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  1. #1
    putty
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    If I'm about to activate a phone, should I write down all the numbers
    they tell me to enter? What advantage does that have?



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  2. #2
    Bob Smith
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    Re: What does M-S-L mean?


    "putty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > If I'm about to activate a phone, should I write down all the numbers
    > they tell me to enter? What advantage does that have?


    It's the Master Subsidy Lock for your phone. It's allows the phone to be
    programmed with your phone number, and to change settings. (Don't change any
    settings)

    What advantage? Some people think that by having the MSL, they can use the
    phone on other providers. Only thing is that unless the ESN is in the other
    provider's databank, they probably won't activate the phone on their system.

    Some people have reported that they were able to move a SPCS phone to Alltel
    or Verizon, but it's very rare indeed to. Why should those other providers
    prove support on a phone which isn't sold through their system, and which
    isn't a model they offer to begin with.

    Having the MSL is really not all that important to have ...

    Bob





  3. #3
    Kenneth Crudup
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    Re: What does M-S-L mean?


    "MSL" is "Mobile Subsidy Lock"; it's done to keep you from using
    the phone on another carrier. I'll leave others to tell you what
    else you can do should you know your MSL.

    -Kenny

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  4. #4
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: What does M-S-L mean?

    Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Some people have reported that they were able to move a SPCS phone to Alltel
    > or Verizon, but it's very rare indeed to. Why should those other providers
    > prove support on a phone which isn't sold through their system, and which
    > isn't a model they offer to begin with.


    That's the thing. I know you can move a subsidy-locked phone to Verizon if
    you have the MSL *and* it's a phone Verizon has firmware for. If they don't
    already sell it and therefore don't have firmware for it (e.g. any Sanyo)
    you're probably screwed, but with the Samsungs and the Nokias (especially
    the 3588, which is essentially the same thing as the Verizon 3589 but with
    different firmware) you're probably ok.

    > Having the MSL is really not all that important to have ...


    Sure it is. It's just not the only thing to have. The other provider still
    has to get in to program the phone.

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  5. #5
    Steph
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    Re: What does M-S-L mean?

    putty <[email protected]> wrote in news:090320041250028673%[email protected]:

    > If I'm about to activate a phone, should I write down all the numbers
    > they tell me to enter? What advantage does that have?



    Master
    Subsidy
    Lock

    The hardware cost is offset by the retailer because you are signing up
    for their service with a contract. So a phone with a MSRP of $500 can be
    had for $150. The MSL is supposed to prevent you from then taking the
    hardware subsidized by SPCS and moving it to another carrier that using
    the same technology.

    There are some other reasons to have the MSL, one of which it adds
    slightly to the value of the handset should you opt to resell later (see
    above). It also let's you access options in the phones software not
    normally available.

    Most of the time these options might as well be left alone, as the
    system you operate on knows what ability your phone has been provisioned
    for (you cannot activate MO-SMS and instantly have that feature for
    example).

    Being a tinkerer I like having the MSL for my phones, unfortunately once
    they start replacing the handset at the service counter it is gone, the
    MSL is tied to each individual ESN.

    The easiest way to obtain it is activate over the telephone or web and
    claim the first code did not work (the one-time activation), the second
    code they give will be the keys.




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    I.T.
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    Re: What does M-S-L mean?

    Kmon that is an easy one!

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    "Steph" <[email protected]_CUT> wrote in message
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    > putty <[email protected]> wrote in news:090320041250028673%[email protected]:
    >
    > > If I'm about to activate a phone, should I write down all the numbers
    > > they tell me to enter? What advantage does that have?

    >
    >
    > Master
    > Subsidy
    > Lock
    >
    > The hardware cost is offset by the retailer because you are signing up
    > for their service with a contract. So a phone with a MSRP of $500 can be
    > had for $150. The MSL is supposed to prevent you from then taking the
    > hardware subsidized by SPCS and moving it to another carrier that using
    > the same technology.
    >
    > There are some other reasons to have the MSL, one of which it adds
    > slightly to the value of the handset should you opt to resell later (see
    > above). It also let's you access options in the phones software not
    > normally available.
    >
    > Most of the time these options might as well be left alone, as the
    > system you operate on knows what ability your phone has been provisioned
    > for (you cannot activate MO-SMS and instantly have that feature for
    > example).
    >
    > Being a tinkerer I like having the MSL for my phones, unfortunately once
    > they start replacing the handset at the service counter it is gone, the
    > MSL is tied to each individual ESN.
    >
    > The easiest way to obtain it is activate over the telephone or web and
    > claim the first code did not work (the one-time activation), the second
    > code they give will be the keys.
    >






  7. #7
    INTELLER2
    Guest

    Re: What does M-S-L mean?

    Silly: Master Lock Code
    "I.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Kmon that is an easy one!
    >
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    > Small
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    >
    > "Steph" <[email protected]_CUT> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > putty <[email protected]> wrote in news:090320041250028673%[email protected]:
    > >
    > > > If I'm about to activate a phone, should I write down all the numbers
    > > > they tell me to enter? What advantage does that have?

    > >
    > >
    > > Master
    > > Subsidy
    > > Lock
    > >
    > > The hardware cost is offset by the retailer because you are signing up
    > > for their service with a contract. So a phone with a MSRP of $500 can be
    > > had for $150. The MSL is supposed to prevent you from then taking the
    > > hardware subsidized by SPCS and moving it to another carrier that using
    > > the same technology.
    > >
    > > There are some other reasons to have the MSL, one of which it adds
    > > slightly to the value of the handset should you opt to resell later (see
    > > above). It also let's you access options in the phones software not
    > > normally available.
    > >
    > > Most of the time these options might as well be left alone, as the
    > > system you operate on knows what ability your phone has been provisioned
    > > for (you cannot activate MO-SMS and instantly have that feature for
    > > example).
    > >
    > > Being a tinkerer I like having the MSL for my phones, unfortunately once
    > > they start replacing the handset at the service counter it is gone, the
    > > MSL is tied to each individual ESN.
    > >
    > > The easiest way to obtain it is activate over the telephone or web and
    > > claim the first code did not work (the one-time activation), the second
    > > code they give will be the keys.
    > >

    >
    >






  8. #8
    Steph
    Guest

    Re: What does M-S-L mean?

    Hmmm, maybe you are confused about what an acronym is.
    Perhaps you meant M-S-L stood for Master [Silly] Lock-Code ? <g>


    "INTELLER2" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Silly: Master Lock Code
    > "I.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Kmon that is an easy one!
    >>
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    >> Small
    >> Large
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    >> > putty <[email protected]> wrote in news:090320041250028673%[email protected]:
    >> >
    >> > > If I'm about to activate a phone, should I write down all the
    >> > > numbers they tell me to enter? What advantage does that have?
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Master
    >> > Subsidy
    >> > Lock
    >> >

    [SNIP]



  9. #9
    inteller2
    inteller2 is offline
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    Re: Re: What does M-S-L mean?

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by INTELLER2
    [B]Silly: Master Lock Code
    "I.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Kmon that is an easy one!
    >
    > Medium
    > Small
    > Large
    >




    Where did i post this, don't remember it????????????
    Last edited by inteller2; 03-31-2004 at 08:55 PM.



  10. #10
    inteller2
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    Re: Re: What does M-S-L mean?

    Originally posted by INTELLER2
    [B]Silly: Master Lock Code
    "I.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected][color=blue]
    > Kmon that is an easy one!
    >
    > Medium
    > Small
    > Large
    >

    Where did i post this, don't remember it?????????



  11. #11
    Nick B.I.
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    Re: What does M-S-L mean?

    Actually, it stands for Master Subsidy Lock



    "inteller2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > INTELLER2 wrote:
    > > [B]Silly: Master Lock Code
    > > "I.T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Kmon that is an easy one!
    > > >
    > > > Medium
    > > > Small
    > > > Large
    > > >

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    >
    > Where did i post this, don't remember it?????????
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