Slow Vision?

I had a Sanyo 6000 for two years and used the wireless web mainly for
checking sports scores. It worked great and it was $5/month. The phone
stopped working, which was totally my fault, so I picked up the Sanyo 6400.
Once you go that thin it's hard to go back(even though the 6400 is a little
thicker than the 6000). Anyway I called sprint to switch over to the new
phone, which was easy and painless BTW, and they told me that the web would
be $15/month now. I asked if I could just stick to the same web features as
before but they said it wouldn't work with the new phone. Understandable I
guess. Now to my point. Cost=3x as much. Speed=3x as slow. Is it my
phone or the system?

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"dothemath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I had a Sanyo 6000 for two years and used the wireless web mainly for
> checking sports scores. It worked great and it was $5/month. The phone
> stopped working, which was totally my fault, so I picked up the Sanyo
6400.
> Once you go that thin it's hard to go back(even though the 6400 is a
little
> thicker than the 6000). Anyway I called sprint to switch over to the new
> phone, which was easy and painless BTW, and they told me that the web
would
> be $15/month now. I asked if I could just stick to the same web features
as
> before but they said it wouldn't work with the new phone. Understandable
I
> guess. Now to my point. Cost=3x as much. Speed=3x as slow. Is it my
> phone or the system?

Well, it's two different protocols, WW being 2G and using minutes off your
plan, and Vision being 3G and no minutes off your plan.

How old is that Sanyo 6400? I ask as it hasn't been on SPCS's site for quite
a while now. You may need a firmware upgrade. You can check to see if you
have the most current version by going here and comparing it to the details
in your phone.

http://www.sprintpcsinfo.com/modules...showpage&pid=9

Bob

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "dothemath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I had a Sanyo 6000 for two years and used the wireless web mainly for
> > checking sports scores. It worked great and it was $5/month. The phone
> > stopped working, which was totally my fault, so I picked up the Sanyo
> 6400.
> > Once you go that thin it's hard to go back(even though the 6400 is a
> little
> > thicker than the 6000). Anyway I called sprint to switch over to the
new
> > phone, which was easy and painless BTW, and they told me that the web
> would
> > be $15/month now. I asked if I could just stick to the same web
features
> as
> > before but they said it wouldn't work with the new phone.
Understandable
> I
> > guess. Now to my point. Cost=3x as much. Speed=3x as slow. Is it my
> > phone or the system?

>
> Well, it's two different protocols, WW being 2G and using minutes off your
> plan, and Vision being 3G and no minutes off your plan.
>
> How old is that Sanyo 6400? I ask as it hasn't been on SPCS's site for
quite
> a while now. You may need a firmware upgrade. You can check to see if you
> have the most current version by going here and comparing it to the
details
> in your phone.
>
> http://www.sprintpcsinfo.com/modules...showpage&pid=9
>
> Bob
>

Thanks for the reply. The firmware looks like it is current (Firmware
Version 1.032SP). I got the phone(new) from the guy on ebay about a month
ago who has plenty of them. I guess that is how it works. Sprint
discontinues selling a phone model and the leftovers must be sold privately.
I guess I recently missed being able to buy the phone from sprint for 50
bucks. That hurt a little but as long as this one lasts me two years as
well (knock on wood), I'll be happy. I need to test the Vision late night
and see if it is still so slow.
-Bill

"dothemath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for the reply. The firmware looks like it is current (Firmware
> Version 1.032SP). I got the phone(new) from the guy on ebay about a month
> ago who has plenty of them. I guess that is how it works. Sprint
> discontinues selling a phone model and the leftovers must be sold
privately.
> I guess I recently missed being able to buy the phone from sprint for 50
> bucks. That hurt a little but as long as this one lasts me two years as
> well (knock on wood), I'll be happy. I need to test the Vision late
night
> and see if it is still so slow.
> -Bill

Bill, when you try it out, try it out at different places, not just in your
home, but around town as well. Could be that you are in an area that has a
weak signal. If you have the time, you might go to the SPCS store in your
area, and compare how fast your phone is with Vision to other models in the
store.

Bob

My old phone was a 6000, and I just got a new VM4500. It takes some effort
to get used to the heavier, pants-bulging new phone. (I know, I know...the
VM4500 is considered a small, light phone, but the 6000 was featherweight
and very thin.) I also noticed the Web downloads on the new phone is slower
than on the 6000, but in my case I attribute the difference to the color and
graphics I now get with Vision. I'm not sure why text-based browsing on the
6400 would be slower for you.

The new phone has a lot of bells and whistles, but I kinda miss the
simplicity and size of the 6000. Too bad that Sanyo has nothing current
with the same form factor.



Bill

In article <[email protected]>,
"Bill T" <[email protected]> wrote:

> My old phone was a 6000, and I just got a new VM4500. It takes some effort
> to get used to the heavier, pants-bulging new phone. (I know, I know...the
> VM4500 is considered a small, light phone, but the 6000 was featherweight
> and very thin.)

Go to Target and get a GE/Sanyo 8100 case for $9.95 (in the Electronic
section), that will fit your VM4500 and hook on your belt, so as not
bulge your pants

Robert M. wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Bill T" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My old phone was a 6000, and I just got a new VM4500. It takes some
>> effort to get used to the heavier, pants-bulging new phone. (I
>> know, I know...the VM4500 is considered a small, light phone, but
>> the 6000 was featherweight and very thin.)
>
> Go to Target and get a GE/Sanyo 8100 case for $9.95 (in the Electronic
> section), that will fit your VM4500 and hook on your belt, so as not
> bulge your pants


Naw......I'm too used to putting a phone in my pocket. Besides, I'll rather
bulge than look like an engineer circa 1980 ( : ) ).

Bill T wrote:
>
> Robert M. wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Bill T" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> My old phone was a 6000, and I just got a new VM4500. It takes some
> >> effort to get used to the heavier, pants-bulging new phone. (I
> >> know, I know...the VM4500 is considered a small, light phone, but
> >> the 6000 was featherweight and very thin.)
> >
> > Go to Target and get a GE/Sanyo 8100 case for $9.95 (in the Electronic
> > section), that will fit your VM4500 and hook on your belt, so as not
> > bulge your pants
>
> Naw......I'm too used to putting a phone in my pocket. Besides, I'll rather
> bulge than look like an engineer circa 1980 ( : ) ).

And what's wrong with an engineer circa 1980? <g>

Larry
An engineer circa 1980.

Lawrence Glasser wrote:
).
>
> And what's wrong with an engineer circa 1980? <g>


I was an engineering student circa 1980, before I drooped out after one
year. The cool/nerd thing then was to sling your HP calculator in its
genuine leather case from your belt. Man, those HP calculators were
something else: absolutely solid construction, Reverse-Polish-Notation (say
what?), and just screamed "Geek, Geek" at the top of its LED display.

Ahhh, the good ol' days.



Bill

Bill T wrote:
>
> Lawrence Glasser wrote:
> ).
> >
> > And what's wrong with an engineer circa 1980? <g>
>
> I was an engineering student circa 1980, before I drooped out after one
> year. The cool/nerd thing then was to sling your HP calculator in its
> genuine leather case from your belt. Man, those HP calculators were
> something else: absolutely solid construction, Reverse-Polish-Notation (say
> what?), and just screamed "Geek, Geek" at the top of its LED display.
>
> Ahhh, the good ol' days.

I'm ahead of you by about 10 years.

Slide rules, my boy. Slide rules. <g>

Larry

"Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bill T wrote:
> >
> > Lawrence Glasser wrote:
> > ).
> > >
> > > And what's wrong with an engineer circa 1980? <g>
> >
> > I was an engineering student circa 1980, before I drooped out after one
> > year. The cool/nerd thing then was to sling your HP calculator in its
> > genuine leather case from your belt. Man, those HP calculators were
> > something else: absolutely solid construction, Reverse-Polish-Notation
(say
> > what?), and just screamed "Geek, Geek" at the top of its LED display.
> >
> > Ahhh, the good ol' days.
>
> I'm ahead of you by about 10 years.
>
> Slide rules, my boy. Slide rules. <g>
>
> Larry

Oh geez ... I still have my slide rule from the ole college days. Where? I
have no friggin' clue, but it's in some old box ... LOL.

Bob::who never had a pocket protector::

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Oh geez ... I still have my slide rule from the ole college days. Where? I
> have no friggin' clue, but it's in some old box ... LOL.
>
> Bob::who never had a pocket protector::
>
>

Thanks for the violent flashback. Sitting in physics and calculus, using
that damn contraption. I still remember the first calculator mydad bought-
$400 TI, and the most complex function was the square root key.

"Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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> Bill T wrote:
> >=20
> > Lawrence Glasser wrote:
> > ).
> > >
> > > And what's wrong with an engineer circa 1980? <g>
> >=20
> > I was an engineering student circa 1980, before I drooped out after =
one
> > year. The cool/nerd thing then was to sling your HP calculator in =
its
> > genuine leather case from your belt. Man, those HP calculators were
> > something else: absolutely solid construction, =
Reverse-Polish-Notation (say
> > what?), and just screamed "Geek, Geek" at the top of its LED =
display.
> >=20
> > Ahhh, the good ol' days.
>=20
> I'm ahead of you by about 10 years.
>=20
> Slide rules, my boy. Slide rules. <g>
>=20
> Larry

And I've got *you* by 15 more years.
Circa 1955, we had belt clips for our 25-cm Kueffel & Esser Log Log =
Duplex Decitrigs.
---JRC---

Lawrence Glasser wrote:
>>
> Slide rules, my boy. Slide rules. <g>



Ahhh, slide rules.

I remember the only thing they taught us about slide rules. It was a
first-semester course, "Principles of Engineering" or some such, and the
prof gave a 1 hour talk on the slide rule for historical interest. I think
(it's been a long time) that he handed out some slide rules for us to play
with. At the time, most of us students actually had seen slide rules, and
in fact I knew how to work one to 4 significant digits. But by then all of
us had calculators, with the geek-elite having leather-encased HP's hanging
on their belts. I had an HP, but for some reason I just carry it with me in
my hand. I wish I had kept that calculator; it's prob. a collector's item
by now.



Bill T


P.S. This was also in the days of Fortran and Pascal. I could access
real-time Basic by dialing into the 300 Baud acoustic coupler. One of the
student's 12-year old kid brother actually wrote a Pong-like game in C -
boy, I was impressed; he's prob. a retired dot.com billionaire by now.

Bill T wrote
> I remember the only thing they taught us about slide rules.

I remember that our high school math class had a HUGE slide rule
(must have been six feet wide and a foot high) hanging from
the top of the blackboard. It was used for instruction/
demonstration.