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- 03-12-2004, 10:08 PM #1Bob SmithGuest
Just noticed a post on the alt.privacy.spyware Usenet newsgroup, where
Verizon is loading up spyware on their CDs given to new customers ... If
anyone is interested, here's the link -
http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
Bob
PS: If you haven't checked out what's going on with your hard drive and
would like to do so, there are a couple of spyware-malware-adware
detectors/remover software out there that you might want to check out. I've
been using them for awhile, and just had my daughter download and install
these free programs ... She had 105 notifications ...
Spybot S & D - http://www.safer-networking.org/
Ad-Aware - http://lavasoft.element5.com/software/adaware/
It's recommended to update both products each time you start them up.
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- 03-13-2004, 12:36 AM #2Steven J SobolGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
Newsgroups expanded to include alt.cellular.verizon...
Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just noticed a post on the alt.privacy.spyware Usenet newsgroup, where
> Verizon is loading up spyware on their CDs given to new customers ... If
> anyone is interested, here's the link -
> http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
And this relates to SprintPCS how?
Boy, this sucks. I have two VZW lines and no longer need the second line,
and was going to port it to Sprint PCS anyhow, but if this is how VZW
operates I'll cancel the second line outright and port my main number (which
is advertised on my business cards) to Sprint. I have issues with Sprint,
but at least they don't play games like that, and if VZW is going to screw
with people this way, I won't keep my main VZW line *or* the secondary line.
With most of my family members using Sprint anyhow, I'll save lots of
money on airtime...
(What a load of *bull****.* They don't deserve new customers if this is
how the new customers get treated?)
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- 03-13-2004, 02:35 AM #3PeterbiltGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
It makes me wonder if there is any way a person could sue for this sort of
thing.
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4Pv4c.18326$%[email protected]...
> Just noticed a post on the alt.privacy.spyware Usenet newsgroup, where
> Verizon is loading up spyware on their CDs given to new customers ... If
> anyone is interested, here's the link -
> http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
>
> Bob
>
> PS: If you haven't checked out what's going on with your hard drive and
> would like to do so, there are a couple of spyware-malware-adware
> detectors/remover software out there that you might want to check out.
I've
> been using them for awhile, and just had my daughter download and install
> these free programs ... She had 105 notifications ...
>
> Spybot S & D - http://www.safer-networking.org/
> Ad-Aware - http://lavasoft.element5.com/software/adaware/
>
> It's recommended to update both products each time you start them up.
>
>
- 03-13-2004, 07:36 AM #4Michael QuinlanGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Newsgroups expanded to include alt.cellular.verizon...
>
> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Just noticed a post on the alt.privacy.spyware Usenet newsgroup, where
> > Verizon is loading up spyware on their CDs given to new customers ... If
> > anyone is interested, here's the link -
> > http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
>
> And this relates to SprintPCS how?
>
> Boy, this sucks. I have two VZW lines and no longer need the second line,
> and was going to port it to Sprint PCS anyhow, but if this is how VZW
> operates I'll cancel the second line outright and port my main number (which
> is advertised on my business cards) to Sprint. I have issues with Sprint,
> but at least they don't play games like that, and if VZW is going to screw
> with people this way, I won't keep my main VZW line *or* the secondary line.
>
> With most of my family members using Sprint anyhow, I'll save lots of
> money on airtime...
>
> (What a load of *bull****.* They don't deserve new customers if this is
> how the new customers get treated?)
No offense, but I read through the links provided in this thread, and
the links that those links contain, and it all seems like a bunch of
CR*P. If any of this were true, particularly the part about having
received instructions on how to remove the "spyware", why doesn't the
author share *THAT* information?
He offers no proof of his statements other copies of easily forged
emails. How can I detect if this has happened to me? How can I
correct the problem if it *HAS* happened to me? He doesn't say, he
doesn't know, because this probably hasn't happened to anybody -
including him.
I'll admit I may be wrong, but to jump on the bandwagon and take such
a flimsy story at face value is ridiculous.
- 03-13-2004, 08:30 AM #5Bob SmithGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
"Michael Quinlan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > Newsgroups expanded to include alt.cellular.verizon...
> >
> > Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Just noticed a post on the alt.privacy.spyware Usenet newsgroup, where
> > > Verizon is loading up spyware on their CDs given to new customers ...
If
> > > anyone is interested, here's the link -
> > > http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
> >
> > And this relates to SprintPCS how?
> >
> > Boy, this sucks. I have two VZW lines and no longer need the second
line,
> > and was going to port it to Sprint PCS anyhow, but if this is how VZW
> > operates I'll cancel the second line outright and port my main number
(which
> > is advertised on my business cards) to Sprint. I have issues with
Sprint,
> > but at least they don't play games like that, and if VZW is going to
screw
> > with people this way, I won't keep my main VZW line *or* the secondary
line.
> >
> > With most of my family members using Sprint anyhow, I'll save lots of
> > money on airtime...
> >
> > (What a load of *bull****.* They don't deserve new customers if this is
> > how the new customers get treated?)
>
> No offense, but I read through the links provided in this thread, and
> the links that those links contain, and it all seems like a bunch of
> CR*P. If any of this were true, particularly the part about having
> received instructions on how to remove the "spyware", why doesn't the
> author share *THAT* information?
First off, I should have added the second link from that alt.privacy.spyware
article. You might want to read at least the first link on the web page.
http://www.obri.net/verizon/ . On this page, he provides a full history of
email sent to Verizon and received from Verizon.
It's not the original author's responsibility to tell everyone how to
remove the spyware.
>
> He offers no proof of his statements other copies of easily forged
> emails. How can I detect if this has happened to me? How can I
> correct the problem if it *HAS* happened to me? He doesn't say, he
> doesn't know, because this probably hasn't happened to anybody -
> including him.
I've seen a quite a few messages with regards to noptify.exe on
alt.privacy.spyware recently. You can see other mentions it on the web by
doing a Google search ... http://www.google.com/search?q=Noptify . From
reading some of the links, this doesn't look like it's a dangerous
adware-spyware product. It's just that I don't like anyone putting any
friggin' files on my hard drive that I don't want or need.
> I'll admit I may be wrong, but to jump on the bandwagon and take such
> a flimsy story at face value is ridiculous.
Take the time to read it the information... It might open your eyes a bit.
Bob
- 03-13-2004, 08:35 AM #6benzplan9Guest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
Michael Quinlan wrote:
> Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
>>Newsgroups expanded to include alt.cellular.verizon...
>>
>>Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Just noticed a post on the alt.privacy.spyware Usenet newsgroup, where
>>>Verizon is loading up spyware on their CDs given to new customers ... If
>>>anyone is interested, here's the link -
>>>http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
>>
>>And this relates to SprintPCS how?
>>
>>Boy, this sucks. I have two VZW lines and no longer need the second line,
>>and was going to port it to Sprint PCS anyhow, but if this is how VZW
>>operates I'll cancel the second line outright and port my main number (which
>>is advertised on my business cards) to Sprint. I have issues with Sprint,
>>but at least they don't play games like that, and if VZW is going to screw
>>with people this way, I won't keep my main VZW line *or* the secondary line.
>>
>>With most of my family members using Sprint anyhow, I'll save lots of
>>money on airtime...
>>
>>(What a load of *bull****.* They don't deserve new customers if this is
>>how the new customers get treated?)
>
>
> No offense, but I read through the links provided in this thread, and
> the links that those links contain, and it all seems like a bunch of
> CR*P. If any of this were true, particularly the part about having
> received instructions on how to remove the "spyware", why doesn't the
> author share *THAT* information?
>
> He offers no proof of his statements other copies of easily forged
> emails. How can I detect if this has happened to me? How can I
> correct the problem if it *HAS* happened to me? He doesn't say, he
> doesn't know, because this probably hasn't happened to anybody -
> including him.
>
> I'll admit I may be wrong, but to jump on the bandwagon and take such
> a flimsy story at face value is ridiculous.
Michael, this claim of spyware is easily confirmed. Get a copy of the
Welcome CD, install it and look for the "phone" home attempts if any.
Oh, be sure your firewall "shields are up". You do have a firewall
don't you?
--
BrZ
- 03-13-2004, 08:48 AM #7Robert M.Guest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Michael Quinlan) wrote:
> I'll admit I may be wrong,
Go run Adaware before making any assumptions.
- 03-13-2004, 09:59 AM #8Scott NelsonGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
Did you read the warning and click on the OK button to continue the install?
;-)
It's sucks but, other than education and not installing the software, there
is not much you can do.
I am not ditching Verizon for it anyway.
I wonder if it could be one of those things that maybe the software vendor
is doing it and Verizon doesn't even know it happening, kind of things?
Scotty
"Peterbilt" <amazon-*****@REMOVETHEOBVIOUSeudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It makes me wonder if there is any way a person could sue for this sort of
> thing.
>
> "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4Pv4c.18326$%[email protected]...
> > Just noticed a post on the alt.privacy.spyware Usenet newsgroup, where
> > Verizon is loading up spyware on their CDs given to new customers ... If
> > anyone is interested, here's the link -
> > http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > PS: If you haven't checked out what's going on with your hard drive and
> > would like to do so, there are a couple of spyware-malware-adware
> > detectors/remover software out there that you might want to check out.
> I've
> > been using them for awhile, and just had my daughter download and
install
> > these free programs ... She had 105 notifications ...
> >
> > Spybot S & D - http://www.safer-networking.org/
> > Ad-Aware - http://lavasoft.element5.com/software/adaware/
> >
> > It's recommended to update both products each time you start them up.
> >
> >
>
>
>
- 03-13-2004, 10:04 AM #9Scott NelsonGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
If phone service is not as important as making calls, more power to ya. :-)
I've got both SprintPCS and Verizon and there are times when SprintPCS just
isn't there coverage-wise.
My business model can't be without a phone.
It's another one of those YMMV things I guess. ;-)
Scotty
"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Newsgroups expanded to include alt.cellular.verizon...
>
> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Just noticed a post on the alt.privacy.spyware Usenet newsgroup, where
> > Verizon is loading up spyware on their CDs given to new customers ... If
> > anyone is interested, here's the link -
> > http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
>
> And this relates to SprintPCS how?
>
> Boy, this sucks. I have two VZW lines and no longer need the second line,
> and was going to port it to Sprint PCS anyhow, but if this is how VZW
> operates I'll cancel the second line outright and port my main number
(which
> is advertised on my business cards) to Sprint. I have issues with Sprint,
> but at least they don't play games like that, and if VZW is going to screw
> with people this way, I won't keep my main VZW line *or* the secondary
line.
>
> With most of my family members using Sprint anyhow, I'll save lots of
> money on airtime...
>
> (What a load of *bull****.* They don't deserve new customers if this is
> how the new customers get treated?)
>
> --
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0xE3AE35ED
> Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) /
[email protected]
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> "someone once called me a sofa, but i didn't feel compelled to rush out
and buy
> slip covers." -adam brower * Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows
98/2000/2003
- 03-13-2004, 10:49 AM #10Robert M.Guest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
In article <[email protected]>,
"Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wonder if it could be one of those things that maybe the software vendor
> is doing it and Verizon doesn't even know it happening, kind of things?
It certainly could.
- 03-13-2004, 11:08 AM #11Bob SmithGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if it could be one of those things that maybe the software
vendor
> > is doing it and Verizon doesn't even know it happening, kind of things?
>
> It certainly could.
Verizon certainly knows what's going on, via the email replies to the
original poster our of Rio Linda, CA ...
Bob
- 03-13-2004, 11:09 AM #12benzplan9Guest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
Robert M. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Scott Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I wonder if it could be one of those things that maybe the software vendor
>>is doing it and Verizon doesn't even know it happening, kind of things?
>
>
> It certainly could.
If so it means Verizon is sending out software that they have no idea
what it does!!!
I don't think so. Otherwise it puts all Verizon software, firmware,
products, and services under suspicion.
--
BrZ
- 03-13-2004, 01:26 PM #13Steven J SobolGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Scott Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> If phone service is not as important as making calls, more power to ya. :-)
Yawn. Everyone tells me that. People keep on parroting the same tired line
over and over again. Fact is, back in Mentor on the Lake, Ohio, Sprint
managed to get a tower built at Reynolds Road and Lake Shore Blvd in Mentor,
two minutes from my house, and until Verizon fixed their coverage issues in
M-O-L, Sprint had *far* better coverage there.
Sprint and Verizon seem to be equal here. Verizon has a couple issues in
one or two spots in the Victorville/Apple Valley area, but given their
track record of addressing coverage issues, I'm not worried that they will
get fixed;
> I've got both SprintPCS and Verizon and there are times when SprintPCS just
> isn't there coverage-wise.
So? I have both and there are times when Verizon isn't there coverage-wise
either.
Actually, I want to keep a Verizon account open because Sprint isn't
deploying 1x-EV/DO and won't be deploying EV/DV for a year or two, while
Verizon is supposedly launching EV/DO nationwide later this year and is
testing it in San Diego and DC now. But if Verizon is going to treat
their customers in the manner described on the web page, I don't need 'em.
I have a Sprint PCS account authorized for two lines. I only have one line
on the account currently. I got my second Verizon line for business purposes,
but I no longer need it, so when the contracts on both lines are up in June,
I will be getting rid of one of them regardless. Either I will keep the one
VZW line and move the second line to Sprint or I'll close both VZW lines
and end up with two cell phones instead of three. How this spyware issue
plays out will decide exactly what I do in June.
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- 03-13-2004, 01:28 PM #14Steven J SobolGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
benzplan9 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It certainly could.
>
> If so it means Verizon is sending out software that they have no idea
> what it does!!!
>
> I don't think so. Otherwise it puts all Verizon software, firmware,
> products, and services under suspicion.
I have to agree with this. I think Verizon Wireless knows exactly what they're
doing, and I think it's going to bite them in the ass.
Fortunately, I live in an area served by the television stations that also
service the second-largest broadcast market in the country. It may be time
to call down to Los Angeles and get a couple consumer reporters interested
in the story.
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- 03-13-2004, 01:30 PM #15Kenneth CrudupGuest
Re: Verizon is spying ...
In article <4Pv4c.18326$%[email protected]>,
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> says:
>http://rlenews.com/04/040311.html#verizon
Paranoia. We aren't given any info as to what it's trying to send. For
all we know, it could be determining if there's an update available.
-Kenny
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