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  1. #1
    Robert M.
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    While SprintPCS just reported 2 days ago still being in the red;
    Nextel just reported its results. Nextel has the same "issues" with
    potential loss of customers from WLNP.

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...=/ap/20040422/
    ap_on_bi_ge/earns_nextel&sid=95573418

    It reported profits of $591 million for the last quarter.



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  2. #2
    Eric
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    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    [email protected] (Robert=A0M.) wrote:
    <<While SprintPCS just reported 2 days ago still being in the red;
    Nextel just reported its results. Nextel has the same "issues" with
    potential loss of customers from WLNP.
    It reported profits of $591 million for the last quarter.>>

    Bully for them. And how does this pertain to sprint users or newbies
    seeking information on how to use their service?




  3. #3
    TechGeek
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    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    [email protected] (Eric) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] (Robert M.) wrote:
    > <<While SprintPCS just reported 2 days ago still being in the red;
    > Nextel just reported its results. Nextel has the same "issues" with
    > potential loss of customers from WLNP.
    > It reported profits of $591 million for the last quarter.>>
    >
    > Bully for them. And how does this pertain to sprint users or newbies
    > seeking information on how to use their service?



    Becasue Sprint bailed them out a few years ago by paying to renew
    their walkie-talkie service patent.



  4. #4
    Robert M.
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    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

    > [email protected] (Eric) wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > > [email protected] (Robert M.) wrote:
    > > <<While SprintPCS just reported 2 days ago still being in the red;
    > > Nextel just reported its results. Nextel has the same "issues" with
    > > potential loss of customers from WLNP.
    > > It reported profits of $591 million for the last quarter.>>
    > >
    > > Bully for them. And how does this pertain to sprint users or newbies
    > > seeking information on how to use their service?

    >
    >
    > Becasue Sprint bailed them out a few years ago by paying to renew
    > their walkie-talkie service patent.


    And the URL for that is, or are you repeating SprintPCS company lore?

    You sure you're not confusing it with SprintPCS licensing using a Nextel
    patent for VPN with its PC Internet Access cards ??

    In any event it doesn't explain the outrageous bonus SprintPCS
    Executives got at a time when SprintPCS is still losing money and have
    an increased churn.



  5. #5
    O/Siris
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    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    In article <rmarkoff-FBC725.04511623042004
    @news04.east.earthlink.net>, [email protected] says...

    >=20
    > And the URL for that is, or are you repeating SprintPCS company lore?
    >=20
    > You sure you're not confusing it with SprintPCS licensing using a Nextel=

    =20
    > patent for VPN with its PC Internet Access cards ??
    >=20
    > In any event it doesn't explain the outrageous bonus SprintPCS=20
    > Executives got at a time when SprintPCS is still losing money and have=20
    > an increased churn.
    >=20


    Go look up GAAP sometime. Year over year, churn is *down.* So, too,=20
    is debt. We paid down over a billion in long term debt, and paid it=20
    early.

    It's not nearly the ill picture you try to paint, Phillie. But then,=20
    truth never has been a strong suit of yours. Nor, I suspect, even a=20
    goal.

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them



  6. #6
    Robert M.
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    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    In article <[email protected]>,
    O/Siris <0siris@sprîntpcs.com> wrote:

    > In article <rmarkoff-FBC725.04511623042004
    > @news04.east.earthlink.net>, [email protected] says...
    >
    > >
    > > And the URL for that is, or are you repeating SprintPCS company lore?
    > >
    > > You sure you're not confusing it with SprintPCS licensing using a Nextel
    > > patent for VPN with its PC Internet Access cards ??
    > >
    > > In any event it doesn't explain the outrageous bonus SprintPCS
    > > Executives got at a time when SprintPCS is still losing money and have
    > > an increased churn.
    > >

    >
    > Go look up GAAP sometime. Year over year, churn is *down.*


    But its still so high, SprintPCS is losing money. Its up from the last
    quarter/ and SprintPCS is refusing to tell other telling numbers:

    - Comparison of loses versus gains for WLNP

    - Cost of new customer acquisition for the 1st quarter.

    =====


    By the way, did you get a bonus of thirty times your salary,
    like Lauer did?



  7. #7
    Eric
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    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    [email protected] (Robert=A0M.) wrote:
    <<But its still so high, SprintPCS is losing money. Its up from the last
    quarter/ and SprintPCS is refusing to tell other telling numbers: >>

    Broken record.




  8. #8
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    >
    > But its still so high, SprintPCS is losing money.


    And if you were to look at Nextels' churn numbers from just three years ago,
    they would have been worse than Sprint's today. As would their quarterly
    loss, debt and customer satisfaction. Now ask yourself- how much longer has
    Nextel been doing this? See the pattern?

    >Its up from the last
    > quarter/ and SprintPCS is refusing to tell other telling numbers:
    >
    > - Comparison of loses versus gains for WLNP
    >
    > - Cost of new customer acquisition for the 1st quarter.


    Hmmmm- didn't see Nextel report WNLP numbers, either, and they buried the
    customer acquisition costs, because it was much higher than last year.


    >
    > =====
    >
    >
    > By the way, did you get a bonus of thirty times your salary,
    > like Lauer did?


    No, but the CEO for Nextel has, even in the lean years.





  9. #9
    O/Siris
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    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    In article <rmarkoff-17524F.05521523042004
    @news04.east.earthlink.net>, [email protected] says...
    > But its still so high, SprintPCS is losing money. Its up from the last=20
    > quarter/ and SprintPCS is refusing to tell other telling numbers:
    >=20
    > - Comparison of loses versus gains for WLNP
    >=20
    > - Cost of new customer acquisition for the 1st quarter.
    >=20


    No, but thank you for your typically inane response. Subscribership=20
    is up, a 0.2% uptick in churn from quarter to quarter is actually *in=20
    line* with predictions about WLNP (up or down, it would be minimal). =20
    What exactly would cost to acquire change about the picture, Phillie? =20
    Revenue is up, debt is down, that certainly sounds like a strong cash=20
    flow. What would cost per subscriber tell you that isn't already=20
    there?

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them



  10. #10
    Robert M.
    Guest

    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    In article <[email protected]>,
    O/Siris <[email protected]> wrote:

    > *in
    > line* with predictions about WLNP (up or down, it would be minimal)


    Baloney. SprintPCS has not released the WLNP numbers that support such a
    statement.

    It also has no released it customer acquisition cost, previously the
    highest in the industry.



  11. #11
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > O/Siris <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > *in
    > > line* with predictions about WLNP (up or down, it would be minimal)

    >
    > Baloney. SprintPCS has not released the WLNP numbers that support such a
    > statement.


    Neither did Nextel, who also reported a .2% increase in churn, and has been
    recognized as having the lowest churn i the industry for over a year now.

    >
    > It also has no released it customer acquisition cost, previously the
    > highest in the industry.


    Once again, this is not correct- keeping in line with the original post in
    this thread, Nextel has reported CPGA at least 10% higher than Sprint for a
    few quarters now.





  12. #12
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > O/Siris <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > *in
    > > line* with predictions about WLNP (up or down, it would be minimal)

    >
    > Baloney. SprintPCS has not released the WLNP numbers that support such a
    > statement.
    >
    > It also has no released it customer acquisition cost, previously the
    > highest in the industry.


    Once again, two false arguments by Phillipe ...

    Bob





  13. #13
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: Another Carrier Reports a profit.

    In article <rmarkoff-3FB383.05473524042004
    @news03.east.earthlink.net>, [email protected] says...
    > Baloney. SprintPCS has not released the WLNP numbers that support such a=

    =20
    > statement.


    Churn increased 0.2% in the last quarter over the previous. how bad=20
    can it be? Not much at all. And in line with what was predicted. A=20
    minimal impact.

    >=20
    > It also has no released it customer acquisition cost, previously the=20
    > highest in the industry.
    >=20


    You still haven't responded to why this matters in any way that isn't=20
    already reported.

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint PCS
    I *don't* speak for them



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