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  1. #1
    Terry Knab
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    blackicehaven has apperantly been banned from Ebay for his stunt of selling
    referrals, so here are more lamers that should be shut down.

    pwrsellercalif
    kingoftheocean (how is he doing $20 without scamming the referral
    program!?)
    ye1-low


    I guess we all did our jobs in getting that blackicehaven idiot shut down.
    =)





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  2. #2
    Scott Nelson
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    Re: More Ebay referral scammers

    When you ( or anyone for that matter ) come across these people, can you
    post the e-bay links?
    The more people sending in these 'items' into the fraud department from
    different people, the better.
    I have sent in links from the NG ( when they spam anyway ) to both the
    carriers, their ISP, Paypal ( or other payment processing places )
    and e-bay.

    Every little bit helps.

    Seems to help keep spamming down as well. Not sure if it's true or not but,
    I can't stand to sit around and let the spammers and scammers get away with
    it. ;-)

    Scotty



    "Terry Knab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > blackicehaven has apperantly been banned from Ebay for his stunt of

    selling
    > referrals, so here are more lamers that should be shut down.
    >
    > pwrsellercalif
    > kingoftheocean (how is he doing $20 without scamming the referral
    > program!?)
    > ye1-low
    >
    >
    > I guess we all did our jobs in getting that blackicehaven idiot shut down.
    > =)
    >
    >






  3. #3
    Bob Smith
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    Re: More Ebay referral scammers


    "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > When you ( or anyone for that matter ) come across these people, can you
    > post the e-bay links?
    > The more people sending in these 'items' into the fraud department from
    > different people, the better.
    > I have sent in links from the NG ( when they spam anyway ) to both the
    > carriers, their ISP, Paypal ( or other payment processing places )
    > and e-bay.
    >
    > Every little bit helps.
    >
    > Seems to help keep spamming down as well. Not sure if it's true or not

    but,
    > I can't stand to sit around and let the spammers and scammers get away

    with
    > it. ;-)
    >
    > Scotty


    Do you have a direct email addy to the fraud dept? I couldn't find one, and
    the addresses I creatively tried i.e.: [email protected] &
    [email protected] bounced.

    Bob





  4. #4
    Robert M.
    Guest

    Re: More Ebay referral scammers

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > When you ( or anyone for that matter ) come across these people, can you
    > post the e-bay links?
    > The more people sending in these 'items' into the fraud department from
    > different people, the better.
    > I have sent in links from the NG ( when they spam anyway ) to both the
    > carriers, their ISP, Paypal ( or other payment processing places )
    > and e-bay.
    >
    > Every little bit helps.
    >
    > Seems to help keep spamming down as well. Not sure if it's true or not but,
    > I can't stand to sit around and let the spammers and scammers get away with
    > it. ;-)
    >
    > Scotty



    Sprint PCS and / or eBay must have taken action as I see no such
    "cell numbers to use for referrals" auctions on ebay today.



  5. #5
    tom ronson
    Guest

    Re: More Ebay referral scammers


    "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Every little bit helps.


    Helps who? The #733 system is automated and you need both the referrer and
    referees # to make it work so SPCS isn't getting hurt. Or are you sayin you
    care that there's folks stupid enough to bite on such a lame offer? Let
    Darwin thin the herd a little, will ya?

    (not sure why you guys getting your panties in a wad over this pisses me
    off, but it does --- so stop being a RAT and let Darwin teach a few lessons
    already)





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  6. #6
    Scott Nelson
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    Re: More Ebay referral scammers

    From the few times I have done it, I have gotten a good response from the
    'contact us' link at the bottom of the main page ( without being logged on
    to your account. ). It opens up a web-post form.

    I just send em a little subject line like "possible fraud" and copy/paste
    the e-bay link url.

    They send me a response back saying they have notified e-bay and are
    contacting the individual/store/vendor.
    Whether they are or not, is another story. ;-)

    Scotty



    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > When you ( or anyone for that matter ) come across these people, can you
    > > post the e-bay links?
    > > The more people sending in these 'items' into the fraud department from
    > > different people, the better.
    > > I have sent in links from the NG ( when they spam anyway ) to both the
    > > carriers, their ISP, Paypal ( or other payment processing places )
    > > and e-bay.
    > >
    > > Every little bit helps.
    > >
    > > Seems to help keep spamming down as well. Not sure if it's true or not

    > but,
    > > I can't stand to sit around and let the spammers and scammers get away

    > with
    > > it. ;-)
    > >
    > > Scotty

    >
    > Do you have a direct email addy to the fraud dept? I couldn't find one,

    and
    > the addresses I creatively tried i.e.: [email protected] &
    > [email protected] bounced.
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >






  7. #7
    Scott Nelson
    Guest

    Re: More Ebay referral scammers

    True, but, if they are doing this, what else are they doing?
    Scammers are scammers.
    Most fraud depts work overtime on this stuff and if we can help them out a
    bit, maybe we can stop something later one down the road.
    Especially in the case of crooked SprintPCS resellers. I always have to ask
    what else are they scamming out of you if they are doing this?
    Are they also selling peoples/subscribers info to make money? It's not so
    much the individual, it's the crooked dealers that get me. ;-)

    Plus, it's one less possible post of "I got screwed by E-Bay scam
    artist/dealer" in this NG. ;-)

    Scotty



    "tom ronson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    > > Every little bit helps.

    >
    > Helps who? The #733 system is automated and you need both the referrer and
    > referees # to make it work so SPCS isn't getting hurt. Or are you sayin

    you
    > care that there's folks stupid enough to bite on such a lame offer? Let
    > Darwin thin the herd a little, will ya?
    >
    > (not sure why you guys getting your panties in a wad over this pisses me
    > off, but it does --- so stop being a RAT and let Darwin teach a few

    lessons
    > already)
    >
    >
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  8. #8
    Terry Knab
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    Re: More Ebay referral scammers

    Scanning blackicehaven's former referral scam sales, he made at least a
    grand or two off of his scamming.

    Every freaking scammer like that causes every one of us to pay higher rates,
    endure service reps possibly being farmed out to India, and so on.

    Its called Theft of Service. Stealing from Sprint is something legitimate
    customers have to pay for. Why do you think they curbed the referral
    program to begin with?


    "tom ronson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    > > Every little bit helps.

    >
    > Helps who? The #733 system is automated and you need both the referrer and
    > referees # to make it work so SPCS isn't getting hurt. Or are you sayin

    you
    > care that there's folks stupid enough to bite on such a lame offer? Let
    > Darwin thin the herd a little, will ya?
    >
    > (not sure why you guys getting your panties in a wad over this pisses me
    > off, but it does --- so stop being a RAT and let Darwin teach a few

    lessons
    > already)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  9. #9
    Robert M.
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    Re: More Ebay referral scammers

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Plus, it's one less possible post of "I got screwed by E-Bay scam
    > artist/dealer" in this NG. ;-)


    The problem is it's a SCAM of SprintPCS and their referral program,
    rather than a scam of the consumer. The seller feedback for these
    dealers is all positive, folks apparently like the fat credits they can
    get on their account. So no, folks are not complaining to eBay other
    than us who think its not proper to scam Sprint.



  10. #10
    Scott Nelson
    Guest

    Re: More Ebay referral scammers

    I was talking about the other "probable" scams they "might" be into.
    Obviously, E-Bay and SprintPCS think the same way as, they have already
    cancelled E-Bay accounts and revoked a reseller agreement for one "person".

    I think it is a good marketing tools for SprintPCS.
    I think though that anything good, can be subverted and ^%$& it up for the
    rest of us. :-(.

    Scotty



    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Plus, it's one less possible post of "I got screwed by E-Bay scam
    > > artist/dealer" in this NG. ;-)

    >
    > The problem is it's a SCAM of SprintPCS and their referral program,
    > rather than a scam of the consumer. The seller feedback for these
    > dealers is all positive, folks apparently like the fat credits they can
    > get on their account. So no, folks are not complaining to eBay other
    > than us who think its not proper to scam Sprint.






  11. #11
    Terry Knab
    Guest

    Re: More Ebay referral scammers


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Plus, it's one less possible post of "I got screwed by E-Bay scam
    > > artist/dealer" in this NG. ;-)

    >
    > The problem is it's a SCAM of SprintPCS and their referral program,
    > rather than a scam of the consumer. The seller feedback for these
    > dealers is all positive, folks apparently like the fat credits they can
    > get on their account. So no, folks are not complaining to eBay other
    > than us who think its not proper to scam Sprint.


    For once, I actually agree with Phil on something. (Hell is freezing over!)
    But then again, if you legitimately refer someone and your referral gets
    stolen by one of the referral scammers on ebay, that's not fair to you since
    you (as the legitmate person referring) should get the $20, not someone who
    paid for that number on Ebay or otherwise.





  12. #12
    tom ronson
    Guest

    Re: More Ebay referral scammers


    "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > True, but, if they are doing this, what else are they doing?


    Feeding starving children? Stealing cars? Who cares!

    > Scammers are scammers.


    And be glad that you know how to recognize them --- and pitty those who
    don't.

    > Most fraud depts work overtime on this stuff and if we can help them out a
    > bit, maybe we can stop something later one down the road.


    Ya, you and superman --- give Darwin some elbow room, let him do his thing.

    > Are they also selling peoples/subscribers info to make money?


    Ya, ya, ya --- and Saddam maybe had WMD --- what is any of this to you?

    > Plus, it's one less possible post of "I got screwed by E-Bay scam
    > artist/dealer" in this NG. ;-)


    Which is worse? Me laughing at a moron who got scammed, or reading this
    hysterical crap? I prefer the laugh, every time!! And please do me a
    favor --- send me a google search on ANY fraud claim from ebay, other a
    phone that can't be activated because the seller didn't pay the final bill
    on it. I don't recall a single post that covers what you think you've seen
    here before.

    My suggestion, step back into your virtual house and chill out. And as Phil
    points out (cough) the guy is not getting slammed by his customers --- only
    those who THINK he's doing something wrong.

    --tr





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  13. #13
    tom ronson
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    Re: More Ebay referral scammers


    "Terry Knab" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Scanning blackicehaven's former referral scam sales, he made at least a
    > grand or two off of his scamming.


    Good for him ---- bad for you?

    > Every freaking scammer like that causes every one of us to pay higher

    rates,
    > endure service reps possibly being farmed out to India, and so on.


    Sending jobs offshore would happen no matter what, but you'd know that if
    you read the news and not ebay.

    > Its called Theft of Service. Stealing from Sprint is something legitimate
    > customers have to pay for.


    Okay, tell me how you know this is theft of service? Maybe the guy tells
    folks all the stuff that Sprint should be telling folks right up front like
    "bring a friend and get yourself $20". Why the referer program is the best
    kept secret at Sprint is beyond me. Same with the dropped call credit. For
    all you know the guy has taken all the tips from here (referer credit,
    retention plans, etc, etc) and put all that info in one place. Hardly a
    scam, my friend.

    >Why do you think they curbed the referral
    > program to begin with?


    Because they couldn't administer it? Because Sprint's never been friendly to
    the customer under contract? Because they're lazy? Because some SPCS
    employee was feeding new numbers to a pal and they split the 'profits'? WTF
    knows. I do know that the current system, where you input both numbers and
    the system checks the parameters to see if it's a legit claim, would be hard
    to boondoggle without knowing both numbers ---- and you'd be giving yourself
    up to collect the credit.

    Anyway, carry on with the hysteria, if you must. But given the guy's
    feedback and that most folks live in fear I doubt he's doing anything
    terribly illegal. Probably doing nothing more than what's done on this NG on
    a daily basis (referrer program mentions and retention plan mentions).
    Coming to think about it maybe we're the scammers, dumb ones too, since we
    don't get paid for the information? We talk about ways to get the best deal
    from Sprint you can get ---- and do it at least 10 times a week. Maybe
    Sprint needs to have this NG shutdown --- since we're conspiring to save a
    few bucks, within the system.

    --tr





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