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  1. #31
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace

    Robert M. wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Not only that, but while Michael makes it seem that Sprint is bumbling
    >>in the wireline sector, the truth us that nearly ALL ILECs are losing
    >>market share.

    >
    >
    > So if another ILEC is losing market share, that makes Sprint good?


    Phillipe, don't twist my words around to suit your logic. My point is
    that your view of Sprint's performance is myopic. You failed to take
    the entire sector's results into perspective.


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  2. #32
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace

    Eric wrote:

    > (Phillipe's Quoted Post)
    > Isaiah Beard wrote:
    > Not only that, but while Michael makes it seem that Sprint is bumbling
    > in the wireline sector, the truth us that nearly ALL ILECs are losing
    > market share.
    >
    > Why did you change the name when you quoted Isaiah?



    Probably because he doesn't want to be attributed when he makes
    inaccurate statements.


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  3. #33
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace

    Scott Nelson wrote:

    > Starpower blows as well.
    >
    > I agree, POTs isn't a money maker and hasn't been for more than 10+ years or
    > so.



    Never was, actually. Even in the days of the Bell System and the old
    network, AT&T made it work by gouging customers in LD and using the
    profits to subsidize local. That's why intercarrier access fess still
    exist: during the breakup, that was a concession the baby bells got,
    because they feared they couldn't turn a profit selling just local service.

    Of course now, LECs make money using either flat-rate packages, selling
    their own long distance service, or making money off of features (call
    waiting, call forwarding, CID and *69) that are built-in to the
    switching equipment and costs them very little if any money to
    implement. If you get basic POTS service that's little more than a bare
    dial-tone, the LEC will lose money off of you, and they will try VERY
    hard to get you to subscribe to a feature package so they can turn a
    profit on servicing your line.


    > I am not sure *HOW* Nextel is doing it with free incoming calls.


    Higher rates. It's no secret that Nextel doesn't compete in price wars.




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  4. #34
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace

    Robert M. wrote:


    > You still haven't idnetified any worker bees at SprintPCS got got any
    > bonus for 2003, let alone 30 times their annual salary.


    Well the way you've told it in here phillipe, there isn't a single
    "worker bee" who deserves a job at Sprint, much less a bonus. Now
    suddenly you're their labor advocate?

    With ombudsmen like you around, I don't think I'd ever vote union.

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  5. #35
    Scott Nelson - Wash DC
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace

    Isn't this all kind of academic?
    It would be one thing to not have SprintPCS service and be talking about how
    bad Sprint is, but when you have the service and talk bad about it, aren't
    you going against your own logic by continuing to use it?

    If I am going to bring up how bad something is without a plan for making it
    better, what's the point?
    If someone thinks a carrier is bad for them, don't use 'em. Go to another
    carrier. Why continue to bad mouth a carrier you use?

    Fairly obvious to me anyway. ;-)
    Why talk about the obvious?

    My .02 anyway........

    Scotty


    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Robert M. wrote:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>Not only that, but while Michael makes it seem that Sprint is bumbling
    > >>in the wireline sector, the truth us that nearly ALL ILECs are losing
    > >>market share.

    > >
    > >
    > > So if another ILEC is losing market share, that makes Sprint good?

    >
    > Phillipe, don't twist my words around to suit your logic. My point is
    > that your view of Sprint's performance is myopic. You failed to take
    > the entire sector's results into perspective.
    >
    >
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  6. #36
    Robert M.
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Scott Nelson - Wash DC" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Why talk about the obvious?


    To the Sprint apologists its not obvious that Sprint landline is losing
    market share and SprintPCS is losing money, and it makes no sense, and
    is a disgrace to give Giant bonuses to its CEO, and worse such giant
    bonuses, while Sprint is laying off.



  7. #37
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Scott Nelson - Wash DC" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Why talk about the obvious?

    >
    > To the Sprint apologists its not obvious that Sprint landline is losing
    > market share and SprintPCS is losing money, and it makes no sense, and
    > is a disgrace to give Giant bonuses to its CEO, and worse such giant
    > bonuses, while Sprint is laying off.


    It's a part of big business Phillipe ... Considering your attitude, maybe
    it's time to get service with China Unicom ...

    Bob ::wondering if Phillipe will figure it out:::





  8. #38
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Scott Nelson - Wash DC" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Why talk about the obvious?

    >
    > To the Sprint apologists its not obvious that Sprint landline is losing
    > market share and SprintPCS is losing money, and it makes no sense, and
    > is a disgrace to give Giant bonuses to its CEO, and worse such giant
    > bonuses, while Sprint is laying off.


    It makes no sense to you, because you have absolutely no common sense,
    business knowledge or industry knowledge. I defy you to reference one post
    in this group where someone has challenged the fact that landline is down.
    You won't, because you won't find one. As for PCS losing money, ever heard
    of network buildout? CapEx? Investing in the future? Name one cellular
    provider that didn't lose money for years before becoming profitable- again,
    you can't, because they don't exist.

    And your whining about them losing money directly contradicts every post you
    make wanting to know why certain savings aren't passed off to you. They
    could have probably saved in excess of $500,000 in salaries if they didn't
    have to ramp up Executive Services to handle the call volumes your posting
    of the phone number numerous times created.





  9. #39
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >


    >
    > Bob ::wondering if Phillipe will figure it out:::
    >
    >


    yeah- right.





  10. #40
    Jim Catero
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace



    Because Philly is TROLL and a MORON.

    Jim C.

    Scott Nelson - Wash DC wrote:
    > Isn't this all kind of academic?
    > It would be one thing to not have SprintPCS service and be talking about how
    > bad Sprint is, but when you have the service and talk bad about it, aren't
    > you going against your own logic by continuing to use it?
    >
    > If I am going to bring up how bad something is without a plan for making it
    > better, what's the point?
    > If someone thinks a carrier is bad for them, don't use 'em. Go to another
    > carrier. Why continue to bad mouth a carrier you use?
    >
    > Fairly obvious to me anyway. ;-)
    > Why talk about the obvious?
    >
    > My .02 anyway........
    >
    > Scotty
    >
    >
    > "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Robert M. wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Not only that, but while Michael makes it seem that Sprint is bumbling
    >>>>in the wireline sector, the truth us that nearly ALL ILECs are losing
    >>>>market share.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>So if another ILEC is losing market share, that makes Sprint good?

    >>
    >>Phillipe, don't twist my words around to suit your logic. My point is
    >>that your view of Sprint's performance is myopic. You failed to take
    >>the entire sector's results into perspective.
    >>
    >>
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    >
    >
    >





  11. #41
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace

    Scott Nelson - Wash DC wrote:

    > Isn't this all kind of academic?
    > It would be one thing to not have SprintPCS service and be talking about how
    > bad Sprint is, but when you have the service and talk bad about it, aren't
    > you going against your own logic by continuing to use it?


    welcome to the world of trolling, Scott. Phillipe, for whatever reason,
    refuses to go to any other carrier. We have reason to believe he tried
    AT&T Wireless, and he ended up trolling their group for a while (he may
    still be, actually). But now he's back with Sprint. Why? Who knows?


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  12. #42
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Another Corporate Disgrace

    Robert M. wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Scott Nelson - Wash DC" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Why talk about the obvious?

    >
    >
    > To the Sprint apologists its not obvious that



    You avoided his question, Phillipe. Why are you still using Sprint PCS
    if you hate it so?



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