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  1. #31
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: Veldhouse- disgrace of USENET


    "Eric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    <I hope so... I don't want to see Sprint fail, but I just think they are
    doing some really odd things right around the time when WLNP goes
    nationwide that is not good in trying to attract customers.>

    I guess I'm not seeing the problem here- the top 100 markets have had
    portability for months now, and we've seen a very negligable impact on the
    carriers (except AT&T). Why is everyone expecting the trend to be any
    different with this round? And correct me if I'm wrong- withthe top 100
    markets, over half of the country's population and well over half of the
    carriers' subscriber bases have already had the benefit of being able to
    port their numbers. A pretty good indicator of how trends will go this
    time. And Sprint is actually in a better position than they were for the
    first round- a lot of the CS issues that were evident in the second half of
    last year seem to have been corrected, for one. The regional carriers are
    the ones with the most to lose this time- the ability to port a number to a
    national carrier might be the driving force this time.

    <I still don't understand why Sprint does not push the 7pm nights as much
    anymore in their advertising... or make a big deal about unlimited
    mobile-to-mobile calling that they have had for quite awhile now. Sure,
    it costs $5/month, but it at least gets potential customers aware that
    Verizon is not the only one who offers this.>

    It could be that there market studies have indicated that this round of
    portability may rest not with features, but something else- coverage, price,
    phone selection, etc.. Take a look at everybody else- who's firing off
    killer deals to capture porting customers? Nobody is.







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  2. #32
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    R?bert M <[email protected]> wrote:
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    >> You made the initial statement- the proof is yours to provide.

    >
    > You deny it, come up with any authoritative URL other than a personal
    > denial.


    You are the one that stated that Sprint PCS is a WLNP loser. Everybody
    else here has simply said that you have not posted any proof. Now, be a
    man and back it up, or simply state it as your opinion.

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  3. #33
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
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    > And Sprint looks to want to be a WLNP loser when it goes nationwide
    > soon... by pushing F&F over F&C for personal consumers... taking away
    > free Vision for customers with plans $100 and over... taking away free
    > PCS2PCS in exchange for two-year agreements...


    Uhm .. this is your opinion, please indicate it as such. Sprint clearly
    thinks it will be a positive move or they wouldn't be spending so much
    time and money on F&F advertising, or don't you agree with that?

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  4. #34
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Phillip <[email protected]> wrote:
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    > Sprint just had a press release saying they are DOUBLING their
    > expenditures for advertising so they can attempt to explain F&F.


    Actually, they stated that they were increasing the advertising dollars
    so that consumers would become more "familiar" with it. It has nothing
    to do with explanation, as it is thoroughly explained already, it is
    just that many consumers are not aware of it, or familiar with it.

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  5. #35
    Eric
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    (Thomas=A0T.=A0Veldhouse) wrote:
    > Uhm .. this is your opinion, please indicate it
    > as such. Sprint clearly thinks it will be a
    > positive move or they wouldn't be spending
    > so much time and money on F&F advertising,
    > or don't you agree with that?


    Uhm, actually the stuff I posted was actually fact. Sprint is pushing
    F&F as consumer plans and F&C as business plans (according to O/Siris),
    they did take away free PCS2PCSfor 2-year agreements, and they did take
    away free Vision for F&C plans over $100. The only place I stated an
    opinion is where I said Sprint looks to be a loser when WLNP goes
    nationwide... and by them making these changes to their plans, it looks
    like I have a good point.

    I don't have a problem with F&F plans. What I do have a problem with is
    Sprint pushing F&F plans to consumers looking for low priced plans and
    making F&C plans taking a backseat.

    Eric




  6. #36
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > Uhm, actually the stuff I posted was actually fact. Sprint is pushing
    > F&F as consumer plans and F&C as business plans (according to O/Siris),
    > they did take away free PCS2PCSfor 2-year agreements, and they did take
    > away free Vision for F&C plans over $100. The only place I stated an
    > opinion is where I said Sprint looks to be a loser when WLNP goes
    > nationwide... and by them making these changes to their plans, it looks
    > like I have a good point.


    It is this quote which I called "your opinion"; "And Sprint looks to
    want to be a WLNP loser when it goes nationwide soon" Everything they
    took away, added, or modified, is for new plans, not existing plans.
    Nobody is affected except as a new customer or somebody taking a new
    plan.

    > I don't have a problem with F&F plans. What I do have a problem with is
    > Sprint pushing F&F plans to consumers looking for low priced plans and
    > making F&C plans taking a backseat.
    >


    Why do you have a problem with it? How does it hurt you? Sprint PCS is
    running a business and they make choices on what services they want to
    sell. It is their plan/service to push. I just don't see why everybody
    (alright, you and Phillip) make a big deal about this. If it turns out
    not to make any money, you can be sure that it won't be their mainstream
    plan for long. However, I am quite sure that they did do demographic
    studies and customer surveys to determine if this was a feasible plan;
    it is pretty unlikely they just dreamed it up and sold it withough doing
    the due dilligence required for this sort of thing.

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