from your manage page.

    >
    > Its not in either manual. If anyone knows, please post.


    It generally won't be. Probably some Qualcomm chipset. I don't think Samsung
    rolls their own chips, though I might be wrong.

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  6. #6
    John Richards
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    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    Bob Smith wrote:

    > You are confused ... These are two different functions. One is with the
    > phone, Voice dial, and it doesn't cost you any more money. Most phones have
    > the ability to have 20 Voice Dials set up.


    No wonder he's confused! The manual that came with my phone (Samsung
    VGA1000) says nothing about Voice Dial, although I'm pretty sure it has
    that capability.

    --
    John Richards





  7. #7
    Central
    Guest

    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:13:55 +0000, Matt wrote:

    > I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    > it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    > porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    > Does anyone know?
    >
    > My second question is about the phone's firmware/software. I
    > would prefer to be running the latest and greatest of both. Is an
    > upgrade something that must be done in the store? Does Samsung release
    > new software for their phones fairly often?


    Ok first off the cpu of the phone does not matter since you will never
    get an application onto the phone to function natively with its hardware.
    This is of course short of being a sprint tech/in-bed with samsung where
    you have not only access and knowledge to/of the phones firmware/hardware
    but also have the utils to patch it against sprint's modified firmware and
    upload it(I'm assuming you want to keep the phone working). All
    applications that are user accessible are ran out of a j2me vm sandbox
    supporting cldc/midp which doesn't even allow direct hardware access. As
    for reading your manual, don't the one supplied with the phone is a
    generic sprint manual that is designed at best to teach you how to
    activate the phone, use basic functions of the phone, and learn more about
    services you should buy from sprint. When you login to sprint's website
    they give you an option to download a more indepth pdf manual of your
    phone and if not you can go direct to samsung's website and find it. If
    you are thinking about porting applications over keep in mind most sprint
    phones will not provide alot of bang with slow memory access times and on
    some phones ungodly slow cpus. Also cldc lacks any access to the phones
    sound system other then through error alert notices that make sounds. This
    is of course not true on all phones some manufactures have made extensions
    for just their phone model that allows you to access more features of the
    phone and sprint may have such a thing in their developer kit but that I
    don't know. Hopefully they will release their extensions for agps

    Oh well in short to port applications you just need to learn about
    j2me/cldc but keep in mind that cldc was made with the idea of lowest
    feature set for even the slowest mobile devices and doesn't even include
    floating point math since math coprocessor is a luxary on some of these
    devices (there are third party classes that will provide the function but
    its not part of the standard) Anyway there are newer versions of midp/cldc
    usually refered to as next generation versions which are promising but not
    yet on our phones.



  8. #8
    Frank Harris
    Guest

    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    I think the current Samsung phones such as the 600, 620, and 660 have
    the Qualcomm MSM 6100 chipset, or some similar MSM 6xxx chipset

    http://www.cdmatech.com/solutions/pr...t_solution.jsp

    I think the Sanyo 8100 has the same.

    --
    Frank Harris in San Francisco with an A620




  9. #9
    Isaiah Beard
    Guest

    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    Matt wrote:



    >
    > How do I check my PRL revision? I assume its phone specific,
    > but is it do-able from the regular menus?


    It should be. Somewhere in the main menu of the phone (or perhaps in
    settings) there should be a "Phone Info" option. Select it, and you
    should see a number of stats about your phone, including your phone
    number, firmware revision and PRL.

    If it's not in "Phone Info" then some phones have it under "Display."

    > Here is another stupid question. My phone appears to be voice
    > dial capable. I was able to "train" it to recognize numbers. But the
    > manual says that voice dial costs money... If the voice dial feature is
    > entirely within the phone, how does Sprint charge for it?


    That's actually a different service, called Voice Command (not to be
    confused with your phone's voice dial feature). Voice Command is a
    network-based option, and is independent of what phone you use. You
    activate it by dialing * and pressing "talk." The voice dial feature on
    your phone has nothing to do with Voice Command.

    A neat feature is that your voice directory stays with you, even if you
    change phones. This is because the phone numbers aren't stored on your
    phone, but on a server that handles the voice command service.


    > How would
    > Sprint know whether you voice dialed vs regular dialed?


    Well, Voice Command isn't a per-call charge. It's a monthly add on for
    $5 a month, unlimited use (not including your airtime, of course).


    --
    E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.




  10. #10
    Isaiah Beard
    Guest

    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    Frank Harris wrote:

    > I think the current Samsung phones such as the 600, 620, and 660 have
    > the Qualcomm MSM 6100 chipset, or some similar MSM 6xxx chipset
    >
    > http://www.cdmatech.com/solutions/pr...t_solution.jsp
    >
    > I think the Sanyo 8100 has the same.
    >

    No, the 8100 uses the 5150 chipset.


    --
    E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.




  11. #11
    Matt
    Guest

    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    Central <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:13:55 +0000, Matt wrote:
    >> I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    >> it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    >> porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    >> Does anyone know?

    >
    > Ok first off the cpu of the phone does not matter since you will never
    > get an application onto the phone to function natively with its hardware.


    <snip>

    So just to let everyone know, I was not going to port the apps
    to native code or write assembly or something like that. I was planning
    on porting to Java. I have downloaded the J2ME and am going to start
    playing around with it this week. Thanks for all the answers.





  12. #12
    Central
    Guest

    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:06:37 +0000, Matt wrote:

    > Central <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:13:55 +0000, Matt wrote:
    >>> I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    >>> it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    >>> porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    >>> Does anyone know?

    >>
    >> Ok first off the cpu of the phone does not matter since you will never
    >> get an application onto the phone to function natively with its hardware.

    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > So just to let everyone know, I was not going to port the apps
    > to native code or write assembly or something like that. I was planning
    > on porting to Java. I have downloaded the J2ME and am going to start
    > playing around with it this week. Thanks for all the answers.


    Yeah its relatively simple depending on the program. Only issues I have
    ran into is wither or not the phone supports all of the networking
    connections provided by the format. Some phones allow raw sockets while
    others only allow http streams. Sun's j2me package includes some test
    applications that will run on your phone/phones and give you an idea of
    what they support tho there are probly user forums that list this
    information anyway. It is nice to double check just incase.



  13. #13
    David W. Studeman
    Guest

    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware

    Matt wrote:

    > I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    > it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    > porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    > Does anyone know?
    >
    > My second question is about the phone's firmware/software. I
    > would prefer to be running the latest and greatest of both. Is an
    > upgrade something that must be done in the store? Does Samsung release
    > new software for their phones fairly often?


    You need to know what OS the firmware is based on and have the ability to
    compile apps against it. Architecture is just the beginning.




    Dave



  14. #14
    Joe Gill
    Guest

    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware


    "Central" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:06:37 +0000, Matt wrote:
    >
    > > Central <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:13:55 +0000, Matt wrote:
    > >>> I have a Samsung vi660 and I was curious what type of processor
    > >>> it was running. I have some applications that I am interested in
    > >>> porting to it, but I am concerned about how much horsepower it has.
    > >>> Does anyone know?
    > >>
    > >> Ok first off the cpu of the phone does not matter since you will never
    > >> get an application onto the phone to function natively with its

    hardware.
    > >
    > > <snip>
    > >
    > > So just to let everyone know, I was not going to port the apps
    > > to native code or write assembly or something like that. I was planning
    > > on porting to Java. I have downloaded the J2ME and am going to start
    > > playing around with it this week. Thanks for all the answers.

    >
    > Yeah its relatively simple depending on the program. Only issues I have
    > ran into is wither or not the phone supports all of the networking
    > connections provided by the format. Some phones allow raw sockets while
    > others only allow http streams. Sun's j2me package includes some test
    > applications that will run on your phone/phones and give you an idea of
    > what they support tho there are probly user forums that list this
    > information anyway. It is nice to double check just incase.


    Have your seem / been to
    http://developer.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.do

    SprintPCS Application Developers Site ...Free Registration / Usage...





  15. #15
    Jared Reynolds
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    Re: Phone CPU & Firmware


    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Matt wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    > > How do I check my PRL revision? I assume its phone specific,
    > > but is it do-able from the regular menus?

    >
    > It should be. Somewhere in the main menu of the phone (or perhaps in
    > settings) there should be a "Phone Info" option. Select it, and you
    > should see a number of stats about your phone, including your phone
    > number, firmware revision and PRL.
    >
    > If it's not in "Phone Info" then some phones have it under "Display."


    Just in case someone else goes looking for this answer:

    Samsung A660/VI660: Menu | Settings (7) | Phone Info (9) | Scroll to second
    page

    --Jared





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