Major SprintPCS price Increase !!

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John Richards <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> That's a 'straw man' argument.
> I never stated that the new handset upgrade rebate policy represented an
> increase in the monthly cost of service. But, if I don't get a $150 rebate
> 18 months from the last handset upgrade, my wallet will be a lot lighter!
> Net result is the same, whether you call it a denial of rebate or choose to
> amortize it as an increase in the monthly price of service.
>

How is it strawman? It doesn't affect your current plan. It doesn't
affect the cost of your phone, you already own it. It doesn't affect
your contract in any way what-so-ever. In 18 months you are NOT
required to buy a new phone. It is your business if you want to. If
you do want to, you pay the price for the phone they are offering at
that time. It may include a rebate or it may not. No price has been
increased for you at this time or any time in the future unless YOU
DECIDE TO BUY A NEW PHONE ... and only then if you don't get a rebate
that you so desparately want will that make any difference.

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Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I disagree that it's a price increase.
>
> I also am glad to see that I can cancel after I get paid I am planning
> on using the free Vision trial when I set up my second line, but am not sure
> it's something I want to pay for long-term.
>

I just recieved a 17% discount from Sprint because of my employer, so
that is enough to keep me on Vision for 18 months

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"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You get a free 2 month trial when you upgrade to a vision divice
>> though the upgrade program, when you get your rebate check just
>> cancel Vision (all the rebate checks my stores have heard about have
>> come in 4-6 weeks). Not an extra penny spent unless you paid for any
>> downloads.
>>
>> Where's the increase?
>>
>> (And yes, that has been verified by a few store managers and at least
>> 6 sales reps)
>
> I disagree that it's a price increase.
>
> I also am glad to see that I can cancel after I get paid I am planning
> on using the free Vision trial when I set up my second line, but am not sure
> it's something I want to pay for long-term.

A Sprint employee (who is a frequent poster in this newsgroup) adamantly
maintains that if you cancel Vision after the free trial, you will be ineligible
for the next Vision handset upgrade rebate. I haven't seen this policy
in writing anywhere on Sprint's website.

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John Richards

"John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> "Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> You get a free 2 month trial when you upgrade to a vision divice
> >> though the upgrade program, when you get your rebate check just
> >> cancel Vision (all the rebate checks my stores have heard about have
> >> come in 4-6 weeks). Not an extra penny spent unless you paid for any
> >> downloads.
> >>
> >> Where's the increase?
> >>
> >> (And yes, that has been verified by a few store managers and at least
> >> 6 sales reps)
> >
> > I disagree that it's a price increase.
> >
> > I also am glad to see that I can cancel after I get paid I am
planning
> > on using the free Vision trial when I set up my second line, but am not
sure
> > it's something I want to pay for long-term.
>
> A Sprint employee (who is a frequent poster in this newsgroup) adamantly
> maintains that if you cancel Vision after the free trial, you will be
ineligible
> for the next Vision handset upgrade rebate. I haven't seen this policy
> in writing anywhere on Sprint's website.

Well, Rob may be mistaken, as you have confirmed, it doesn't say word one
about having to maintain Vision ... only that one has to sign up for it.

Bob

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snipped>

> Well, Rob may be mistaken, as you have confirmed, it doesn't say word one
> about having to maintain Vision ... only that one has to sign up for it.
>
> Bob

Just thought of one more possibility, and that SPCS might of changed their
marketing tact after Rob was trained and just decided all that was necessary
was to sign up for Vision, and not to keep it for 18 months.

Bob

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> You keep harping on this friggin future rebate. Will it be the same
> qualifications in 18 months or so? I don't know. I know that the prior
> rebate, which is still current by the way ...
> http://www.sprintrebates.com/track/s...ramPopup.shtml
> does not require that you have had 18 months of Vision service. I also know
> that SPCS mentioned in today's PR, there was no mention of having Vision for
> 18 prior months to qualify for a rebate.
>
> I've yet to see any concrete proof that any future rebate will demand having
> Vision on the account for 18 continual months, save for one poster here who
> mentioned it as to a Radio Shack purchase ... Have YOU seen anything to
> confirm that, outside of this newsgroup?
>
> Either show some proof of all this talk on the requirements of having to had
> continual Vision service for 18 months or get off of it. Plain and simple...

Bob, I'm just trying to get the facts straight. My next handset upgrade
eligibility date is coming up in 10 months, so excuse me if I'm getting a
little anxious.
O/Siris, a knowledgeable Sprint employee, has stated repeatedly in this
newsgroup that in order to qualify for the next Vision handset upgrade rebate,
one must have subscribed continuously to a Vision pack. So, don't challenge
*me*, I'm just repeating the policy that O/Siris posted.

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John Richards

Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just thought of one more possibility, and that SPCS might of changed their
> marketing tact after Rob was trained and just decided all that was necessary
> was to sign up for Vision, and not to keep it for 18 months.

Which would make *so much more* sense - the two month trial still gives
Sprint the opportunity to try to sell you Vision, but doesn't obligate you
to any long-term commitment and doesn't cost you extra money unless you want
to pay the extra money. A win-win situation.


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In article <[email protected]>,
"John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > TechGeek <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> You get a free 2 month trial when you upgrade to a vision divice
> >> though the upgrade program, when you get your rebate check just
> >> cancel Vision (all the rebate checks my stores have heard about have
> >> come in 4-6 weeks). Not an extra penny spent unless you paid for any
> >> downloads.
> >>
> >> Where's the increase?
> >>
> >> (And yes, that has been verified by a few store managers and at least
> >> 6 sales reps)
> >
> > I disagree that it's a price increase.
> >
> > I also am glad to see that I can cancel after I get paid I am planning
> > on using the free Vision trial when I set up my second line, but am not
> > sure
> > it's something I want to pay for long-term.
>
> A Sprint employee (who is a frequent poster in this newsgroup) adamantly
> maintains that if you cancel Vision after the free trial, you will be
> ineligible
> for the next Vision handset upgrade rebate. I haven't seen this policy
> in writing anywhere on Sprint's website.

Thats our midnight insulter - osiris.

"Eric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
(Bob Smith) wrote:
<<Well, Rob may be mistaken, as you have confirmed, it doesn't say word
one about having to maintain Vision ... only that one has to sign up for
it. >>

My paper rebate form from Radio Shack states otherwise. It not only
says that you have to add Vision to your plan, but you have to keep it
there for 18 months.

What's the date on that receipt/rebate? Like I said, it could be that SPCS
changed their mind on marketing the rebates since Rob was trained on it.

Bob

(Bob=A0Smith) wrote:
<<What's the date on that receipt/rebate? Like I said, it could be that
SPCS changed their mind on marketing the rebates since Rob was trained
on it. >>

I cannot find my rebate form at the moment, but I do remember it saying
that the offers were good until mid May. I'll post later tonight with
the exact details when I locate the form.

The form, by the way, was not exclusive to Radio Shack. It was an
official Sprint PCS rebate form that I also saw at Best Buy.

Eric

"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Then Osiris is wrong or lying? He said he was told multiple times one
> must maintain Vision or next time you will be ineligible for the rebate.
>
> IT IS A PRICE INCREASE !! ONE IS NOW REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN VISION 2
> $270 to qualify for a $150 rebate in 18 months?
> >

If you're so sure of that, I'd like to see a link from SprintPCS
stating that you have to keep it.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

> "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > Then Osiris is wrong or lying? He said he was told multiple times one
> > must maintain Vision or next time you will be ineligible for the rebate.
> >
> > IT IS A PRICE INCREASE !! ONE IS NOW REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN VISION 2
> > $270 to qualify for a $150 rebate in 18 months?
> > >
>
> If you're so sure of that, I'd like to see a link from SprintPCS
> stating that you have to keep it.

READ What I wrote.

Your co-conspirator osiris has posted it at least a dozen times here.




In article <[email protected]>,
O/Siris <[email protected]> wrote:

> But a Vision phone must now have a Vision pack for the
> full 18 months to qualify.


Why do IGNORE THAT FACT ????

In article <[email protected]>, "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > John, the rebate has been set up with some rules, as most rebates do. If
>you
>> > don't want to subscribe to Vision, that's fine. No one is making you
>> > subscribe to Vision.
>>
>> **Forcing** Vision subscriptions in order to have the customer qualify for
>> a handset rebate is a lousy policy, though. Either offer the rebate or
>don't.
>
>As I haven't seen this new rebate form, it's my understand that it only
>applies to the purchase of a new Vision capable phone.
>

Rep told me that as soon as I get the rebate, call and cancel Vision.


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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Dan W) wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, "Bob
> Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > John, the rebate has been set up with some rules, as most rebates do. If
> >you
> >> > don't want to subscribe to Vision, that's fine. No one is making you
> >> > subscribe to Vision.
> >>
> >> **Forcing** Vision subscriptions in order to have the customer qualify for
> >> a handset rebate is a lousy policy, though. Either offer the rebate or
> >don't.
> >
> >As I haven't seen this new rebate form, it's my understand that it only
> >applies to the purchase of a new Vision capable phone.
> >
>
> Rep told me that as soon as I get the rebate, call and cancel Vision.

Apparently the Vision requirement occurs when Vision is necessary to get
your plan above the $34.99 plan minimum requirement for a rebate.
Otherwise canceling will slide by.

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
>=20
> Everyone but you (even Bob Smith) agrees its a price increase if folks=20
> NOW have to have Vision for 18 month to be eligible for a rebate.
>=20

The same could be said about your credibility, but you don't seem to=20
pay attention to that. Why now?

I disagree that a voluntary program beyond the price plan to which=20
you subscribe can constitute a description of the price. Hence, no=20
price increase.

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O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them