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  1. #1
    Ziggy Tomcich
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    The Sanyo 8100 is clearly the worst cell phone i've ever owned. I'd
    prefer to have my old Motorola Startec or Nokia 2170 brick to this
    horrific beast. At least the sound quality on those older phones
    matched my home landline.

    The Camera is cute, but it's low resolution (non-VGA), makes it pretty
    worthless.

    The worst thing about this handset is that it is the user-hostile
    interface. The user interface and the sound quality on this phone
    sucks. It takes you at least 6-10 keystrokes and navigating menus and
    submenus to do anything; and many of the very simple things i want to
    do aren't even possible. Here are some examples:

    *want a simple one tone beep to tell you when you get a voicemail
    message? Forget it! All of the voicemail and txt msging alerts are no
    shorter then 10 seconds, and it won't shut up until you respond.
    *want to have your phone both vibrate and ring softly at the same
    time? Forget it! The vibrator is extremely weak and hard to feel.
    *ascending volume for your ringtones? nope
    *want to set an alarm clock? well you can set a "call alarm", after
    going into your calendar and setting a reminder to call yourself,
    which takes about 5 times as many keystrokes as withdrawing money from
    an ATM.
    *want to use a bodyglove with your phone while looking at the caller
    ID display to see who's calling? Forget it. As soon as you give the
    phone a slightest touch it answers the call, even if you don't open
    the phone fully.
    *want to use the back button to delete text messages after viewing
    their associated pics? Forget about it. It's going to take you no
    less then 12 keystrokes to delete your text messages after viewing
    them.

    It's not a difficult phone to use. It's just painfully inefficient.
    It takes way way way too many keystrokes to do basic functions- like
    navigating to through your call history, or assigning custom ringtones
    for different people.

    There are also a few bugs with this phone, which make it's
    voice-dialing option unreliable.

    I can rant for many pages about how horrible this phone is. All of
    the bells and whistles are just smoke and mirrors. Sanyo probably
    saved money by outsourcing the engineering of this phone to Zimbabwe
    or something. I find it highly doubtful that any engineer who
    developed this phone actually used this phone, or that Sanyo did any
    comsume Q&A for this product of any kind.

    Save yourself the misery. Never buy this phone. I'll never buy this
    phone, or any Sanyo ever again.
    -Ziggy



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  2. #2
    Robert M.
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    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Ziggy Tomcich) wrote:

    > The Sanyo 8100 is clearly the worst cell phone i've ever owned.


    It's now being superceded by the 8200.



  3. #3
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile


    "Ziggy Tomcich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > The Sanyo 8100 is clearly the worst cell phone i've ever owned. I'd
    > prefer to have my old Motorola Startec or Nokia 2170 brick to this
    > horrific beast. At least the sound quality on those older phones
    > matched my home landline.
    >
    > The Camera is cute, but it's low resolution (non-VGA), makes it pretty
    > worthless.


    <snipped>

    So, following your whole rant ... why did you buy it then?

    Bob





  4. #4
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile

    Ziggy Tomcich wrote:
    > The Sanyo 8100 is clearly the worst cell phone i've ever owned. I'd
    > prefer to have my old Motorola Startec or Nokia 2170 brick to this
    > horrific beast. At least the sound quality on those older phones
    > matched my home landline.
    >
    > The Camera is cute, but it's low resolution (non-VGA), makes it pretty
    > worthless.


    Somewhat agreed. The images are pretty good for viewing on a handset.
    Even the VGA cameras on the newer phones come up short. There is a
    megapixel camera tentatively slated for Q4 release, but it's a pda.
    (note that we don't always know what is coming far in advance, so there
    may be others) Even my 3.2 megapixel Canon has its limitations.

    > The worst thing about this handset is that it is the user-hostile
    > interface. The user interface and the sound quality on this phone
    > sucks. It takes you at least 6-10 keystrokes and navigating menus and
    > submenus to do anything; and many of the very simple things i want to
    > do aren't even possible. Here are some examples:
    >
    > *want a simple one tone beep to tell you when you get a voicemail
    > message? Forget it! All of the voicemail and txt msging alerts are no
    > shorter then 10 seconds, and it won't shut up until you respond.


    Download something different, and the problem will be fixed. Visit
    3gupload.com or myphonefiles.com. I think all phones should come with at
    least one high-pitched and non-polyphonic (monophonic?) ringtone. These
    are usually louder and are safely professional. I changed my ringer
    habits after a Missy Elliot ringtone I made fired off while I was
    meeting an elderly bank manager for a small business loan. (Musi ques /I
    sews on bews/I pues a twos on que zat/Pue zoo/My kizzer/Pous zigga ay z)

    > *want to have your phone both vibrate and ring softly at the same
    > time? Forget it! The vibrator is extremely weak and hard to feel.
    > *ascending volume for your ringtones? nope


    Maybe not a fix, but lower pitched and polyphonic ringtones tend to be
    much quieter, even at maximum volume.

    > *want to set an alarm clock? well you can set a "call alarm", after
    > going into your calendar and setting a reminder to call yourself,
    > which takes about 5 times as many keystrokes as withdrawing money from
    > an ATM.


    Yes, thankfully fixed on the 8200.

    > *want to use a bodyglove with your phone while looking at the caller
    > ID display to see who's calling? Forget it. As soon as you give the
    > phone a slightest touch it answers the call, even if you don't open
    > the phone fully.


    Try a hard plastic clip or slip case. You could also turn off the answer
    with flip option, so the phone answers on the send key instead.

    > *want to use the back button to delete text messages after viewing
    > their associated pics? Forget about it. It's going to take you no
    > less then 12 keystrokes to delete your text messages after viewing
    > them.
    >
    > It's not a difficult phone to use. It's just painfully inefficient.
    > It takes way way way too many keystrokes to do basic functions- like
    > navigating to through your call history, or assigning custom ringtones
    > for different people.
    >
    > There are also a few bugs with this phone, which make it's
    > voice-dialing option unreliable.


    Make sure your phone is running firmware 1.116SP. If it isn't, visit a
    Sprint Store for an upgrade.

    > I can rant for many pages about how horrible this phone is. All of
    > the bells and whistles are just smoke and mirrors. Sanyo probably
    > saved money by outsourcing the engineering of this phone to Zimbabwe
    > or something. I find it highly doubtful that any engineer who
    > developed this phone actually used this phone, or that Sanyo did any
    > comsume Q&A for this product of any kind.


    The UI is a little rough looking to me. The performance of the phone has
    generally been reported to be good. It sounds like you should take your
    handset to a Sprint Store for the upgrade, and ask them to check the
    phone to make sure its performing to its fullest.

    > Save yourself the misery. Never buy this phone. I'll never buy this
    > phone, or any Sanyo ever again.
    > -Ziggy





  5. #5
    Jim Catero
    Guest

    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile




    > Ziggy Tomcich wrote:
    >
    >> The Sanyo 8100 is clearly the worst cell phone i've ever owned.

    >



    Different strokes I guess.
    I love mine, beats the crap out of the A-500 I had before as far as
    reception, and I everything else.
    Some folks do some don't , Sorry you didn't.
    That said , I'm still gonna go for the 8200 as soon as I'm eligible for
    the upgrade program.

    Jim




  6. #6
    Robert M.
    Guest

    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > *want to use a bodyglove with your phone while looking at the caller
    > > ID display to see who's calling? Forget it. As soon as you give the
    > > phone a slightest touch it answers the call, even if you don't open
    > > the phone fully.


    On the RL2500 you can turn off "Auto Answer" so that doesn't happen. I
    woulda thought the 8100 has some setting hidden in there for that.



  7. #7
    Lou
    Guest

    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile

    On 16 Apr 2004 22:21:33 -0700, [email protected] (Ziggy Tomcich)
    wrote:

    >The Sanyo 8100 is clearly the worst cell phone i've ever owned.


    Oh well. The 8100 is the best phone out of the dozen or so I've owned.
    Not a single problem. The camera is very mediocre, but who cares. The
    phone performs great.



  8. #8
    JRW
    Guest

    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile

    Ziggy Tomcich wrote:

    > Save yourself the misery. Never buy this phone. I'll never buy this
    > phone, or any Sanyo ever again.
    > -Ziggy


    8100 is the second best phone I've ever had. Best was a 50 watt
    Motorola eleven channel VHF one.




  9. #9
    Ziggy
    Guest

    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile

    > So, following your whole rant ... why did you buy it then?
    >
    > Bob


    It was given to me by Sprint for free when my old LG phone started
    experiencing strange glitches. I was happy that Sprint gave me the
    phone for free. It seemed like a good phone at first.

    Most of my complaints are regarding the user-hostile interface, which
    you really can't experience until you've used your phone for a while.

    This phone is fine for people with lots of patience. I have none.
    When i want to redial a phone number, i don't want to have to go
    through 9 keystrokes to pull up a menu that has a phone number i
    dialed 3 outgoing calls ago. That totally defeats the purpose, as
    it's faster for me just to dial the phone number then it is to pull it
    up from the outgoing calls list. The same goes for the addressbook.
    ALL other phones i've had don't make you go through so many keystrokes
    to pull up a phone number.

    I also have no patience for phones that won't do what i want them to.
    When i press the 'back' button, i should go to the last menu i was in.
    That's NOT the case with the 8100.

    If you have patience and you don't mind staring at the screen while
    navigating a maze of menus to do anything, then the Sanyo phones are
    fine for you. If you're like me and you like technology to be a
    servant for you rather then the other way around, then avoid the Sanyo
    at all costs.

    -Ziggy Tomcich



  10. #10
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Sanyo 8100 is the worst phone ever. It's extremely user-hostile


    "Ziggy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > > So, following your whole rant ... why did you buy it then?
    > >
    > > Bob

    >
    > It was given to me by Sprint for free when my old LG phone started
    > experiencing strange glitches. I was happy that Sprint gave me the
    > phone for free. It seemed like a good phone at first.
    >
    > Most of my complaints are regarding the user-hostile interface, which
    > you really can't experience until you've used your phone for a while.
    >
    > This phone is fine for people with lots of patience. I have none.
    > When i want to redial a phone number, i don't want to have to go
    > through 9 keystrokes to pull up a menu that has a phone number i
    > dialed 3 outgoing calls ago. That totally defeats the purpose, as
    > it's faster for me just to dial the phone number then it is to pull it
    > up from the outgoing calls list. The same goes for the addressbook.
    > ALL other phones i've had don't make you go through so many keystrokes
    > to pull up a phone number.


    Well, I have a Sanyo 5300, and it took me about 5 seconds and 6 keystrokes
    to call the 3rd outgoing phone number dialed. As to the phone book, it would
    have taken me a lot longer as I have around 150 names in my phone book.

    >
    > I also have no patience for phones that won't do what i want them to.
    > When i press the 'back' button, i should go to the last menu i was in.
    > That's NOT the case with the 8100.


    I don't understand this, as the interfaces for the 8100 and 5300 are fairly
    similar. and when I hit the back button, it goes back to the prior screen.

    > If you have patience and you don't mind staring at the screen while
    > navigating a maze of menus to do anything, then the Sanyo phones are
    > fine for you. If you're like me and you like technology to be a
    > servant for you rather then the other way around, then avoid the Sanyo
    > at all costs.
    >
    > -Ziggy Tomcich


    I don't know whether this will help or not, but you might want to see
    whether your firmware is up to date. You can compare what your phone shows,
    to the details listed on this URL.
    http://www.sprintpcsinfo.com/modules...showpage&pid=9

    Bob





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