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  1. #16
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    [email protected] wrote:

    > I will be paying less per month to Cingular for more minutes and no
    > roaming than I paid to Sprint.


    OK, I understand now. Yes, Cingular is typically somewhat less expensive than
    Sprint.

    > In the Cingular plans, even on the local plans, in your home area, you
    > do not pay roaming.


    Same with the local plans from the other carriers... I was just curious about
    Cingular because I don't use them and therefore may not be completely
    up-to-date on what their calling plans are.


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  2. #17

    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:57:13 -0700, Steve Sobol <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >> In the Cingular plans, even on the local plans, in your home area, you
    >> do not pay roaming.

    >
    >Same with the local plans from the other carriers... I was just curious about
    >Cingular because I don't use them and therefore may not be completely
    >up-to-date on what their calling plans are.


    I think they have revamped some recently, there were some differences
    from earlier this year when I started researching.

    All I know is that I now have a service that appears to work pretty
    much everywhere I've been in the last two days, even when the Sprint
    phone got no signal. Granted I haven't been to all the places I
    usually go, but the travel starts soon.


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  3. #18
    John Richards
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Cingular offers free roaming, vs. having to pay extra for it with
    > Sprint.


    The reason Cingular can afford to offer free roaming is because there
    is little to roam to. Who else but AT&T is Cingular's roaming partner?
    Unlike Sprint, Cingular's phones won't do the old analog AMPS, so
    if you're out in the boonies with a Cingular phone, you're SOL.

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  4. #19
    John Navas
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Wed, 06 Oct 2004
    18:01:11 GMT, "John Richards" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    ><[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...


    >> Cingular offers free roaming, vs. having to pay extra for it with
    >> Sprint.


    Not entirely. For example, I have a Cingular Nation Plan, and I'm not allowed
    to roam on ATTWS here in California, free or fee.

    >The reason Cingular can afford to offer free roaming is because there
    >is little to roam to. Who else but AT&T is Cingular's roaming partner?


    T-Mobile, and quite a few smaller carriers.

    >Unlike Sprint, Cingular's phones won't do the old analog AMPS, so
    >if you're out in the boonies with a Cingular phone, you're SOL.


    Depends on the boonies -- I've gotten GSM coverage in surprising places (e.g.,
    when sailing well offshore).

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  5. #20
    Chris Russell
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    When I had the Cingular GAIT Nation plan I roamed on ATTWS, T-Mobile,
    USCellular (USA 260, 340 350, 370,etc.), Einstein PCS, Iowa Wireless and a
    number of others I couldn't get a name for-all on GSM/TDMA digital. If you
    have to go off the beaten path like I do in my 18 wheeler, Cingular GSM
    plans will be useless to you. I get better coverage with my SPCS Free &
    Clear plan w/$5 America option.

    Chris

    "John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in
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    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Cingular offers free roaming, vs. having to pay extra for it with
    >> Sprint.

    >
    > The reason Cingular can afford to offer free roaming is because there
    > is little to roam to. Who else but AT&T is Cingular's roaming partner?
    > Unlike Sprint, Cingular's phones won't do the old analog AMPS, so
    > if you're out in the boonies with a Cingular phone, you're SOL.
    >
    > --
    > John Richards






  6. #21
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

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    >>Unlike Sprint, Cingular's phones won't do the old analog AMPS, so
    >>if you're out in the boonies with a Cingular phone, you're SOL.

    >
    > Depends on the boonies -- I've gotten GSM coverage in surprising places (e.g.,
    > when sailing well offshore).
    >


    Ironically - Minnesota is well covered with GSM since the 850MHz
    migration. You can do pretty well with a GSM dual-band phone.

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  7. #22
    Aravind
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    "John R. Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
    > The following website shows network information for 47 Indian GSM
    > networks.
    > http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou in.shtml
    > Thirteen networks run GSM1800, while two others run dual GSM900/1800.
    > All the remainder in India run only GSM900.
    > Verify that your phone will respond to GSM900 and/or GSM1800
    > before trying to swap in an Indian SIM card.
    > India appears to be GSM-compatible with Europe, but as Bob pointed out,
    > that does not guarantee your U.S. phone will work there.
    > ---JRC---


    Thanks, John, for the great info and the website. I guess the V400
    would cover all these freqs if I went with cingular. Thanks again.

    Aravind



  8. #23
    Aravind
    Guest

    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > > I will be paying less per month to Cingular for more minutes and no
    > > roaming than I paid to Sprint.

    >


    I do agree, I think. However, addons like adding roaming to a
    two-phone shared plan costs $14/mo, it is kind of expensive compared
    to Sprint ($5?).

    Aravind



  9. #24
    Aravind
    Guest

    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    "Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > When I had the Cingular GAIT Nation plan I roamed on ATTWS, T-Mobile,
    > USCellular (USA 260, 340 350, 370,etc.), Einstein PCS, Iowa Wireless and a
    > number of others I couldn't get a name for-all on GSM/TDMA digital. If you
    > have to go off the beaten path like I do in my 18 wheeler, Cingular GSM
    > plans will be useless to you. I get better coverage with my SPCS Free &
    > Clear plan w/$5 America option.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    >


    It appears that the GAIT plan is not offered by cingular anymore
    (probably it would cost a lot more). Wouldn't it be great if
    agreements were in place where all cell phones work in everyone's
    network!

    Aravind



  10. #25
    Aravind
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    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    Frank Harris <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Aravind - I don't know about your (potential) Cingular GSM phone, but
    > some GSM phones sold by US providers are "SIM-locked" to that provider,
    > so only that provider's SIM will work in their phones. A SIM bought in
    > India wouldn't work with such a phone. Some US providers (T-Mobile,
    > I've heard) will give you the code to unlock your phone after you've had
    > it for a certain number of months.
    >



    Thanks, Frank. I am planning on the Motorola V400 and apparently it
    comes unlocked from Cingular and since it works on both 1800/900
    freqs, I guess it may be the right one for me.

    Aravind



  11. #26
    Aravind
    Guest

    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

    [email protected] (Steve W) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > > Well, I called Sprint and apparently they tested signal strength at a
    > > location outside my apartment and they reported back saying that it
    > > was good. In other words, I guess if I change my phone things would be
    > > better.

    >
    > I'd suggest a Sanyo. I've had the 4500, 4700, 4900, and now 4920.
    > There does seem to be a difference between phones even between current
    > phones. I'd suggest the 4920 as I've had excellent signal strength
    > with it. Good luck.
    >
    > Steve


    Thanks, Steve. Well, what I did was that I bought myself two Sanyo
    PM-8200 phones (they look great and are very compact with great
    display and intuitive user-interface - unlike the Motorola V400)
    yesterday to replace my old LG TP-5250 and got a new two year
    contract. They worked better than the older phones but still the
    signal was low and worked in less than half the areas in my small 2
    bedroom apt. That was unfortunate, I returned the phones and cancelled
    the new contract the same day (they have a 14 day return policy). Plan
    on getting the V400 and setting up a contract with Cingular. The
    cingular rep gave me a demo phone that works everywhere inside the
    house, even in closed spaces like inside the bathroom and the signal
    is very good. I think the issue is coverage. I wish Sprint sets up
    provisions to provide demo phones like Cingular does, would save
    potential customers a lot of trouble, I guess.

    Thanks again.

    Aravind



  12. #27
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?


    "Aravind" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > [email protected] (Steve W) wrote in message

    news:<[email protected]>...
    > > > Well, I called Sprint and apparently they tested signal strength at a
    > > > location outside my apartment and they reported back saying that it
    > > > was good. In other words, I guess if I change my phone things would be
    > > > better.

    > >
    > > I'd suggest a Sanyo. I've had the 4500, 4700, 4900, and now 4920.
    > > There does seem to be a difference between phones even between current
    > > phones. I'd suggest the 4920 as I've had excellent signal strength
    > > with it. Good luck.
    > >
    > > Steve

    >
    > Thanks, Steve. Well, what I did was that I bought myself two Sanyo
    > PM-8200 phones (they look great and are very compact with great
    > display and intuitive user-interface - unlike the Motorola V400)
    > yesterday to replace my old LG TP-5250 and got a new two year
    > contract. They worked better than the older phones but still the
    > signal was low and worked in less than half the areas in my small 2
    > bedroom apt. That was unfortunate, I returned the phones and cancelled
    > the new contract the same day (they have a 14 day return policy). Plan
    > on getting the V400 and setting up a contract with Cingular. The
    > cingular rep gave me a demo phone that works everywhere inside the
    > house, even in closed spaces like inside the bathroom and the signal
    > is very good. I think the issue is coverage. I wish Sprint sets up
    > provisions to provide demo phones like Cingular does, would save
    > potential customers a lot of trouble, I guess.
    >
    > Thanks again.
    >
    > Aravind


    Aravind, I hope you didn't cancel your service with SPCS before moving to
    Cingular. I say that, as you will not be able to port over your numbers, if
    you did cancel your SPCS account. The step to take is to sign up with
    Cingular, then tell Cingular to port your numbers.

    Bob





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