Where's the Beef?

In article <[email protected]>,
palm filler <dealer @iris.edu> wrote:

> I was just telling my story. Sorry you are having trouble with
> Sprint.

Just got some more credits from Executive Services after my account
was again bolixed up. And last month I got a free RL2500. Life is good.
Sprint PCS CSRs are the pits.

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
> >
> > <Snipped>
> > > >
> > > > I've never seen an add that says we have coverage everywhere.
> > >
> > > How about the Sprint PCS website?
> > >
> > > http://www.whysprint.com/thenetworkdifference/
> > >
> > > " The Network Difference
> > > Wireless service is only as good as the network it runs on. At Sprint,
> > > we built ours from the ground up and made it the most complete,
> > > all-digital wireless network in the nation.
> > > Why is this important? Because many other networks are a patchwork of
> > > different systems trying to work together. And that can result in
> > > unpredictable service. Sprint is different. All your voice and data
> > > services work the same wherever you go on our network.
> > > Today, the enhanced Sprint Nationwide PCS Network connects more than 240
> > > million people. Over 20,000 individual cell sites all across America
> > > ensure that your signal gets through. "
> >
> > And just where does it say that coverage is everywhere in the text you
> > included?
> >
> > Bob
>
>
> I was about to ask the same thing. As for the F&C America plan, that
> map shows all the roaming partners with the plans, too, not just
> Sprint PCS coverage.


It's not what Sprint says, its the misleading impression they purposely
make that is the issue. If they had proper coverage maps, they could be
excused for the marketing exuberence.

"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Just got some more credits from Executive Services after my account
> was again bolixed up. And last month I got a free RL2500. Life is good.
> Sprint PCS CSRs are the pits.

You're a ****ing idiot. In one breath you talk about what SPCS gives you
then in the next slam them. And you wonder why you get bounced from one
department to the next? Sheeeeyit, they know its you and don't want any part
of the heartburn that comes with your incessant drivel.

And for the 100th time, why did you leave ATTW? Their service is waaaay
better than SPCS, it must be --- considering that you've not said a kind
word about SPCS in all of your constant haranguing.

But let me repeat the part I really want to you understand, which is that
you're a ****ing idiot.

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"tom ronson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Just got some more credits from Executive Services after my account
> > was again bolixed up. And last month I got a free RL2500. Life is good.
> > Sprint PCS CSRs are the pits.
>
> You're a ****ing idiot. In one breath you talk about what SPCS gives you
> then in the next slam them. And you wonder why you get bounced from one
> department to the next? Sheeeeyit, they know its you and don't want any
part
> of the heartburn that comes with your incessant drivel.
>
> And for the 100th time, why did you leave ATTW? Their service is waaaay
> better than SPCS, it must be --- considering that you've not said a kind
> word about SPCS in all of your constant haranguing.
>
> But let me repeat the part I really want to you understand, which is that
> you're a ****ing idiot.

Tom, I have this feeling that you are holding back. Tell us what you
realllllllllllllllly think ...

Bob

PS: I believe you've underestimated the number of times ole Phillipe has
been asked that question.

"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
>
> > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> > > "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > > [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
> > >
> > > <Snipped>
> > > > >
> > > > > I've never seen an add that says we have coverage everywhere.
> > > >
> > > > How about the Sprint PCS website?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.whysprint.com/thenetworkdifference/
> > > >
> > > > " The Network Difference
> > > > Wireless service is only as good as the network it runs on. At Sprint,
> > > > we built ours from the ground up and made it the most complete,
> > > > all-digital wireless network in the nation.
> > > > Why is this important? Because many other networks are a patchwork of
> > > > different systems trying to work together. And that can result in
> > > > unpredictable service. Sprint is different. All your voice and data
> > > > services work the same wherever you go on our network.
> > > > Today, the enhanced Sprint Nationwide PCS Network connects more than 240
> > > > million people. Over 20,000 individual cell sites all across America
> > > > ensure that your signal gets through. "
> > >
> > > And just where does it say that coverage is everywhere in the text you
> > > included?
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> >
> > I was about to ask the same thing. As for the F&C America plan, that
> > map shows all the roaming partners with the plans, too, not just
> > Sprint PCS coverage.
>
>
> It's not what Sprint says, its the misleading impression they purposely
> make that is the issue. If they had proper coverage maps, they could be
> excused for the marketing exuberence.

They say that their own network is not a "patchwork" of other
networks, which can lead to inconsistent coverage and service.

It also says that Sprint's network is more reliable, the network
itself covers over 240 million people and Sprint has over 20,000 cel
sites.

Where does it say that it has 100% coverage in the US?

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "TechGeek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> <snipped>
>
>
> > I was about to ask the same thing. As for the F&C America plan, that
> > map shows all the roaming partners with the plans, too, not just
> > Sprint PCS coverage.
>
> Speaking of the F&CA map, do you have a url for that? I've been looking for
> it, and can't seem to find it now.
>
> Bob

I hope this works;
http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/co...=1077658766698

Kinda a large URL, but for the roaming included plans, all off-network
roaming is free (up to 50% of your minutes).

Local stores and the pull down menu on that site have more detailed
maps.

If the URL doesn't work, go to www.sprintpcs.com

Click on shopping, plans and coverage (to the left), then view roaming
coverage.

Most of the off-network roaming is analog, so you'll need a dual band
or dual band-tri mode handset to use it.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

> but for the roaming included plans, all off-network
> roaming is free (up to 50% of your minutes).

Only for Corporate plans. Most affiliates offer a fixed number of
roaming minutes.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

> They say that their own network is not a "patchwork" of other
> networks, which can lead to inconsistent coverage and service.
>
> It also says that Sprint's network is more reliable, the network
> itself covers over 240 million people and Sprint has over 20,000 cel
> sites.
>
> Where does it say that it has 100% coverage in the US?

Where does it say that it too is a patchwork?

Robert M. <[email protected]> wrote:

>> They say that their own network is not a "patchwork" of other
>> networks, which can lead to inconsistent coverage and service.
>>
>> It also says that Sprint's network is more reliable, the network
>> itself covers over 240 million people and Sprint has over 20,000 cel
>> sites.
>>
>> Where does it say that it has 100% coverage in the US?
>
> Where does it say that it too is a patchwork?

It's not.

And before you whine "but what about the affiliate markets", I guarantee you
that they were NOT originally built by different companies and folded into
Sprint. You're simply wrong... the networks were all built by Sprint or under
Sprint's supervision.

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"TechGeek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "TechGeek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > <snipped>
> >
> >
> > > I was about to ask the same thing. As for the F&C America plan, that
> > > map shows all the roaming partners with the plans, too, not just
> > > Sprint PCS coverage.
> >
> > Speaking of the F&CA map, do you have a url for that? I've been looking
for
> > it, and can't seem to find it now.
> >
> > Bob
>
> I hope this works;
>
http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/co...=1077658766698
>
> Kinda a large URL, but for the roaming included plans, all off-network
> roaming is free (up to 50% of your minutes).
>
> Local stores and the pull down menu on that site have more detailed
> maps.
>
> If the URL doesn't work, go to www.sprintpcs.com

Thanks Tech, but that's not the map I was talking about. The one I was
looking for was tagged onto the F&CA explanation and it was in different
colors.

Bob

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Tom, I have this feeling that you are holding back. Tell us what you
> realllllllllllllllly think ...

lol ---- geez, if THAT wasn't straight forward enough for you......

I never seen such a moron in all my days, and I do some reading on NG's on a
daily basis, so there's plenty of opportunity to find a bigger butthole than
Phil. But time and time again he wins the award as the 'biggest idiot of on
the internet' at any given moment. I do wonder why SPCS keeps the jackass as
a customer ---- but do believe that's why he gets jacked around when he
calls for service.

> PS: I believe you've underestimated the number of times ole Phillipe has
> been asked that question.

I meant just my queries --- so that number's pretty close to right, I think






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"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
>
> > They say that their own network is not a "patchwork" of other
> > networks, which can lead to inconsistent coverage and service.
> >
> > It also says that Sprint's network is more reliable, the network
> > itself covers over 240 million people and Sprint has over 20,000 cel
> > sites.
> >
> > Where does it say that it has 100% coverage in the US?
>
> Where does it say that it too is a patchwork?

It doesn't because it is not. Your quote says:

> > > Why is this important? Because many other networks are a patchwork of
> > > different systems trying to work together. And that can result in
> > > unpredictable service. Sprint is different. All your voice and data
> > > services work the same wherever you go on our network.


They're talking about other networks, Sprint had nothing, just a large
bank account, when they started. When the FCC auctioned off the
1900MHz spectrum lisences, Sprint bought as many as they could, nad
built the network up from nothing. It's all one company who built it,
so one company's standard as opposed to several other companies who
all used different standards over the 800MHz spectrum.

But this is als straying from my original question, where does it say
that Sprint has 100% coverage over the US? Not even the roaming plans
say that you will.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

> obfuscation.

Where does Sprint PCS say its nationwide plan is more holes than network?

"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
>
> > obfuscation.
>
> Where does Sprint PCS say its nationwide plan is more holes than network?

SPCS has never said they cover the entire nation.

Bob

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<Ud6%[email protected]>...
> "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
> >
> > > obfuscation.
> >
> > Where does Sprint PCS say its nationwide plan is more holes than network?
>
> SPCS has never said they cover the entire nation.
>
> Bob


True, maybe he should make this statement over on the Verizon forum
since Verizon used to show their "coverage" maps, it showed the entire
country covered, and below, in very small print, it would say
"coverage may vary". They even showed full coverage in northern
Alaska in the arctic circle.