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  1. #1
    Skankin
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    hi I am trying to upgrade my 8100 to the trio 600 or the hatachi 1000
    which is a better phone?

    Thanks

    Skankin




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  2. #2
    Mike
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    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    Skankin wrote:
    > hi I am trying to upgrade my 8100 to the trio 600 or the hatachi 1000
    > which is a better phone?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Skankin
    >



    The Treo has MO-SMS and Macintosh support. The Hitachi has a bigger
    screen and costs $10 more a month for unlimited Vision. I suspect you'll
    find the Hitachi is more like carrying around a computer. The interface
    adopts much of the Windows desktop conventions. You have multi-tasking
    and a much more computer like paradigm. You need to see these phones in
    person too... There is a HUGE difference in size here. The Hitachi is a
    giant compared to the rest of the SprintPCS handset line-up, and is only
    a little smaller than my laptop.




  3. #3
    Kenneth P. Stox
    Guest

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    Skankin wrote:
    > hi I am trying to upgrade my 8100 to the trio 600 or the hatachi 1000
    > which is a better phone?
    >


    Hands down, the Treo 600. The Hitachi has a nasty habit of crashing at
    the most inconvenient times.



  4. #4
    TechGeek
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    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    "Kenneth P. Stox" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Skankin wrote:
    > > hi I am trying to upgrade my 8100 to the trio 600 or the hatachi 1000
    > > which is a better phone?
    > >

    >
    > Hands down, the Treo 600. The Hitachi has a nasty habit of crashing at
    > the most inconvenient times.


    Would you expect anything else from an OS from Microsoft?



  5. #5
    Cell merger
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    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    > The Treo has MO-SMS and Macintosh support.


    Full support from Palm for Macintosh OS X

    http://www.palmone.com/us/support/do...p_treo600.html



  6. #6
    Randy Crawford
    Guest

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    Skankin wrote:
    > hi I am trying to upgrade my 8100 to the trio 600 or the hatachi 1000
    > which is a better phone?


    I can't recommend the Treo600. The PCS digital data rate is PITIFUL.
    Bad dialup is faster. This is true no matter where I use it, or how
    strong the signal is. It's still very bad when I turn off the
    downloading of images. It is simply useless.

    On top of that, Sprint really is as awful as they're supposed to be.
    They don't even honor their rebates. I'm going to have to threaten a
    lawsuit just to get the rebate they promised. That or accept that I've
    spent $600 on a cell phone/PDA that has NO useful digital services.

    If at all possible, stay away from Sprint and the Treo, unless you
    simply want cell phone with a tiny PDA.

    Randy

    --
    Randy Crawford http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~rand rand AT rice DOT edu




  7. #7
    Bob Smith
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    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000


    "Randy Crawford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Skankin wrote:
    > > hi I am trying to upgrade my 8100 to the trio 600 or the hatachi 1000
    > > which is a better phone?

    >
    > I can't recommend the Treo600. The PCS digital data rate is PITIFUL.
    > Bad dialup is faster. This is true no matter where I use it, or how
    > strong the signal is. It's still very bad when I turn off the
    > downloading of images. It is simply useless.
    >
    > On top of that, Sprint really is as awful as they're supposed to be.
    > They don't even honor their rebates. I'm going to have to threaten a
    > lawsuit just to get the rebate they promised. That or accept that I've
    > spent $600 on a cell phone/PDA that has NO useful digital services.
    >
    > If at all possible, stay away from Sprint and the Treo, unless you
    > simply want cell phone with a tiny PDA.
    >
    > Randy
    >
    > --
    > Randy Crawford http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~rand rand AT rice DOT edu


    Randy, how was Vision during your first two weeks you had the phone in
    Houston? The same as it is now? If it is, why did you keep the phone?

    Bob





  8. #8
    Prasana
    Guest

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    Hi,
    I started using the Treo 600 a week ago and I find the Vision
    connection real slow. What are your experiences? - is this to be
    expected - my first foray into web experience on the palm - so I
    thought I would ask for
    1. what is normal
    2. is there a way to speed things up (I have switched off image
    dowloading)


    At best of times I seem to get slower than dialup.

    Thanks in advance,

    -prasana



  9. #9
    Robert M.
    Guest

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Prasana) wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I started using the Treo 600 a week ago and I find the Vision
    > connection real slow. What are your experiences? - is this to be
    > expected - my first foray into web experience on the palm - so I
    > thought I would ask for
    > 1. what is normal
    > 2. is there a way to speed things up (I have switched off image
    > dowloading)
    >
    >
    > At best of times I seem to get slower than dialup.


    Welcome to Vision.



  10. #10
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    Prasana wrote:

    > Hi,
    > I started using the Treo 600 a week ago and I find the Vision
    > connection real slow. What are your experiences? - is this to be
    > expected - my first foray into web experience on the palm - so I
    > thought I would ask for
    > 1. what is normal
    > 2. is there a way to speed things up (I have switched off image
    > dowloading)
    >
    >
    > At best of times I seem to get slower than dialup.
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    >
    > -prasana


    Wave a dead chicken over it.

    Wrap it in aluminum foil.

    Bring it a shrubbery.

    Seriously, your performance is going to be related to a handful of factors:
    Handset processor speed.
    Reception.
    Network saturation:
    Over the air
    In Sprint's network
    At Sprint's gateway to the net
    On the internet itself

    While Wapspeed.com may or may not be a useful tool, I tried it a few
    times in roughly the same place. Inside a building using the phone's
    built-in antenna, extended, I saw 86k. Outside in my car with a Wilson
    Magnet Mount antenna installed I saw 116k. Vision has always felt faster
    to me with an external antenna. YMMV.

    -mike




  11. #11

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000



    Robert M. wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Prasana) wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >> I started using the Treo 600 a week ago and I find the Vision
    >> connection real slow. What are your experiences? - is this to be
    >> expected - my first foray into web experience on the palm - so I
    >> thought I would ask for
    >> 1. what is normal
    >> 2. is there a way to speed things up (I have switched off image
    >> dowloading)
    >>
    >>
    >> At best of times I seem to get slower than dialup.

    >
    > Welcome to Vision.


    Not the way *I* experience it in San Diego. I can download from my
    website at a solid 90kbps (9 minutes to download a 4.5M newspaper in
    iSilo format).

    I tend to see rates between 50 and 100kbps at various websites, and when
    retrieving email.

    Can you quantify what you mean by "slow"? You should be seeing speeds
    that are better than dialup. If you're expecting broadband performance,
    you can forget it. You'll have to wait for the EV-DO or similar
    technologies to be deployed.




  12. #12

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000



    Randy Crawford wrote:

    > Skankin wrote:
    >> hi I am trying to upgrade my 8100 to the trio 600 or the hatachi 1000
    >> which is a better phone?

    >
    > I can't recommend the Treo600. The PCS digital data rate is PITIFUL.
    > Bad dialup is faster. This is true no matter where I use it, or how
    > strong the signal is. It's still very bad when I turn off the
    > downloading of images. It is simply useless.


    That simply does NOT jibe with my experience. The PCS data rate is
    pathetic compared to DSL or cable modem. I typically see a data rate
    two to three times typical dialup (which rarely goes above 33kbps). I
    regularly get 60-100kbps when downloading, viewing websites, or emailing.

    > On top of that, Sprint really is as awful as they're supposed to be.
    > They don't even honor their rebates. I'm going to have to threaten a
    > lawsuit just to get the rebate they promised. That or accept that I've
    > spent $600 on a cell phone/PDA that has NO useful digital services.


    Sprint PCS is probably no worse than any other company at rebate
    fulfillment. They stumble on occasion -- initially rejecting my Treo
    rebate for an obviously invalid reason. When I pointed out the problem
    to the rep on the phone (in Bangalore, no doubt), she quickly figured
    out what the problem was, and authorized the rebate. No lawsuit threats
    were required or warranted.

    > If at all possible, stay away from Sprint and the Treo, unless you
    > simply want cell phone with a tiny PDA.


    Like I said, this has absolutely NOT been my experience.

    And I'm not a SPCS stockholder or employee or anything else. I'm just
    extremely satisfied with SPCS and my Treo. (Okay, I'd rather have had
    the Kyocera 7135, but I've gotten over that!)




  13. #13
    John Richards
    Guest

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    "Prasana" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > At best of times I seem to get slower than dialup.


    You must be doing something wrong. I average 110 kbps on downloads
    with my Samsung VGA1000 tethered to my laptop.

    --

    John Richards





  14. #14
    Randy Crawford
    Guest

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    Bob Smith wrote:
    > "Randy Crawford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>Skankin wrote:
    >>
    >>>hi I am trying to upgrade my 8100 to the trio 600 or the hatachi 1000
    >>>which is a better phone?

    >>
    >>I can't recommend the Treo600. The PCS digital data rate is PITIFUL.

    ....
    >>
    >> Randy

    ....
    >
    > Randy, how was Vision during your first two weeks you had the phone in
    > Houston? The same as it is now? If it is, why did you keep the phone?
    >
    > Bob


    It's my first cell, and my only phone at the moment. I figured I'd get
    enough back in rebates to keep it, even without usable digital services,
    (which I hoped would improve with stronger signals. It didn't).

    Randy



  15. #15
    Randy Crawford
    Guest

    Re: trio600 vs hatachi 1000

    [email protected] wrote:
    > Randy Crawford wrote:

    ....
    >>
    >>I can't recommend the Treo600. The PCS digital data rate is PITIFUL.
    >>Bad dialup is faster. This is true no matter where I use it, or how
    >>strong the signal is. It's still very bad when I turn off the
    >>downloading of images. It is simply useless.

    >
    > That simply does NOT jibe with my experience. The PCS data rate is
    > pathetic compared to DSL or cable modem. I typically see a data rate
    > two to three times typical dialup (which rarely goes above 33kbps). I
    > regularly get 60-100kbps when downloading, viewing websites, or emailing.


    Near Houston? I've tried it all over Houston, and even in Austin, and
    was consistently unfavorably impressed.

    >
    > Sprint PCS is probably no worse than any other company at rebate
    > fulfillment. They stumble on occasion -- initially rejecting my Treo
    > rebate for an obviously invalid reason. When I pointed out the problem
    > to the rep on the phone (in Bangalore, no doubt), she quickly figured
    > out what the problem was, and authorized the rebate. No lawsuit threats
    > were required or warranted.


    I can only hope.

    >
    > Like I said, this has absolutely NOT been my experience.
    >
    > And I'm not a SPCS stockholder or employee or anything else. I'm just
    > extremely satisfied with SPCS and my Treo. (Okay, I'd rather have had
    > the Kyocera 7135, but I've gotten over that!)


    Do you use your Treo to web surf or just read email? I haven't used it
    for messaging or email at all. I intended to use it as a remote
    Googler, but with a web boot up time of about 30 seconds followed by
    really slow web download times (most of which are delays and timeouts),
    it just isn't useful to me except as a cell phone.

    In fact, it seems a lot like web surfing across phone dialup that's
    based on satellite. The initial contact time to a site isn't too bad,
    but even simple web page loads are interrupted repeatedly with long
    intervals of no activity. No good.

    Randy



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