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  1. #1
    Ron
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    Apparently Sprint PCs and Motorola have resolved their pricing issues
    and Sprint will again be selling Motorola phones. The Motorola V60v
    will be available shortly (per the internal Sprint web site). The
    higher end (new blue tooth phone please) will be available in 4Q, for
    Christmas I guess.

    Just in the nick of time for me, my heavily used TimePort is getting
    worn. Being in a weak service area the only Sprint phone that gets a
    signal where we live are the Motorola phones. I get "average" service
    on Sprint's network with Motorola but friends that visit get "no
    service" or "next to no service" on the Sprint network using Samsung,
    Sanyo and I think Nokia too.

    Hopefully the newer Motorola phones will provide the same signal
    quality as the older models did.



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  2. #2
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY


    "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Apparently Sprint PCs and Motorola have resolved their pricing issues
    > and Sprint will again be selling Motorola phones. The Motorola V60v
    > will be available shortly (per the internal Sprint web site). The
    > higher end (new blue tooth phone please) will be available in 4Q, for
    > Christmas I guess.
    >
    > Just in the nick of time for me, my heavily used TimePort is getting
    > worn. Being in a weak service area the only Sprint phone that gets a
    > signal where we live are the Motorola phones. I get "average" service
    > on Sprint's network with Motorola but friends that visit get "no
    > service" or "next to no service" on the Sprint network using Samsung,
    > Sanyo and I think Nokia too.
    >
    > Hopefully the newer Motorola phones will provide the same signal
    > quality as the older models did.


    Curious to hear that a Moto phone would get better coverage than a Sanyo.
    Especially an old Timeport.

    I'm guessing you are in Phoenix, or near there?

    Bob





  3. #3
    Larry Thomas
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    [email protected] (Ron) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Apparently Sprint PCs and Motorola have resolved their pricing issues
    > and Sprint will again be selling Motorola phones. The Motorola V60v
    > will be available shortly (per the internal Sprint web site). The
    > higher end (new blue tooth phone please) will be available in 4Q, for
    > Christmas I guess.
    >
    > Just in the nick of time for me, my heavily used TimePort is getting
    > worn. Being in a weak service area the only Sprint phone that gets a
    > signal where we live are the Motorola phones. I get "average" service
    > on Sprint's network with Motorola but friends that visit get "no
    > service" or "next to no service" on the Sprint network using Samsung,
    > Sanyo and I think Nokia too.
    >
    > Hopefully the newer Motorola phones will provide the same signal
    > quality as the older models did.


    Motorola phones on Sprint have consistently ranked at the bottom for
    signal holding ability and drop more calls than other brands. I just
    viewed a graph (based on brand and ESN prefix #) that shows Motorolas
    are by far the worst Sprint phones. Sanyo is tops and Nokia is second.



  4. #4
    TechGeek
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    [email protected] (Larry Thomas) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > Motorola phones on Sprint have consistently ranked at the bottom for
    > signal holding ability and drop more calls than other brands. I just
    > viewed a graph (based on brand and ESN prefix #) that shows Motorolas
    > are by far the worst Sprint phones. Sanyo is tops and Nokia is second.


    I don't need to look at a chart to know that. I've just started
    hearing about his from 'offical' sources, but we'll see how (bad) it
    goes.

    I guess the world's largest semiconductor manufacturer can't get CDMA
    chips right?



  5. #5
    Larry Thomas
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] (Larry Thomas) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > >
    > > Motorola phones on Sprint have consistently ranked at the bottom for
    > > signal holding ability and drop more calls than other brands. I just
    > > viewed a graph (based on brand and ESN prefix #) that shows Motorolas
    > > are by far the worst Sprint phones. Sanyo is tops and Nokia is second.

    >
    > I don't need to look at a chart to know that. I've just started
    > hearing about his from 'offical' sources, but we'll see how (bad) it
    > goes.
    >
    > I guess the world's largest semiconductor manufacturer can't get CDMA
    > chips right?


    Yep but there are a number of people who swear Motorolas are the best
    Sprint phones they've used. Go figure. I know from personal experience
    (Star Tac 7867) that they have problems and do not perform as well as
    Sanyos.



  6. #6
    DavidG
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I guess the world's largest semiconductor manufacturer can't get CDMA
    > chips right?


    No, they can't, since Intel (the world's largest semiconductor
    manufacturer) doesn't design CDMA chips in the first place ;-)

    Moto is approx. #8 in sales worldwide (based on 2002 sales figures, so
    slightly out of date). Intel, Samsung, TI, Toshiba, ST Micro, NEC and
    Infineon all rank higher.

    David



  7. #7
    TechGeek
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    [email protected] (Larry Thomas) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > Yep but there are a number of people who swear Motorolas are the best
    > Sprint phones they've used. Go figure. I know from personal experience
    > (Star Tac 7867) that they have problems and do not perform as well as
    > Sanyos.



    True, and I've met a few of them, but they're always (well >90% of the
    time) in a strong signal area, move to a weaker area, and that's where
    the issues start.



  8. #8
    TechGeek
    Guest

    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    [email protected] (DavidG) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > I guess the world's largest semiconductor manufacturer can't get CDMA
    > > chips right?

    >
    > No, they can't, since Intel (the world's largest semiconductor
    > manufacturer) doesn't design CDMA chips in the first place ;-)
    >
    > Moto is approx. #8 in sales worldwide (based on 2002 sales figures, so
    > slightly out of date). Intel, Samsung, TI, Toshiba, ST Micro, NEC and
    > Infineon all rank higher.
    >
    > David


    Interesting, everything I've seen, points to them.

    But then again, Samsung, Sanyo, LG, and Kyocera all claimed to be out
    #1 seller at a sales rally a few years ago..



  9. #9
    Ron
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    Bob

    North Scottsdale (mountain side).

    However my wife's Uncle near Seattle is also in a weak Sprint area and
    I get service on my Timeport while he doesn't. I think he has a Nokia
    but can't recall.

    Ron

    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<lCk8c.36682$%[email protected]>...
    > "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Apparently Sprint PCs and Motorola have resolved their pricing issues
    > > and Sprint will again be selling Motorola phones. The Motorola V60v
    > > will be available shortly (per the internal Sprint web site). The
    > > higher end (new blue tooth phone please) will be available in 4Q, for
    > > Christmas I guess.
    > >
    > > Just in the nick of time for me, my heavily used TimePort is getting
    > > worn. Being in a weak service area the only Sprint phone that gets a
    > > signal where we live are the Motorola phones. I get "average" service
    > > on Sprint's network with Motorola but friends that visit get "no
    > > service" or "next to no service" on the Sprint network using Samsung,
    > > Sanyo and I think Nokia too.
    > >
    > > Hopefully the newer Motorola phones will provide the same signal
    > > quality as the older models did.

    >
    > Curious to hear that a Moto phone would get better coverage than a Sanyo.
    > Especially an old Timeport.
    >
    > I'm guessing you are in Phoenix, or near there?
    >
    > Bob




  10. #10
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    Larry

    I don't beleive it. I recall the guy in the Sprint Store telling me
    the 2 best phone ever on Sprint where the Motorola TimePort Series and
    one other (can't recall).

    Where is this chart and who made it? Since Sprint hasn'r sold
    Motorola for over 2 years I am having a hrd time believing it. Also,
    consider the #1 rank provider (Verizon) pushes Motorola. The V60,
    then the 720/730. If the phone didn't satisfy they wouldn't be
    promoting them.

    Ron

    [email protected] (Larry Thomas) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] (Ron) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > Apparently Sprint PCs and Motorola have resolved their pricing issues
    > > and Sprint will again be selling Motorola phones. The Motorola V60v
    > > will be available shortly (per the internal Sprint web site). The
    > > higher end (new blue tooth phone please) will be available in 4Q, for
    > > Christmas I guess.
    > >
    > > Just in the nick of time for me, my heavily used TimePort is getting
    > > worn. Being in a weak service area the only Sprint phone that gets a
    > > signal where we live are the Motorola phones. I get "average" service
    > > on Sprint's network with Motorola but friends that visit get "no
    > > service" or "next to no service" on the Sprint network using Samsung,
    > > Sanyo and I think Nokia too.
    > >
    > > Hopefully the newer Motorola phones will provide the same signal
    > > quality as the older models did.

    >
    > Motorola phones on Sprint have consistently ranked at the bottom for
    > signal holding ability and drop more calls than other brands. I just
    > viewed a graph (based on brand and ESN prefix #) that shows Motorolas
    > are by far the worst Sprint phones. Sanyo is tops and Nokia is second.




  11. #11
    Ron
    Guest

    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    I think you need to discuss this in terms of #1 for phones or #1
    overall. Moto is no where near #1 overall. Big in phones and other
    DSPs

    Ron

    [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] (DavidG) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > > I guess the world's largest semiconductor manufacturer can't get CDMA
    > > > chips right?

    > >
    > > No, they can't, since Intel (the world's largest semiconductor
    > > manufacturer) doesn't design CDMA chips in the first place ;-)
    > >
    > > Moto is approx. #8 in sales worldwide (based on 2002 sales figures, so
    > > slightly out of date). Intel, Samsung, TI, Toshiba, ST Micro, NEC and
    > > Infineon all rank higher.
    > >
    > > David

    >
    > Interesting, everything I've seen, points to them.
    >
    > But then again, Samsung, Sanyo, LG, and Kyocera all claimed to be out
    > #1 seller at a sales rally a few years ago..




  12. #12
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    Larry Thomas wrote:



    >>Hopefully the newer Motorola phones will provide the same signal
    >>quality as the older models did.

    >
    >
    > Motorola phones on Sprint have consistently ranked at the bottom for
    > signal holding ability and drop more calls than other brands.


    While it's a forgone conclusion that no Motorola phone will stand up to
    a current-model Vision-capable phone, they were pretty damn good for
    their day. Of course, my opinion is based on personal experiences.

    > I just
    > viewed a graph (based on brand and ESN prefix #) that shows Motorolas
    > are by far the worst Sprint phones.


    In terms of what? Dropped calls, signal clarity, sound quality?

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  13. #13
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    TechGeek wrote:


    > I don't need to look at a chart to know that. I've just started
    > hearing about his from 'offical' sources, but we'll see how (bad) it
    > goes.
    >
    > I guess the world's largest semiconductor manufacturer can't get CDMA
    > chips right?



    Technically no one can unless they plan on licensing Qualcomm's patents.
    I believe Motorola wanted to avoid this when they built the 2G set.

    However, if you take a look at the FCC filings for the V710 (available
    via a link from the phonescoop website, I'll post a URL on request),
    you'll see that the PDFs showing the phone's internals will reveal that,
    although it's a little fuzzy, Qualcomm chips are being used on the V710.
    This might mean we could see some decent CDMA phones from Motorola for
    once.


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  14. #14
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY


    "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Larry
    >
    > I don't beleive it. I recall the guy in the Sprint Store telling me
    > the 2 best phone ever on Sprint where the Motorola TimePort Series and
    > one other (can't recall).


    That had to be quite awhile ago ... as the Sanyos have the best rep now.

    Bob





  15. #15
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: Sprint selling Motorola Phones again.... FINALLY

    Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:

    > However, if you take a look at the FCC filings for the V710 (available
    > via a link from the phonescoop website, I'll post a URL on request),
    > you'll see that the PDFs showing the phone's internals will reveal that,
    > although it's a little fuzzy, Qualcomm chips are being used on the V710.
    > This might mean we could see some decent CDMA phones from Motorola for
    > once.


    Doubt it. The Motorola chipset was the only good non-Qualcomm CDMA chipset
    for a long time - we all know what crap Nokia's original CDMA chipset was.

    Motorolas have traditionally been quite good at holding signals and maintaining
    voice quality. Fit and finish has sucked for a long time, though, and I don't
    see that changing, and then there are debacles like the horribly large number
    of bugs in the T720 that Verizon Wireless sold...

    I think Motorola is overpriced crap, but apparently not for the same reason
    you think it's crap.

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