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  1. #1
    Jim Seymour
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    The first-pass number-crunching tends to indicate we *might* save
    money, or at least break-even, dropping one of our land-lines and the
    wife's VZ wireless, and upgrading my current non-contract SPCS plan
    to an SPCS contract and adding a phone for her.

    (One unknown is the number of non-toll minutes we use on the land-
    line. Damn SBC/Ameritech gives us the number of calls, but not the
    number of minutes .)

    Now the big question is: Is there any way to know, in advance, if
    we'd be able to port our SBC/Ameritech land-line phone number to
    SPCS? The area code and first digit of the exchange for my current
    SPCS phone matches that of the land-line in question. We'd want to
    port that land-line number to what would be my wife's SPCS phone.

    Anybody here with any experience in porting wireline numbers to
    wireless carriers? Particularly SBC/Ameritech wireline numbers to
    SPCS?

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  2. #2
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: Wireless/Wireline Number Portability?

    Jim Seymour <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Now the big question is: Is there any way to know, in advance, if
    > we'd be able to port our SBC/Ameritech land-line phone number to
    > SPCS? The area code and first digit of the exchange for my current
    > SPCS phone matches that of the land-line in question. We'd want to
    > port that land-line number to what would be my wife's SPCS phone.


    http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/wlnp/wlnpPortHome.jsp

    > Anybody here with any experience in porting wireline numbers to
    > wireless carriers? Particularly SBC/Ameritech wireline numbers to
    > SPCS?


    Expect the wireline carrier, regardless of who it is, to drag their feet
    interminably.

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  3. #3
    Jim Seymour
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    Re: Wireless/Wireline Number Portability?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> writes:
    > Jim Seymour <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Now the big question is: Is there any way to know, in advance, if
    >> we'd be able to port our SBC/Ameritech land-line phone number to
    >> SPCS? The area code and first digit of the exchange for my current
    >> SPCS phone matches that of the land-line in question. We'd want to
    >> port that land-line number to what would be my wife's SPCS phone.

    >
    > http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/wlnp/wlnpPortHome.jsp


    Thanks for the URL, Steve. It turns out my home wireline number
    *can* be ported!

    >
    >> Anybody here with any experience in porting wireline numbers to
    >> wireless carriers? Particularly SBC/Ameritech wireline numbers to
    >> SPCS?

    >
    > Expect the wireline carrier, regardless of who it is, to drag their feet
    > interminably.


    Yeah, well, of course. I'm just wondering *how* bad it's likely to
    be.

    /me shakes head

    You know: Once-upon-a-time there was this telephone company called
    "Michigan Bell Telephone." I loved Michigan Bell Telephone. I once
    had *three* *personal* phone lines with them. I would never have
    dreamed of changing my primary phone service away from Michigan Bell
    Telephone. In the days of Michigan Bell Telephone, any telemarketer
    calling to suggest such a thing would have received a laugh, a "no
    thanks," and a hangup.

    This is what SBC, nee Ameritech, has squandered. They could have had
    *all* my business: wireline, wireless and broadband. All they had to
    do was do them as well as good ol' Michigan Bell Telephone used to do
    wireline.

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  4. #4
    O/Siris
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    Re: Wireless/Wireline Number Portability?

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...
    > The first-pass number-crunching tends to indicate we *might* save
    > money, or at least break-even, dropping one of our land-lines and the
    > wife's VZ wireless, and upgrading my current non-contract SPCS plan
    > to an SPCS contract and adding a phone for her.


    That's certainly possible, especially if you add in unlimited PCS2PCS
    calling. On a multi-line account like you'd be, that's available at no
    charge on a 2-year Advantage Agreement. At that point, all your minutes
    would only apply to other calls.

    >
    > (One unknown is the number of non-toll minutes we use on the land-
    > line. Damn SBC/Ameritech gives us the number of calls, but not the
    > number of minutes .)


    I hear you. And with the recent court decision making it next to
    impossible to compete with SBC on a local level, it's not likely to get
    any better.

    >
    > Now the big question is: Is there any way to know, in advance, if
    > we'd be able to port our SBC/Ameritech land-line phone number to
    > SPCS? The area code and first digit of the exchange for my current
    > SPCS phone matches that of the land-line in question. We'd want to
    > port that land-line number to what would be my wife's SPCS phone.


    Here's what you can do. Call once and pretend you're going to port the
    landline to *your* phone. Ask them if your existing SPCS number is in
    the same area as the landline number, a region called a CSA. That'll
    help you determine what you'll need to do for the additional line. A
    rep with a decent clue about what's needed should be more than happy to
    discuss this. If you get a "warm fuzzy? about the rep, you can even
    make him or her happy by ordering the second line from them.

    Now, with the knowledge of what you'll need to do with the 2nd line,
    whether you choose to go into a store or to order over the phone, you
    can simply have the new line on a number of its own for a few days just
    to make sure it meets her needs. Once you?re sure of that, you can call
    in or go to a SPCS store to have the landline number ported over.

    As an employee, I was trained to give you an expectation of 30 days to
    port over a landline number. So your wife will keep the SPCS number she
    has in the interim. When the SPCS number stops working, that means the
    port went through, and then call in (preferably on another phone) to
    have her phone programmed with the ported number.

    Now, I typed that out fairly quickly. I hope I?m clear enough that you
    see what I?m saying. Let me know if you need anything more. Including
    more clarification.

    >
    > Anybody here with any experience in porting wireline numbers to
    > wireless carriers? Particularly SBC/Ameritech wireline numbers to
    > SPCS?
    >
    >


    The fastest I saw a number go through when I worked for SPCS was 5
    business days. Three others were all closer to 30 days.

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  5. #5
    Jim Seymour
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    Re: Wireless/Wireline Number Portability?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    O/Siris <[email protected]ntpcs.cm> writes:
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > says...
    >> The first-pass number-crunching tends to indicate we *might* save
    >> money, or at least break-even, dropping one of our land-lines and the
    >> wife's VZ wireless, and upgrading my current non-contract SPCS plan
    >> to an SPCS contract and adding a phone for her.

    >
    > That's certainly possible, especially if you add in unlimited PCS2PCS
    > calling. On a multi-line account like you'd be, that's available at no
    > charge on a 2-year Advantage Agreement. At that point, all your minutes
    > would only apply to other calls.


    The number-crunching is complete. Unfortunately: No matter which way
    I rig it, I can't get SPCS to look any better than break-even, and
    that's being optimistic. Given how little my wife uses her current VZ
    cellphone, I can't even make getting us both on SPCS work,
    numbers-wise.

    This would be the third time I've tried to make going "all SPCS all
    the time" work--or at least get my wife on SPCS with me. The two
    previous attempts didn't even take doing-up a spread sheet. This
    time took work. So it's getting closer . A couple-hundred or so
    more anytime minutes, a lower per-minute rate when you go over, or a
    frequently-called friend being on SPCS probably would've done the
    trick.

    >

    [snip]
    >>
    >> Now the big question is: Is there any way to know, in advance, if
    >> we'd be able to port our SBC/Ameritech land-line phone number to
    >> SPCS?

    [snip]
    >
    > Here's what you can do.

    [snip]

    Steve Sobol pointed me to an SPCS web page that told me what I
    needed to know. But thanks.

    >
    >>
    >> Anybody here with any experience in porting wireline numbers to
    >> wireless carriers? Particularly SBC/Ameritech wireline numbers to
    >> SPCS?
    >>
    >>

    >
    > The fastest I saw a number go through when I worked for SPCS was 5
    > business days. Three others were all closer to 30 days.


    *ick* I can only hope that next time I run this exercise (I do it
    about once every two years or so), the regulatory agencies will have
    done something about that porting time. In any event: It wouldn't
    have been a show-stopper, had the numbers worked out.

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